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Indiana Republican: When life begins from rape, "God intended" it [W:266]

Objective-J said:
what the hell are you talking about now LMAO

engaging in what?

are you trying to address the OP here?
do you even know if I addressed the OP here and what I said?

and you telling me not to say you went off the deep end wont stop me because you are doing it again!

you are ranting about the OP which you do not know if i commented on, you are accusing me of lord knows what simply because i posted here, so you are ASSUMING you have a clue to what i said and then you bring up biden and you have no clue if i have ever commented on him either.

that is the pure definition of being knee jerk and ranting, you dont even know you are doing it do you?

WOW

and for the record ANYBODY that talks about rape that way is hurting themselves IMO
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You must pick and choose what you read. I already stated that I did not read the thread. Maybe I should've been more specific. My point was that it's not surprising you're engaging in this hogwash. Furthermore, I'm confident you're not on the record, or the attack, on Biden's comments I quoted. Yes, I know it's not the topic of the thread, but that's not my point. Now do what you do best and twist away.
 
Breitbart4Life said:
1.)You must pick and choose what you read. I already stated that I did not read the thread. Maybe I should've been more specific.
2.)My point was that it's not surprising you're engaging in this hogwash.
3.)Furthermore, I'm confident you're not on the record, or the attack, on Biden's comments I quoted. Yes, I know it's not the topic of the thread, but that's not my point. Now do what you do best and twist away.
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1.) but you proceeded to make illogical partisan assumptions anyway didnt you? yes lol
2.) more prove, how do you know im engaging in any hogwash if you didnt read the thread?
3.) and again more proof of your kneejerk assumptions that i comment on the OP or Biden.

no twist, all true lol

abortion rights in this thread and very very little about the OP, thanks
 
Objective-J said:
1.) but you proceeded to make illogical partisan assumptions anyway didnt you? yes lol
2.) more prove, how do you know im engaging in any hogwash if you didnt read the thread?
3.) and again more proof of your kneejerk assumptions that i comment on the OP or Biden.

no twist, all true lol

abortion rights in this thread and very very little about the OP, thanks
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1.) I never backed any comments on rape. I went even further to push myself away from them and went on to question why Republicans have continued to make such ill-calcuations.
2.) I made that easy conclusion by witnessing your "one size fits all" condescending style.
3.) If you denounced Biden for his comments, please prove me wrong. I have no qualms admitting to fault.
 
Breitbart4Life said:
1.) I never backed any comments on rape. I went even further to push myself away from them and went on to question why Republicans have continued to make such ill-calcuations.
2.) I made that easy conclusion by witnessing your "one size fits all" condescending style.
3.) If you denounced Biden for his comments, please prove me wrong. I have no qualms admitting to fault.
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seriously are you messing with me?
1.) who said you backed rape????????? NOBODY lol
2.) I have no one size fits all style, you in fact did everything i said you did lol if you do not like being called biased (which YOU already admitted you are) then dont post bias :shrug: simply solution
3.) jesus dude, you know you are continuing to expose yourself by even asking this right? lol

i have no means of proving it nor am i interested nor is it at all relevant to anything LOL
 
Objective-J said:
seriously are you messing with me?
1.) who said you backed rape????????? NOBODY lol
2.) I have no one size fits all style, you in fact did everything i said you did lol if you do not like being called biased (which YOU already admitted you are) then dont post bias :shrug: simply solution
3.) jesus dude, you know you are continuing to expose yourself by even asking this right? lol

i have no means of proving it nor am i interested nor is it at all relevant to anything LOL
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If you're truly innocent of anything I've accused you of, your problem is that you're not clear. You speak in ambiguity. Like I said, if you've denounced Biden's comments, simply provide them. I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong.
 
Breitbart4Life said:
If you're truly innocent of anything I've accused you of, your problem is that you're not clear. You speak in ambiguity. Like I said, if you've denounced Biden's comments, simply provide them. I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong.
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i couldnt be more clear, nor have i tried to prove my innocents only proved how biased and kneejerk you are :shrug:

also has i already stated i have no means of proving it nor am i interested nor is it at all relevant to anything LOL

lastly you have already been wrong and havent admitted it.
 
Objective-J said:
i couldnt be more clear, nor have i tried to prove my innocents only proved how biased and kneejerk you are :shrug:

also has i already stated i have no means of proving it nor am i interested nor is it at all relevant to anything LOL

lastly you have already been wrong and havent admitted it.
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So you can't provide me any shred of evidence that you've denounced Biden's equally outrageous comments, but stand by the fact that you're "objective"? OK, gotcha.
 
Breitbart4Life said:
So you can't provide me any shred of evidence that you've denounced Biden's equally outrageous comments, but stand by the fact that you're "objective"? OK, gotcha.
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yes, pretty simple actually

whats even better is this has no point or impact on anything being discussed lol
 
Pinkie said:
I dunno if you are asking us or telling us, Kal'Stang, but I was a teenager when Roe v. Wade was decided and yes, if abortion is a crime, women die. The rusty coathanger is not just a metaphor.
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I was stating a known fact. But I wasn't talking about back alley abortions. Women die without any outside assistance just through the course of a normal pregnancy.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I was stating a known fact. But I wasn't talking about back alley abortions. Women die without any outside assistance just through the course of a normal pregnancy.
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Death is not the only possible adverse effect of a pregnancy. There are a lot of diseases that can gear up and never end; fertility can be destroyed; the fetus can obviously be damaged; etc. etc. etc. A pregnant girl may suffer in ways we don't fully appreciate yet, but that we know intuitively are shortening her life or disabling to her.

And all those are purely physical illnesses in women who receive adequate prenatal and delivery care. A pregnant woman is also at a higher risk of domestic violence, poverty, job loss, home loss, etc. and so are any kids she already has.
 
Anagram said:
When life begins from rape, God intended it
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Oh come now, Obama has no such intention whatsoever. It is quite clear from His speeches that he supports abortion-on-demand.
 
Objective-J said:
1.) no im not wrong baout him vewing them as less, there as been zero evidence to suggest otherwise.
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I did everything I came to do on the matter. I told you his views and what it is all based on. He doesn't think women are less and that is just a matter of fact. You appear to want to explore past that foundation and while I will admit I humored that, its really not place.
 
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Taylor said:
Oh come now, Obama has no such intention whatsoever. It is quite clear from His speeches that he supports abortion-on-demand.
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My cable provider doesn't carry Abortion On Demand.
 
disneydude said:
READ THE FRIGGIN PLATFORM. They have eliminated any exceptions. Please pay attention if you want to participate.
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Again, YOU read it. I asked you to QUOTE from it where it says no exceptions and you failed to do so, because it's not there.
 
Anagram said:
I don't think that's true. Although I disagree with their views, and Akin said a lot that was just factually wrong, I can understand the reasoning behind their views and I think they are logically consistent. I also don't believe they've descended anywhere near the levels of madness as blowing up schools and assassinating 11 year olds.
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No, maybe not, but this is how it starts.
 
Henrin said:
I did everything I came to do on the matter. I told you his views and what it is all based on. He doesn't think women are less and that is just a matter of fact. You appear to want to explore past that foundation and while I will admit I humored that, its really not place.
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translation: you have no logic or facts to go against my claim while i do :shrug:

yep, you told me his views and they provided evidence for exactly what i said lol

if you disagree please answer the question he is afraid to and has dodged for probably a year lol.

Like him you ignore REALITY. You and him may not WANT to make women less or INTEND to make them less but the FACT remain if you had your way women WOULD be less.

The questions is: once abortion is illegal what happens to all the women who do not want to carry a ZEF to term?
 
And your counter-question was quite plain. What happens to most humans who want to kill other humans?



For the record, I'm neither lesser nor enslaved in any way because I'm not permitted to kill other humans in aggression. That dog just won't hunt. Sorry.
 
spud_meister said:
It's consistent, rape doesn't lessen the value of the life conceived.
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Really? Try telling that to a rape VICTIM.

I can see how this conversations goes:

*pats her on her head* sorry honey, but the cells growing inside you are more important than you. Suck it up, it'll be over in about 9 months.


Or as Romney likes to tell woman "Why should you have it so easy?"
 
JayDubya said:
And your counter-question was quite plain. What happens to most humans who want to kill other humans?



For the record, I'm neither lesser nor enslaved in any way because I'm not allowed to kill other humans in aggression.
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You don't have to carry them around in your abdomen and feed them for 9 months either.

Since the OP was about pregnancies from rape, let's stick to that topic. If a woman is raped, it's safe to say that she did not choose to have sex with this person.
 
A Fan Letter to Certain Conservative Politicians

Hi! I’m a rapist. I’m one of those men who likes to force myself on women without their consent or desire and then batter them sexually. The details of how I do this are not particularly important at the moment — although I love when you try to make distinctions about “forcible rape” or “legitimate rape” because that gives me all sorts of wiggle room — but I will tell you one of the details about why I do it: I like to control women and, also and independently, I like to remind them how little control they have. There’s just something about making the point to a woman that her consent and her control of her own body is not relevant against the need for a man to possess that body and control it that just plain gets me off. A guy’s got needs, you know? And my need is for control. Sweet, sweet control.
So I want to take time out of my schedule to thank you for supporting my right to control a woman’s life, not just when I’m raping her, but for all the rest of her life as well.
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The above linked is an exaggeration to make a point. It is also not fr off from how many of us do view the far right, and with good reason.
 
I can't believe in the 21st century we are talking about "legitimate rape" and "gift from God rape".
 
rocket88 said:
You don't have to carry them around in your abdomen and feed them for 9 months either.

If a woman is raped, it's safe to say that she did not choose to have sex with this person.
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Well, that would be the definition of rape, yes.
 
JayDubya said:
Well, that would be the definition of rape, yes.
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OK, so the "They made the choice already" doesn't apply then. Because they didn't make the choice already.

Your position is that they should be required to carry around and feed a person they didn't in any way choose to have there. Why?
 
Thorgasm said:
I can't believe in the 21st century we are talking about "legitimate rape" and "gift from God rape".
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If we have to have discussions about whether Jesus rode a dinosaur or not, apparently we do.
 
EyesWideOpen said:
Really? Try telling that to a rape VICTIM.

I can see how this conversations goes:

*pats her on her head* sorry honey, but the cells growing inside you are more important than you. Suck it up, it'll be over in about 9 months.


Or as Romney likes to tell woman "Why should you have it so easy?"
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Didn't they only say that the rape itself is a way that could have been arranged by God? I don't see where they implied that the resulting pregnancy too.

Maybe if the animal kingdom is any kind of indication (as our evolutionary predecessor or not), raped females auto-abort their pregnancies. The reason why human women can't auto-abort is our advance technology and comfort that comes with it. Biologically, rape is an infeasible pregnancy because it does not carry the male's time invested in the child.

Also, may be interesting, we have no way to tell what God considers finished/completed. Most projects get axed, most people die under 20 with God only and without technology, so why would abortion be an exception? Can we clain then that if God provides rape, then God provides abortion too?
 
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