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Maine GOP attack Dem for playing World of Warcraft!

Typical plutocratic hypocrisy. They are the ones who imposed on recent generations a childish unpaid college education and made it all-important. Unless college students are heirheads living off an allowance, their self-destructive ambition leads them to unnaturally live like adolescents. Barely getting by on part-time jobs, they can't afford cars and dates. Their hateful and permanently damaging poverty stunts their growth. But the bullying employers knew full well what kind of unmanly escapists and submissive employees this indentured servitude would produce. The rich parasites don't create jobs, but they certainly created all this immaturity by their command economics that 18-year-olds live like 14-year-olds until they are 22.
 
Would we be better off if they went back to playing bridge, dominoes, Risk, or w/e else people played before these games came about?
What difference does it make that the game involves a computer/console?
True story:

Seats and tables in the USO for transient troops is a rare commodity as the USO is always full. If you land a seat, you don't get up for anything or you will lose it.

In Bagram Air Field, a squad (about 12 soldiers) took over a table in a good location by starting a board game of Risk. These Joes worked in shifts, with only 2-4 playing the game at any given time. The others would bring in chow for whoever was playing. I understand they did a similar trick with their transient tent: beds were limited, so they claimed a few good beds (hard to come by in Afghanistan) and slept in shifts, sharing the beds with the rest of their squad. So a given Joe had to occupy a bed for 8 hours, play risk for 8 hours, and then had 8 hours free except to bring chow to the players.

When I passed though and learned of it, the single game of Risk was going on it's 5th day.
 
True story:
Seats and tables in the USO for transient troops is a rare commodity as the USO is always full. If you land a seat, you don't get up for anything or you will lose it.
In Bagram Air Field, a squad (about 12 soldiers) took over a table in a good location by starting a board game of Risk. These Joes worked in shifts, with only 2-4 playing the game at any given time. The others would bring in chow for whoever was playing. I understand they did a similar trick with their transient tent: beds were limited, so they claimed a few good beds (hard to come by in Afghanistan) and slept in shifts, sharing the beds with the rest of their squad. So a given Joe had to occupy a bed for 8 hours, play risk for 8 hours, and then had 8 hours free except to bring chow to the players.
When I passed though and learned of it, the single game of Risk was going on it's 5th day.
LOL
We're such funny creatures.
 
Typical plutocratic hypocrisy. They are the ones who imposed on recent generations a childish unpaid college education and made it all-important. Unless college students are heirheads living off an allowance, their self-destructive ambition leads them to unnaturally live like adolescents. Barely getting by on part-time jobs, they can't afford cars and dates. Their hateful and permanently damaging poverty stunts their growth. But the bullying employers knew full well what kind of unmanly escapists and submissive employees this indentured servitude would produce. The rich parasites don't create jobs, but they certainly created all this immaturity by their command economics that 18-year-olds live like 14-year-olds until they are 22.

According to Barrack Obama a child can live with their parents, and be covered by Obamacare, until the child is 26.

At one time (married) Americans would be raising a family by that age.
 
Would we be better off if they went back to playing bridge, dominoes, Risk, or w/e else people played before these games came about?
What difference does it make that the game involves a computer/console?

Because there is live human interaction with those games, there is a social aspect with real people. That's the real difference it seems.
 
Because there is live human interaction with those games, there is a social aspect with real people. That's the real difference it seems.
So in WoW or w/e you don't have live, social interaction with other humans?
I am not sure that's accurate.
 
Because there is live human interaction with those games, there is a social aspect with real people. That's the real difference it seems.

There is also human interaction within video games.
 
So in WoW or w/e you don't have live, social interaction with other humans?
I am not sure that's accurate.

It's not at all accurate. It's called a multiplayer game for a reason. People interact with each other all the time. The only difference is that it's not in person like an old-school boardgame. (I don't play, btw, but my brother used to)
 
It's not at all accurate. It's called a multiplayer game for a reason. People interact with each other all the time. The only difference is that it's not in person like an old-school boardgame. (I don't play, btw, but my brother used to)

Exactly. Real names are seldom used and there is no live contact with body language etc. I can;t see why this is so difficult to understand.
 
Exactly. Real names are seldom used and there is no live contact with body language etc. I can;t see why this is so difficult to understand.

But there's still human interaction, I don't get why you have to hate.
 
Not everyone. I don't. My wife doesn't. Most of my friends don't. The people I work with don't.

Of all the people I know, work with, am friends with, am acquaintances with and the conversations we have, video games is never a topic.

Again, I exist in the real world.

I have never played a video game.
 
Exactly. Real names are seldom used and there is no live contact with body language etc. I can;t see why this is so difficult to understand.

Possibly because it's not what you said in the last post. You said "no social interaction with real people" which there actually is quite a lot of in any given MMO. Is it the same as sitting around a dining room table with a bunch of people? Of course not. But neither is talking on the telephone, and no one in their right mind would argue that that's not a social interaction with a real person.
 
Possibly because it's not what you said in the last post. You said "no social interaction with real people" which there actually is quite a lot of in any given MMO. Is it the same as sitting around a dining room table with a bunch of people? Of course not. But neither is talking on the telephone, and no one in their right mind would argue that that's not a social interaction with a real person.

In fact, in regards to MMO, there's are just as many rules for social interaction as in real life.
 
This is what the Democrat candidate said, not just thought.

"I love poisoning and stabbing," "I can kill stuff without going to jail" and "I like to stab things and I'm originally from New Jersey, what's your (expletive) point?"

Would you be equally content if Mitt Romney had made those statements?

The Death of the Grown-Up | Diana West > Book
If Romney were to come Into my game (Eve online, aka spreadsheets online), I suspect we would farm his tears until he quit, if not, if he toughened up and talked in the way our culture does, being grateful for a good fight lost o won, tolerating no weakness (harden the F**k up is the devs catchphrase) and expressing creativity, scamming others in banking schemes, etc I would respect him far more than I do now.

I can't speak to the culture that plays wow as I do not but something tells me that a certain glorification of (fictional) violence is part of the culture. And that probably isn't a bad thing, much like in eve paranoia is part of the culture due to our free market with no rules, scams are legal, but it doesn't make me go out and defraud people.
 
If this is actually a point of attack by the GOP candidate, then I would say they've given up on winning this seat. Desperation doesn't normally play well with the electorate.
 
This is what the Democrat candidate said, not just thought.

"I love poisoning and stabbing," "I can kill stuff without going to jail" and "I like to stab things and I'm originally from New Jersey, what's your (expletive) point?"

Would you be equally content if Mitt Romney had made those statements?

The Death of the Grown-Up | Diana West > Book

That's what she said in the context of a game. If you can show she demonstrated similar thoughts in real life, you might be on to something. Until then, not so much.
 
In fact, in regards to MMO, there's are just as many rules for social interaction as in real life.

Except in real life, you don't come back to life...
 
Would we be better off if they went back to playing bridge, dominoes, Risk, or w/e else people played before these games came about?
What difference does it make that the game involves a computer/console?
Because there is live human interaction with those games, there is a social aspect with real people. That's the real difference it seems.
So in WoW or w/e you don't have live, social interaction with other humans?
I am not sure that's accurate.
Or, you may want to re read the post and what I was responding to.
If you not trying to make the distinction between computer/console games vs board games by pointing out that one of the categories of games [maybe the board games maybe the computer games not clear from the text] has something which the other does not, namely "live human interaction" and 'a social aspect with real people." Then I have missed the point.
 
Let's be honest. The majority of the time, even the most dedicated games teach relatively minor amounts of critical thinking. Sure, some puzzle solving here or there, or whatever, but these things are usually isolated to each game's systems of reality. I'll grant you this, however, a great many novels are trash. I even have some quarrels with the virtue of reading novels as well.

That's not really true, necessarily. Especially when you start screwing around with intense strategy games like the Civilization series. Those games have a learning curve like the Matterhorn, and even playing on the lower difficulty settings requires a great deal of problem solving and strategic thinking. Imagine chess with ten different oponents at the same time, and you're coming close to the ballpark. Obviously that's not true for something like WoW, but all games are not alike.
 
That's what she said in the context of a game. If you can show she demonstrated similar thoughts in real life, you might be on to something. Until then, not so much.

She expressed the thoughts.

I've never expressed them and most people I know haven't expressed them either..Perhaps we just travel in different circles.
 
It's not at all accurate. It's called a multiplayer game for a reason. People interact with each other all the time. The only difference is that it's not in person like an old-school boardgame. (I don't play, btw, but my brother used to)

It's the difference between phone sex and genuine sex with another human being.

Sure there's human interaction in either case but there is also quite a difference between the two..
 
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