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Polish Catholic Church in Halloween warning

Guy Incognito said:
Folk traditions are not the same as Catholic Holy Days. Halloween is the day before All Saints and Christmas is the Feast of the Nativity. Incidental pagan traditions are just that, incidental.
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Any quite a many of these Catholic Holy Days are from incidental folk traditions.
 
SMTA said:
Catholic Church tries again to run the world, but fails.
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Not sure how an archbishop expressing an opinion is trying to run the world. Millions of people--and not just Christians, much less Catholics--happen to agree with the archbishop.

Whether you do, he and anybody else has the right to express that opinion. Even if it's one you dislike and regard as unnecessarily rude, ignorant, and inflammatory, as I do your post.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
All the current secular practices of Halloween were part of the non secular practices of Samhain.
Which was later goggled up by the RCC, in an attempt to remove/reduce it's effect.

It's the part of the same reason Christmas has co opted so many pagan traditions.
They wanted more members and they wanted to get rid of older religions.
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It wasn't the RCC as we know it today, but merely a continuation of the Roman state religion/s policy of subsuming the local pagan Gods/practices into their existing state religion/s as a part of their conquest. Bits and pieces of many local pagan rites and rituals were adopted to make the "Romanisation" of the dominated culture more acceptable.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It wasn't the RCC as we know it today, but merely a continuation of the Roman state religion/s policy of subsuming the local pagan Gods/practices into their existing state religion/s as a part of their conquest. Bits and pieces of many local pagan rites and rituals were adopted to make the "Romanisation" of the dominated culture more acceptable.
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That's more or less what I was getting at.
But you're absolutely right.
 
I agree, had Christianity not hitched a ride on the expanding empire, then Sol Invictus might still be the go-to God.
 
Fiddytree said:
Aside from clothing manufacturers, media representatives, local tradition, and neo-paganists themselves?
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Neopaganists are promoting Satan now are they?

Fiddytree said:
I mean, I'm certainly not concerned about the holiday itself, but it's a bit hard to deny the long-standing tradition of running around as a demon with your little bucket trying to get candy, watching Dracula movies, and so on.
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I didn't say that there is no one who wears a devil costume.
I said that churches are the ones who do the most to promote the association of Halloween with the Devil.

Check T3h Google

Devils are très passé

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And none of that even gets into the discussion about whether or not dressing up as a devil is the same as diabolism or actually doing anything of the sort that is often alleged by various churches.
 
Bishops and cardinals have wide latitude to make statements about any social or religious issue that may or may not agree with the stances of other bishops or cardinals, or even Rome. As long as they are not heretical, anything goes. This archbishop was making a statement to the members of his own diocese, which is not binding. He did not forbid trick or treating, only warned the faithful about an issue he felt strongly about. Don't see why anyone feels a need to use this as anti-Catholic fodder (but I understand people will).
 
ime the Catholics I have known have all been relatively reasonable people. It's members of some of the other denominations who're really bat****.
 
Guy Incognito said:
I see a lot of people in this thread baselessly accusing the Church, yet, somehow I don't actually see anything in OP about the Catholic Church trying to actually control anything.

All I see is an Archbishop speaking some unpopular yet necessary truths about how Halloween is a near occasion to sin. Nothing about control, just a fair warning to those who choose to avoid sin.

So this thread is, basically, anti-Catholic bigots spewing anti-Catholic BS as usual.
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It's a target rich environment.
 
KevinKohler said:
That mark being young boys?
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Nope, that's slightly to the left of the mark but closer than calling a Catholic vigil a holiday based on pagan traditions.
 
Monserrat said:
Nope, that's slightly to the left of the mark but closer than calling a Catholic vigil a holiday based on pagan traditions.
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No matter...I view Catholicism to be a giant joke anyway.
 
For the record, I think the link up of our tags are interesting....
 
KevinKohler said:
For the record, I think the link up of our tags are interesting....
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No idea what you're talking about here though so I'm just going to smile and nod, works 92.7% of the time :lol:
 
Monserrat said:
No idea what you're talking about here though so I'm just going to smile and nod, works 92.7% of the time :lol:
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"I believe half of the things I say and say half of the things I believe."

"Half full or half empty doesn't matter. What matters is, you've only got half a glass...so what are you going to do about it?"


That's all, nothing big. Just...interesting.
 
KevinKohler said:
"I believe half of the things I say and say half of the things I believe."

"Half full or half empty doesn't matter. What matters is, you've only got half a glass...so what are you going to do about it?"


That's all, nothing big. Just...interesting.
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Oh... tag=signature I get it now :cool:
 
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