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Gay GOP group hesitantly backs Romney

If there are both Republicans and Democrats opposing it, it's bipartisan.

No, it keeps the state from dictating that a religious organization perform actions inconsistent with their religious beliefs.
Again, both Republicans and Democrats oppose gay marriage.

No, sir. It's you being dishonest. There is no gay right that is solely opposed by the GOP.

You are now just blatantly lying.
http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_Renewing/#Item1
Right here, in thier party platform, anti gay marraige.
http://www.democrats.org/democratic-national-platform
Right here, support for gay marriage.

There is nothing beyond a few individuals that differ from thier party for your claim. You are simply wrong.
 
Are you aware that the majority of Black America is both Democrat and anti-gay marriage?

Lots of the polls I have see, make the more evenly split, but it is totally pointless. There are ALWAYS some people who do not agree with thier party, but it is very clear the majority of democrats support gay rights, it is right there in thier platform, just as the majority of republicans are opposed as is right there in the platform.

Want some numbers? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobil...gay-marriage-pew-research-poll_n_1723295.html and remember this is Marriage, if it were civil unions and/or marriage the numbers would be even higher in democratic support (and to be fair probably higher in republican support too).

The fact is, the platform is the will of the party collectively, individual members disagrement is not bipartisan, otherwise there is bipartisan support for and against every issue.
 
Lots of the polls I have see, make the more evenly split, but it is totally pointless. There are ALWAYS some people who do not agree with thier party, but it is very clear the majority of democrats support gay rights, it is right there in thier platform, just as the majority of republicans are opposed as is right there in the platform.

Want some numbers? Democrats Now Strongly Favor Gay Marriage, Pew Research Poll Says and remember this is Marriage, if it were civil unions and/or marriage the numbers would be even higher in democratic support (and to be fair probably higher in republican support too).

The fact is, the platform is the will of the party collectively, individual members disagrement is not bipartisan, otherwise there is bipartisan support for and against every issue.

Even when their elected representatives vote against their party platform?
 
Even when their elected representatives vote against their party platform?
Yes, of course. Want me to find pro gun democrats and pro choice republicans because I can. It wouldn't prove anything, there isn't bipartisan support because a minority in the opposition party votes against thier party line.

I have already posted more than enough evidence of the majority position, if LGBT republicans think it is worth voting for republicans because of the economy fine, but if they want to imagine the GOP supports LGBT rights then they are deluding themselves.
 
Always important to keep in mind that while one may be fixated on the homosexual routine as the most important thing in the world when it comes to voting, it's important to realize that within that big liberal circus tent, the majority of liberal client groups dislike each other and dislike the various subjects of each other's single issue focus. Feminists dislike men and many other women, blacks and Hispanics dislike homosexuals, all other Hispanics dislike Mexicans, blacks hate whites, etc., etc., etc.

There is only one thing that unites those diverse liberal client groups and that is their common hatred of traditional America and the traditional American status quo. With regards to that hate and rage, they are like brothers in a common bond dedicated to destruction. All driven by liberal rage, hatred, bigotry and racism.

How far that mutual hate coupled with the uniting bond of rage and hate will take the loons is anybody's guess. If California's Proposition 8 was any indication, the answer is not too far.
 
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I know a lot of liberals personally. You just made this up.
Always important to keep in mind that while one may be fixated on the homosexual routine as the most important thing in the world when it comes to voting, it's important to realize that within that big liberal circus tent, the majority of liberal client groups dislike each other and dislike the various subjects of each other's single issue focus. Feminists dislike men and many other women, blacks and Hispanics dislike homosexuals, all other Hispanics dislike Mexicans, blacks hate whites, etc., etc., etc.

There is only one thing that unites those diverse liberal client groups and that is their common hatred of traditional America and the traditional American status quo. With regards to that hate and rage, they are like brothers in a common bond dedicated to destruction. All driven by liberal rage, hatred, bigotry and racism.

How far that mutual hate coupled with the uniting bond of rage and hate will take the loons is anybody's guess. If California's Proposition 8 was any indication, the answer is not too far.
 
Yes, of course. Want me to find pro gun democrats and pro choice republicans because I can. It wouldn't prove anything, there isn't bipartisan support because a minority in the opposition party votes against thier party line.

I have already posted more than enough evidence of the majority position, if LGBT republicans think it is worth voting for republicans because of the economy fine, but if they want to imagine the GOP supports LGBT rights then they are deluding themselves.

Oh, now it's "the majority position",
 
Oh, now it's "the majority position",

And you have yet to address his argument that every position could be considered bipartisan by your standard.
 
And you have yet to address his argument that every position could be considered bipartisan by your standard.

Perhaps, but this issue has strong opposition from both sides of the aisle. It's often proudly proclaimed that minorities and union workers are staunchly democrat, yet they are also primarily anti-SSM...right along with the so-called religious right. I think it can more accurately be said that there are plancks adopted by the party elites, on both sides, that the rank and file of the parties don't necessarily support. At least not enthusiastically.
 
Perhaps, but this issue has strong opposition from both sides of the aisle. It's often proudly proclaimed that minorities and union workers are staunchly democrat, yet they are also primarily anti-SSM...right along with the so-called religious right. I think it can more accurately be said that there are plancks adopted by the party elites, on both sides, that the rank and file of the parties don't necessarily support. At least not enthusiastically.

Did you not read the poll I posted?Nearly 2/3 of all democrats support ssm, that is a large majority, nearly 3/4 of republicans oppose it, a large majorty. You are trying to play up the divisiveness of this issue among democrats, even among blacks it was scarely a majority that was opposed.

You can paint it as elites versus rank and file but the polling data doesnt support it, not only that but I am a blue collar worker, and the local teamsters even had stickers out saying "teamsters for Maryland marriage equality". Certainly they seem about as liberal as the normal people in the metro dc area.
 
Did you not read the poll I posted?Nearly 2/3 of all democrats support ssm, that is a large majority, nearly 3/4 of republicans oppose it, a large majorty. You are trying to play up the divisiveness of this issue among democrats, even among blacks it was scarely a majority that was opposed.

You can paint it as elites versus rank and file but the polling data doesnt support it, not only that but I am a blue collar worker, and the local teamsters even had stickers out saying "teamsters for Maryland marriage equality". Certainly they seem about as liberal as the normal people in the metro dc area.

I guess that explains why SSM is legal nation wide....
 
My neighbors are gay and we live in Ca. and they are voting for Romney because as they keep telling their friends "Its the Economy stupid!" its just like the Obama campaign telling me as a woman to vote "As if my body parts depend on it".....I was like WHAT! sorry but I don't think with my WhoHa......:lamo
 
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