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CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

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Also, the photos of the Libyans "dragging the Ambassador's body thru the streets" have been deliberately mis interpreted by the Obama haters. Never, ever believe a word that issues from the orifices of Rush Limbaugh: Libyans didn’t aid ambassador
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If the "Libyans" were dragging the Ambassador's body thru the streets, that would suggest that it was a mob action, perhaps a response to the anti-Muslim trailer. This would actually lend creedance to Obama and his administration's lies. The fact that they were carrying ("none say anything that shows ill will") the Ambassador in an effort to save him again proves that this was not a response to the film as the administration suggested but rather a terrorist act by the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sariah. Thanks for clarifying that.
 
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Doesn't anyone find it odd that the article that the OP linked doesn't name its sources?
 
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Doesn't anyone find it odd that the article that the OP linked doesn't name its sources?
Harry Reid doesn't have to name his sources, so why would they question the sources here?
 
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Doesn't anyone find it odd that the article that the OP linked doesn't name its sources?

This whole thing reminds me of the Zimmerman case. There's a lot of information, but it's somewhat difficult to ascertain the validity of it all.

Furthermore, one side is clearly using this for political purposes, similar to the Zimmerman case. As in that case and in this, best to actually stand back and get the proper information before jumping to conclusions.
 
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Harry Reid doesn't have to name his sources, so why would they question the sources here?

Just because one guy doesn't identify his sources doesn't mean it's OK for everyone else to do it.
 
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Harry Reid doesn't have to name his sources, so why would they question the sources here?

Literally everyone demanded that Reid release his sources, I don't know what universe you were living in the time where you didn't hear it.
 
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If the "Libyans" were dragging the Ambassador's body thru the streets, that would suggest that it was a mob action, perhaps a response to the anti-Muslim trailer. This would actually lend creedance to Obama and his administration's lies. The fact that they were carrying ("none say anything that shows ill will") the Ambassador in an effort to save him again proves that this was not a response to the film as the administration suggested but rather a terrorist act by the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sariah. Thanks for clarifying that.


A fine example of absolutist thinking, that is all too common among True Believers.


Answer me this: Are all residents of Nevada Republicans?


There are Libyans who like the US and there are Libyans who hate the US and what it stands for. To say that because one group of Libyans made an effort to rescue the Ambassador does not in any way negate the possibility that some residents of Benghazi were angry enough about the anti-Prophet video to have participated in the attack on the Consulate. That's the same as blaming all the residents of your town when some gang bangers in your town do a drive-by or saying that all of the residents were heroes when a few people helped rescue someone.
 
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A fine example of absolutist thinking, that is all too common among True Believers.


Answer me this: Are all residents of Nevada Republicans?


There are Libyans who like the US and there are Libyans who hate the US and what it stands for. To say that because one group of Libyans made an effort to rescue the Ambassador does not in any way negate the possibility that some residents of Benghazi were angry enough about the anti-Prophet video to have participated in the attack on the Consulate. That's the same as blaming all the residents of your town when some gang bangers in your town do a drive-by or saying that all of the residents were heroes when a few people helped rescue someone.

"Definition of absolutism (n)
bing.com · Bing Dictionary
ab·so·lut·ism 1.political system: a political system in which the power of a ruler is unchecked and absolute
2.theory of objective values: a philosophical theory in which values such as truth or morality are absolute and not conditional upon human perception
3.something absolute: a standard, principle, or theory that is absolute
Synonyms: totalitarianism, despotism, dictatorship, tyranny, autocracy, authoritarianism."

Somerville: "...deliberately mis interpreted by the Obama haters. Never, ever believe a word that issues from the orifices..."

I didn't realize that the Socialist defenders of the Chosen One had absolute claim to "absolutism." Nonetheless, there is increasingly more evidence that this was a terrorist attack, having little or nothing to do with the movie trailers. The evidence mounts that the Administration knew about it and refused needed assistance. The Administration continues to lie about it, while the Chosen One continues to sidestep direct questions. Eventually the whole truth will come out. Hopefully before the Chosen One has attained "a political system in which the power of a ruler is unchecked and absolute."
 
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Answer me this: Are all residents of Nevada Republicans?

The answer is no. According to the year 2,000 and year 2010 census', over 200,000 Mexicans moved to Nevada in that ten year period. Many infested Las Vegas, which is why Obama keeps going there to campaign, but a sizable number also came to Northern Nevada, resulting in the highest unemployment rate and number of foreclosures in the nation. Major factors influencing this overwhelming number were the Arizona immigration laws and the completion of the Mexican colonization of California.

Nevada's schools are gone, neighborhoods are gone, hospitals are closing their emergency rooms, crime is beyond anything the police can deal with and any state sponsored safety nets for Americans have been given to the endless needs of the Mexicans. Harry Reid no longer even pretends to represent Americans in Nevada, he represents the Mexicans because they vote overwhelmingly for liberals who give them things that the liberals steal from the Americans. One looks out the window and sees pregnant Mexican girls pushing baby carriages with no husband in sight.
 
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The answer is no. According to the year 2,000 and year 2010 census', over 200,000 Mexicans moved to Nevada in that ten year period. Many infested Las Vegas, which is why Obama keeps going there to campaign, but a sizable number also came to Northern Nevada, resulting in the highest unemployment rate and number of foreclosures in the nation. Major factors influencing this overwhelming number were the Arizona immigration laws and the completion of the Mexican colonization of California.

Nevada's schools are gone, neighborhoods are gone, hospitals are closing their emergency rooms, crime is beyond anything the police can deal with and any state sponsored safety nets for Americans have been given to the endless needs of the Mexicans. Harry Reid no longer even pretends to represent Americans in Nevada, he represents the Mexicans because they vote overwhelmingly for liberals who give them things that the liberals steal from the Americans. One looks out the window and sees pregnant Mexican girls pushing baby carriages with no husband in sight.


Nothing more to say in reply to this but - . . . r****t


Nice to read that some who call themselves Americans are such kind and thoughtful persons.

The crime rate in Nevada while high has decreased every year since 2006

Foreclosure rate in Sept of this year put Nevada in 5th or 6th place among the states with high rates - not first

Nevada does have the highest unemployment rate in the nation as of Sept 2012, although it is down from the peak in June of 2010


It's good to know that the "Mexicans" are to blame for all of America's economic woes. I had not realised that there were people gifted with the ability to distinguish illegal immigrants from American citizens simply by looking out their windows - good to know we have such talented people here.
 
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WASHINGTON -- CIA security officers went to the aid of State Department staff less than 25 minutes after they got the first call for help during the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday, as they laid out a detailed timeline of the CIA's immediate response to the attack from its annex less than a mile from the diplomatic mission.

The timeline was offered just days before the presidential election in a clear effort to refute recent news reports that said the CIA told its personnel to "stand down" rather than go to the consulate to help repel the attackers. Fox News reported that when CIA officers at the annex called higher-ups to tell them the consulate was under fire, they were twice told to "stand down." The CIA publicly denied the report.

The intelligence officials told reporters Thursday that when the CIA annex received a call about the assault, about half a dozen members of a CIA security team tried to get heavy weapons and other assistance from the Libyans. But when the Libyans failed to respond, the security team, which routinely carries small arms, went ahead with the rescue attempt. The officials said that at no point was the team told to wait.

Instead, they said the often outmanned and outgunned team members made all the key decisions on the ground, with no second-guessing from senior officials monitoring the situation from afar.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to provide intelligence information publicly.....snip~

US: CIA rushed to save diplomats as Libya attack was under way - Libya consulate attacked - Stripes
By LOLITA C. BALDOR The Associated Press Published: November 1, 2012<<<<< More here, Way More!

"Finally, early this morning at 0643, September 11, 2012, one of our diligent guards made a troubling report," said one of the documents quoted in the story and addressed to Mohamed Obeidi, the head of the Libyan Ministry of Foreign Affairs office in Benghazi. "Near our main gate, a member of the police force was seen in the upper level of a building across from our compound. It is reported that this person was photographing the inside of the U.S. special mission and furthermore that this person was part of the police unit sent to protect the mission. The police car stationed where this event occurred was number 322.".....snip~

Looks like we may have to even consider a faction of the Libyan Government being explicit in the attack. Message to Team Obama. Benghazi-Gate isn't going to get pushed to the side.

Moreover it isn't just Fox news. If any has been listening to the Radio lately. One will note that Radio Jocks on both sides of the Aisle are not letting this go. Comments all raging over the MSM's incompetance and bias to report on this. I am glad they will not let it go.....myself I even called in to a station and got thru on the Air. My comment was over the Radio jocks taking it to MSM personalities Full Tilt. Especially all those leaning to the left and from MSDNC. To essentially start calling out the TV personalities such as Chris Matthews and the Raw Kool Aid eater Rachael Maddows. Then to go after ABC and CNN's Personalities that keep avoiding and denying all that is coming out about this issue.

During the 2nd Debate.....Obama says he is Offended by such thoughts. Well Mr President, We are Offended that you dropped the ball on the Annivesary of 911.....

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Now Let me Remind You Why!
 
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FACEBOOK CENSORS NAVY SEALS TO PROTECT OBAMA ON BENGHAZI-GATE

Over the weekend, Facebook took down a message by the Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS) which highlighted the fact that Obama denied backup to the forces being overrun in Benghazi.
The message was contained in a meme which demonstrated how Obama had relied on the SEALS when he was ready to let them get Osama bin Laden, and how he had turned around and denied them when they called for backup on Sept 11.

I spoke with Larry Ward, president of Political Media, Inc -- the media company that handles SOS postings and media production. Ward was the one who personally put the Navy SEAL meme up, and the one who received the warning from Facebook and an eventual 24 hour suspension from Facebook because Ward put the meme back up after Facebook told him to take it down.

Here's what Ward told me:

We created and posted this meme on Saturday after news broke that Obama had known and denied SEALS the backup they requested.

Once the meme was up it garnered 30,000 shares, approx. 24,000 likes, and was read by hundreds of thousands of people -- all within 24 hrs. On Sunday, I went into the SOS Facebook page to post something else and found a warning from Facebook that we had violated Facebook's Statement of Rights and Responsibilities with our meme. So I copied the warning, put it on the meme as as caption, and re-posted the meme to the Facebook page.

Along with the re-posted meme, Ward put a link to the Facebook "feedback comment" inbox so visitors to the SOS page could send a message to Facebook if they were as outraged over the meme being jerked down as he was.

Ward said Facebook pulled the re-posted meme down within 7 or 8 hours and suspended the SOS account for 24 hours.
In other words, Facebook put the Navy SEALS in timeout in order to shield Obama.

Update: Facebook Reverses, Allows SEALs' Post Critical of Obama

How low can they go?
 
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Probably pretty far since these allegations have already been discredited but they're still making up more crap.

Oh, you were referring to the Obama administration. My mistake. :lamo
 
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Probably pretty far since these allegations have already been discredited but they're still making up more crap.

Oh, you were referring to the Obama administration. My mistake. :lamo

The only allegation that has been discredited that favors Obama is the CIA not doing anything or waiting around for some approval from SOD. Course Obama thinking he can fall back on the Rose garden Speech is his misnomer too. As there is his Speech from Andrews Air force base and upon receiving the body of Stevens and the other fallen. Plus Clinton's Speech to the Pakis, Mali and and India over the continued protesting. So that narrative they are trying to deflect with. Didn't help their case.

I think Fienstein and some of those other Democrats want answers to all that had taken place Since the Attempted Assassination of the Brits Ambassador. Which she has called for Senate hearings after the election.

Oh.....did ya think the Obamabaloney was somehow above the fray? :roll:
 
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This disgusts me to no end. We have a cover up from the CIA, the State Department and the administration itself. The more information that comes out, the worse and worse it looks for the Obama administration and their cover up. This makes Watergate look like a pimple. This cannot be allowed to go unpunished. How anyone can vote for Obama after this is beyond me.

Tyrone Woods and the other two who ignored the ridiculous orders to stand down should be given medals and promotions. They knew the orders were wrong and that American lives were at stake. They saved lives by not following those orders. Had they followed them, there would have been more than 4 killed that day.

This is exactly what the Left complained about after the first 9/11, failure to connect the dots. Except the dots then were a hell of a lot further apart, and we had far less experience. This thing was a no brainer..........it was ****ing Libya. They should have had 30 Marine and Caliber .50 machine guns as a minimum guarding the Ambassador. They knew it was hostile, they knew the British had pulled out, they knew the Red Cross was gone, and who knows whoelse had left. This was about diplomatic footprint and trying to appease a country that was totally ****ed up internally. Right after Khadaffi was gone, they should have beefed up security. They stupidly relied on native security from the Libyans.
 
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This is exactly what the Left complained about after the first 9/11, failure to connect the dots. Except the dots then were a hell of a lot further apart, and we had far less experience. This thing was a no brainer..........it was ****ing Libya. They should have had 30 Marine and Caliber .50 machine guns as a minimum guarding the Ambassador. They knew it was hostile, they knew the British had pulled out, they knew the Red Cross was gone, and who knows whoelse had left. This was about diplomatic footprint and trying to appease a country that was totally ****ed up internally. Right after Khadaffi was gone, they should have beefed up security. They stupidly relied on native security from the Libyans.

They also ignored the Libyans own warnings.....as the Commander of the 17th Btn admitted he told US diplomats 3 days earlier that it was to dangerous to go in. That there had been kidnappings and assassinations of local officials and police etc etc. Also Stevens himself had warned Home-Team that the Salafis had been moving into the region. Which made things little more volatile.
 
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They also ignored the Libyans own warnings.....as the Commander of the 17th Btn admitted he told US diplomats 3 days earlier that it was to dangerous to go in. That there had been kidnappings and assassinations of local officials and police etc etc. Also Stevens himself had warned Home-Team that the Salafis had been moving into the region. Which made things little more volatile.

THIS is key, even the Libyans told them!
 
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THIS is key, even the Libyans told them!

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. intelligence efforts in Libya have suffered a significant setback due to the abandonment and exposure of a facility in Benghazi, Libya identified by a newspaper as a "CIA base" following a congressional hearing this week, according to U.S. government sources.

The intelligence post, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. mission that was targeted by militants in a September 11 attack, was evacuated of Americans after the assault that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens. Three other Americans died in the attacks on U.S.-occupied buildings, including two who were hit in a mortar blast at the secret compound.

The publication of satellite photos showing the site's location and layout have made it difficult, if not impossible, for intelligence agencies to reoccupy the site, according to government sources, speaking on condition of anonymity.....snip~

U.S. intelligence hurt when Libya base was abandoned - Yahoo! News

First off.....I want to know why this Administration would even consider re-occupying this site. The same would have to go for my Brutha.....Gen Petraeus
 
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The only allegation that has been discredited that favors Obama is the CIA not doing anything or waiting around for some approval from SOD. Course Obama thinking he can fall back on the Rose garden Speech is his misnomer too. As there is his Speech from Andrews Air force base and upon receiving the body of Stevens and the other fallen. Plus Clinton's Speech to the Pakis, Mali and and India over the continued protesting. So that narrative they are trying to deflect with. Didn't help their case.

I think Fienstein and some of those other Democrats want answers to all that had taken place Since the Attempted Assassination of the Brits Ambassador. Which she has called for Senate hearings after the election.

Oh.....did ya think the Obamabaloney was somehow above the fray? :roll:

According to the CIA, nobody was ordered to stand down.
 
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According to the CIA, nobody was ordered to stand down.

Yeah.....I think I established that fact.

Yet how does that change anything that the Libyans have told the BBC or any other News Sources other than the US? Of Course now the CIA helps to validate that Susan Rice knowingly was falsifying information to the American People with her round of Sunday talk Shows.

Seems she couldn't get the part Right about what Intel the CIA reported. Despite knowing Panetta had made the call not to send in anymore support. Any reason she is still walking around with her Job?

The Bigger joke was......news personnel in the US kept calling her Doctor. I didn't know they gave Doctorates for being an Absolute Disgrace to the Country!
 
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According to the CIA the CIA didn't tell them to stand down, the question remains who did then? Nice attempt at distorting the truth though.:lamo

How do you know anybody was ordered to stand down, and why were they ordered to?
 
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According to the CIA the CIA didn't tell them to stand down, the question remains who did then? Nice attempt at distorting the truth though.:lamo

Did you know that General Caarter Ham was in DC and in the situation room on Sept 11th?
 
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Did you know that General Caarter Ham was in DC and in the situation room on Sept 11th?

Yes, the question is was obama there and if not why not and if so why did he tell them to stand down. It is a simple question obama refuses to answer and claims to be launching an investigation to find out if he was there or not and if he gave the order to stand down or not, seems a bit odd huh.
 
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