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'Frankenstorm' Headed to Region

It was taken @ the corner of Wall St. and Broad, sorry that I can't source my friend's Facebook page. :roll:
AND..AGAIN..
what does that have to do with proving there's water on the Floor of the NYSE.. INDOORS.
It's not even a picture, as far as anyone can tell, of it from the outside.
You could at least show one "from your friend's facebook page" of his own wet basement.
What an Incoherent response that was.
 
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AND..AGAIN..
what does that have to do with proving there's water on the Floor of the NYSE.. INDOORS.
It's not even a picture, as far as anyone can tell, of it from the outside.
You could at least show one from your friend's wet basement. Really.

Calm down, I don't know anyone who is INSIDE, in fact I doubt many are. This **** is happening RIGHT NOW, you have irrational expectations sir.

Having first seen that photo, I didn't doubt much the claim about the water inside the NYSE. Nor do I give a **** if there isn't any water. Why you're so antagonistically skeptical is beyond me, you claimed the report was an error WITHOUT SOURCE, so... what makes you so sure?

EDIT: In fact, nevermind, I don't care to hear from the likes of you any further. There is real **** going on.
 
OMG, whether water is inside the NYSE or outside, it's bad, okay? Battery Park reportedly is under 13 feet of water, 5 people are dead in NY, 4 people are dead in NJ, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people are without power and/or telephone, news reports are being issued on the fly and mistakes will be made. But video of a guy standing in 4 feet of water at an Atlantic City intersection doesn't lie.

Is arguing minutiae on a forum really worth ignoring the big picture that millions of folks in the east are in the midst of a severe weather crisis? Priorities, people. Priorities.
 
Calm down, I don't know anyone who is INSIDE, in fact I doubt many are. This **** is happening RIGHT NOW, you have irrational expectations sir.
You made Irrational/nonsensical claim/'rebuttal'.
There would have been other ways to prove me wrong.. if you had even basic net skills.

Having first seen tht photo, I didn't doubt much the claim about the water inside the NYSE. Why you're so antagonistically skeptical is beyond me, you claimed the report was an error WITHOUT SOURCE, so... what makes you so sure?
I had heard it on both Weather Channel and ABC.
Both corrected themselves On Air.
The last on ABC just before I posted the corr'n. (which is Why I did)
One ABC anchor corrected another saying that the report, originally from the weather channel, was wrong and withdrawn.
We may find out tomorrow it's true, but as of now .. it's simply BaseLess.

At least you could have found a parroting link for the same report.
Was it "irrational" to expect rationality from you?
I guess so.
Back to Facebook Friends for Your 'News', which was Not coherent refutation of anything. Not even a pic of the NYSE, in or out.
Really.
 
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The GOP has stated that States should be responsible for their own recovery and that the Feds should not be involved. I disagree. Ask the poor bastards in harms way if they want the Feds to butt off.

I hope all of you and yours are safe. I've been there and done that with 4 hurricanes. It's too late to offer advice. Being a lower level huiricane and being very urban you will not lose major landmarks. You will find your way out and back home. That is a very good thing. You will not become disoriented. That's a plus, as you will discover. If you can, leave people armed at home as you go out in search for necessities. There will be looters, especially in the hardest hit areas.
 
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Washington Post Photo Gallery - adverts first then 59 pictures.

Hope you guys are all safe and well over there, some reports over here say the funnel of cold air coming down from the north may make some conditions even worse inland from the flooding in New York.
 
Appears a levee has been breached in Northern NJ.

Massive flooding....people standing on the roofs of their homes to survive....rescue boats in the water.

Sounds like Katrina.
 
Washington Post Photo Gallery - adverts first then 59 pictures.

Hope you guys are all safe and well over there, some reports over here say the funnel of cold air coming down from the north may make some conditions even worse inland from the flooding in New York.

What a terrible mess. Those poor people..
 
Washington Post Photo Gallery - adverts first then 59 pictures.

Hope you guys are all safe and well over there, some reports over here say the funnel of cold air coming down from the north may make some conditions even worse inland from the flooding in New York.

This is just awful. I'm about to head off to bed, it's late at night here and i just want you all to know this is being heavily reported on the other side of the world and we are all thinking of you and hoping that you and your families are ok and stay safe. I hope i wake to better news for you all.
 
Watching the blizzards in WV as I type, it's insane. In Queens NY it's like the Japanese tsunami with water everywhere, fires raging, and no way for the firefighters to get there. BBC news 24 has been almost entirely given over to the disaster. Stay safe!
 
OMG, whether water is inside the NYSE or outside, it's bad, okay? Battery Park reportedly is under 13 feet of water, 5 people are dead in NY, 4 people are dead in NJ, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people are without power and/or telephone, news reports are being issued on the fly and mistakes will be made. But video of a guy standing in 4 feet of water at an Atlantic City intersection doesn't lie.

Is arguing minutiae on a forum really worth ignoring the big picture that millions of folks in the east are in the midst of a severe weather crisis? Priorities, people. Priorities.
I am quite aware of the overall situation and have posted it throughout (not to mention the/my OP) including in the post http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...kenstorm-headed-region-17.html#post1061081692
in which the 'NYSE' was just an edit (after a significant List) which I Rightfully corrected.

The unfortunate discussion with Lachean only went on, indeed only started, with an empty but contrary post otherwise.
But at least our discussion was on the topic if minor in the big picture.
I was distressed early in the string of some utterly off topic partisan bickering, though I did Not attempt to moderate or censor it with 'traffic sign' posts. At least one Other poster said it was all hype.

Again, I have posted the overall disaster throughout and was Myself displaced due to the Storm as were some family and friends in the this/NY area. I don't need You telling me the gravity or appointing yourself string director.
 
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The good thing is everyone in the world agreed to stop all activities until this is over so the media can cover it 24/7.
 
The good thing is everyone in the world agreed to stop all activities until this is over so the media can cover it 24/7.

"It's just a windy, rainy day"

Change your mind yet? Which part of broken levies, record-setting storm surges, and dead people do you think is being over-hyped? Maybe you can tell us which story is more important? I know, maybe some random out-of-context sentence the president said. Or a sex scandal!
 
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Reports today more than 7 Million homes (perhaps twice or more that many people) in 20 states have no power.
Half apparently in the Tri-state, NY, NJ, CT area.

Here in Manhattan, I have heard, but can't confirm there is no power below 40th st. 240,000 in Manhattan alone
Other boroughs could be worse.

LIPA, Long Island's power company, has nearly 900,000 of 1.1 million without power. 80%.
http://www.newsday.com/news/weather...n-lipa-customers-without-power-1.4165032?qr=1
Some will be a week or more returning.
Many sparser or damaged coastal areas on the East Coast will be several weeks to restore.
 
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We dodged the bullet here. My 81 year-old-mother-in-law is without power, however. We will get her to come here, if the power doesn't come on expeditiously. She isn't a whiner and is strong.

None of our trees came down, for which we are thankful.
 
I hope you folks who earlier in this thread were diminishing the impact this storm would have on the NE have reconsidered your comments.
 
Praying for everyone today. I have never seen anything like this storm that caused floods, fires and snow. Incredible!
 
Praying for everyone today. I have never seen anything like this storm that caused floods, fires and snow. Incredible!
It was an amazing and devastating Superstorm.
I am back in my place on the East River in Manhattan from a few blocks West.
Being right on the East River with a wide open south view/floor-to-ceiling glass, was perilous but no damage thankfully.
Was afraid as well, our bldg's garage would go under as it's only a few feet above FDR drive so had moved car.
Missed by a very few feet of drowning a few hundred autos.

My brother is out on Long Island and effected a mini-rescue himself yesterday early afternoon.
No power like the heavy majority of Long Island's 2.8 Million Residents.
When reports say "942,000 without power", that's customers/households, not people.
You have to multiply by app 2, I would guess, on all these utility reports of 'customer' outages.

Also, link reports many hospitals without power or backup.

Sandy's damage to LIPA may take 10 days to fix

"..More than 942,000 of LIPA's 1.1 million customers - 83% - were without power as of 1 p.m. Tuesday, far surpassing the 1985 record of 750,000 after Hurricane Gloria.".."

Damage to the regional electric backbone and other critical customers means that it could be "a few days or more" before the more than 1,200 repair crews are seen in neighborhoods doing repairs, LIPA's chief operating officer Michael Hervey said in an interview. LIPA expects full restoration to take at least 10 days, "and very possibly more," he said.
In all, 21 of the region's 27 hospitals have lost all or partial power from the grid, and they will be among the first to see repair crews, Hervey said. Of the total, 15 hospitals have their own generators, he said.

LIPA will also give priority to the extensive damage done to the transmission system in the wake of Sandra, including the roughly one-third of substations that have damaged or disconnected high-voltage lines from the area's power plants. A substation routes stepped-down power to neighborhood distribution networks. "We have several substations that do not have power to them," he said.

"This will go down as perhaps the largest disaster in Long Island history," Hervey said, noting the flooding, wind damage and the cumulative effect on the electric and other infrastructure.

While LIPA crews are only beginning to assess the damage, they are also working with local and county governments to help with the thousands of downed trees that require clearance from electric system where they have fallen on wires."."
My guess is more like a solid 3-4 Weeks for complete restoration as there is a shortage of neighboring crews to draw on because the damage was Heavy and regional.
LIPA also notoriously bad at restoration.
 
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How is the underground in New York, is it flooded? Let's hope not.
 
How is the underground in New York, is it flooded? Let's hope not.
[Guesstimate from viewing and Bloomberg Press conference this AM]

There is definitely water in the Subway tunnels, but mostly limited to Southern end. Of course, almost all the lines end/converge there.
Salt water makes fixing problematic too.
Yards where Eqpmt was stored also got flooded to some extent.

Lower lying lines in Brooklyn etc, a problem too.
Buses will be back first I hear.
Subways don't know.
Maybe (?) by weekend on some better lines or part runs. Next week for full. We'll see.
 
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We got spared. I went in to work today once the driving restrictions were lifted. Thankful for no damage, but I do fully understand how lucky we were.
 
as far as i hear ,even obama cancelled his campaign meetings..i hope it does not harm anyone...take care of you!!!
 
I hope you folks who earlier in this thread were diminishing the impact this storm would have on the NE have reconsidered your comments.

Big storm? Yes. I am truly sorry for all who have lost anything due to Sandy. At this point Sandy hasn't lived up to the hype. Katrina was a Cat3 while I'm not certain that Sandy ever reached even Cat 1 by the time it hit.
 
Big storm? Yes. I am truly sorry for all who have lost anything due to Sandy. At this point Sandy hasn't lived up to the hype. Katrina was a Cat3 while I'm not certain that Sandy ever reached even Cat 1 by the time it hit.

Winds were sustained at 90 MPH at landfall.
 
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