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GM Recalls 40,859 Cars For Possible Fuel Leaks

Maybe, just maybe, GM will figure out to stop building monster cars. I'm very optimistic about these 2, the Spark and the Sonic.

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It isn't. Prof is like a cross between Chicken Little and Whack-A-Mole. ;)

Oh God, that means it's only a matter of time till he drags out that LA Times citation he's been beating on for a week.
 
The fuel leaks sound like the result of a design or engineering flaw. Once again the professional class can't hold up its end and tries to blame the people who carry out their instructions.

Actually, I doubt it was the designers themselves, lots of times professional bean counters will review designs and make changes to cut costs, it happens a great deal, I remember in a solenoid valve in a product I used to repair it had seals rated to 90psi with a 100psi pressure vent, the company bought these and thier "efficiency engineers" decided instead of buying a vale rated for 200psi they would just replace the spring in the pressure relief system. Turns out, this causes a high failure rate of seals, but the original designers were not at fault, but still blamed for it.

Orc efficiency experts are still the professional class and probably make lots more than say mechanical engineers and cause more problems most likely.
 
I swear to you that is EXACTLY what he said. I don't have a TV or a radio so I only listen to the radio in my car. I love to listen to the talk stations and I usually make fun of them.

I heard this with my own 2 ears. He was ranting about unions, and that's what he said. Now, he gets wound up and I'm sure he doesn't believe half of his own words but....yeah, he did.




I doubt it.
 
Pssst! Pssst!

The Japanese transplants do not have any unions - pass it on!
 
Actually, I doubt it was the designers themselves, lots of times professional bean counters will review designs and make changes to cut costs, it happens a great deal, I remember in a solenoid valve in a product I used to repair it had seals rated to 90psi with a 100psi pressure vent, the company bought these and thier "efficiency engineers" decided instead of buying a vale rated for 200psi they would just replace the spring in the pressure relief system. Turns out, this causes a high failure rate of seals, but the original designers were not at fault, but still blamed for it.

Orc efficiency experts are still the professional class and probably make lots more than say mechanical engineers and cause more problems most likely.

I'll never forget an example of engineering brilliance at the printing company I worked for. One of my department's new presses burned out four of the drive motors that powered each of the individual printing units. We didn't have any in stock so they called the manufacturer to get replacements. Turned out they didn't have any either. This created a management panic as the press was in the middle of a job that was already badly behind schedule. The work couldn't be moved to another press because none in the company were compatible with this white elephant. Finally, displaying true genius, the plant engineer decided to order 60 hp motors (that were in stock) to replace the 100 hp ones the press was designed to use. Took the shop an entire 8 hour shift to install the new ones which lasted about 10 minutes before burning out. Took another 8 hours to remove the 60 hp ones so they were ready when the proper ones finally became available.
 
OMG! A car company had to recall some cars?


QUICK! To the PRESSES!!!


THIS IS NEWS, PEOPLE!


Related note...my corvette has a slight fuel leak...but it's a 76'....think I'll be able to slip her in under the radar?
 
Honda is having to recall 400 000 Accords,


I guess that means companies with government ownership have 10 times fewer problems
 
Care to try again? I played softball in the company league for four years and my team(as well as pretty much everyone else) beat the crap out of the office team each time we played them. It's just amazing how those who make the most money in a corporation, supposedly because of their heavy responsibilities, have an excuse why it is the hourly workers' fault anytime there's a screw up. It's a primary reason they aren't respected in the workplace.

LOL, I was referencing your finger pointing in the same way you accuse your coworkers. You have a lot of envy, or disdain, for people who are paid for their jobs and not for their time. Professionally, to what do you aspire in your life?
 
LOL, I was referencing your finger pointing in the same way you accuse your coworkers. You have a lot of envy, or disdain, for people who are paid for their jobs and not for their time. Professionally, to what do you aspire in your life?

Actually, I have contempt for incompetence. The fact that in corporate America the most incompetent are often the highest paid and least responsible for their actions just magnifies my contempt. That's why I want to vomit whenever the right starts acting like this country, and especially the business sector, is a meritocracy.
 
Actually, I have contempt for incompetence. The fact that in corporate America the most incompetent are often the highest paid and least responsible for their actions just magnifies my contempt. That's why I want to vomit whenever the right starts acting like this country, and especially the business sector, is a meritocracy.

There is nothing wrong with having contempt for incompetence, but you have determined as a fact that the most incompentent are often the highest paid? Not sure about your political comment about the right, but clearly it colors your thinking. I'm sure plenty on all sides can think the same thing.

Again, to what do you aspire professionally?
 
Actually, I have contempt for incompetence. The fact that in corporate America the most incompetent are often the highest paid and least responsible for their actions just magnifies my contempt. That's why I want to vomit whenever the right starts acting like this country, and especially the business sector, is a meritocracy.

I have to agree. Moreover, a lot of hourly people are problem solvers who are quite smart but don't get credit for it, because we aren't in the managerial class. For example a tractor trailor needs to back into a dock to unload product, there are literally hundreds of variables in this scenerio that need to be taken into account in order for the driver to get this 70 foot monster lined up perfectly with these two litte 12" rubber pads on the dock. Many times this is also complicated by deregulation having made trucks far longer than docks were designed to accommodate.

Despite the actual complexity of the action the managers act as if it must be the easiest thing in the world since it is an everyday occurrence, they discount all problem solving abilities that are not thier own. This has been my experience with most corporate stooges, I have only had.a few.with real respect and understanding of what it takes to make business work on the ground level.
 
Which cars are being pulled, anyway?
 
The fuel leaks sound like the result of a design or engineering flaw. Once again the professional class can't hold up its end and tries to blame the people who carry out their instructions.

You got a source to back this up, or you just blabbing off?
 
You got a source to back this up, or you just blabbing off?

The original article says they are replacing a plastic part that can crack causing fuel leaks. The part is more likely to crack in warm or hot weather climates. Since the part isn't already cracked when the car comes off the assembly line, that would tend to eliminate the likelihood of an error in assembly. Someone either designed a part that is defective or approved the use of an already existing part that was inadequate to the task. Would you like me to explain how a toilet works next?
 
yes, recalls are very expensive

did rav4 or crv or escape or tribute crossover suspend operations?

USA Today: GM stops building slow-selling Chevy Volts for 5 weeks

GM Suspends Chevy Volt Production After Poor Sales | PCMag

twice?

in 2012?

did honda or toyota or hyundai or mazda discriminate against their non union pensioners, like delphi's

did subaru or ford cost the taxpayer 25B?

Treasury: U.S. to lose $25 billion on auto bailout | The Detroit News

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GM said its U.S. sales fell more than 6 percent last month as a money-back guarantee offer failed to attract many buyers.

The company blamed much of the drop from a year ago on reduced sales to rental car companies. But retail sales to individual buyers fell 3 percent.

GM's sales continued to lag growth in the overall market.

GM, Ford report lackluster July sales - NBC

today, gm blames low sales to rental outfits, but just a few weeks ago the vp for global affairs cited the politics of the bailout

"even republicans and independents buy cars," explained mr ewanik

"gm execs," according to wsj, complained, "it hurts our reputation"

and nissan, over the same sept, was up 16.2%

toyota increased sales 36.6%, chrysler grew 4%

ford, like govt motors, is down (4%)

but, bottom line, gm is in a unique position

Treasury: U.S. to lose $25 billion on auto bailout | The Detroit News

buy!

USA Today: Obama calls for a 'new economic patriotism'
 
The original article says they are replacing a plastic part that can crack causing fuel leaks. The part is more likely to crack in warm or hot weather climates. Since the part isn't already cracked when the car comes off the assembly line, that would tend to eliminate the likelihood of an error in assembly. Someone either designed a part that is defective or approved the use of an already existing part that was inadequate to the task. Would you like me to explain how a toilet works next?

Once again the professional class can't hold up its end and tries to blame the people who carry out their instructions.
Show me in the article where this occurs.

And no, I wouldn't trust you with the toilet explanation; no having a potty mouth doesn't mean you're qualified.
 
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