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Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

Connery said:
Can you provide pictures and hopefully blueprints.
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Good thought on the blueprints. After I read that this was the Muslim operational plan, I drove around and I have addresses in my own city. Try it in your city, you will be shocked at what you find. All behind locked gates, all with huge golden, spires and flags.
 
MMC said:
Actually we use to call the American ones Moslems. So you can save all your bs. I grew up around Muslims lived with and fought against them. For years and long before I ever joined Uncle Sams gang. I don't play with the terminology. But you can keep going on about after Islam became something. Not while it was just beginning. So Spin it any other way you want.
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You are just flat out wrong. A Muslim is any member of the Islamic faith. Islam and Muslim are the same root word, the Arabic word for "peace."

You are simply demonstrating your ignorance.
 
Ray410 said:
Good thought on the blueprints. After I read that this was the Muslim operational plan, I drove around and I have addresses in my own city. Try it in your city, you will be shocked at what you find. All behind locked gates, all with huge golden, spires and flags.
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I am sure with goggle maps you could a get a few pics and post the photos.
 
lizzie said:
It would really be beneficial to you, to read about the difference between Islam the religion, and Islamism the ideology. It's a common mistake to believe they are the same thing, but one is religious in nature, and the other is political and concerned with obtaining power on a grand scale.


History News Network
Is It Islamic or Islamist? - Newsweek and The Daily Beast
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Who is so ignorant as to not know the difference between the Islamic faith and certain extremist ideologies within Islam? Certainly not I. For crying out loud, that's what I have been saying all along.

I cheerfully accept your inadvertent concession.
 
Ray410 said:
Good thought on the blueprints. After I read that this was the Muslim operational plan, I drove around and I have addresses in my own city. Try it in your city, you will be shocked at what you find. All behind locked gates, all with huge golden, spires and flags.
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Better yet, just google Red House Va.
 
This is what the El Rukns Temple Looks Like today in Chicago In Chicago. Does it look like a Mosque?

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This is what the Muslims Gangbangers Temple use to look like in the Original Building.

The El Rukns were a gang of ruthless drug dealers and pimps operative between 1977 and 1990, who attempted to shield themselves from federal inquiry under the facade of a religious organization. Between 1985 and 1987, the gang even dabbled in international terrorism, allegedly traveling to Libya and meeting with agents of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi to offer their services as domestic terrorists in return for money and weapons.

Jeff Fort founded the El Rukns upon his release from prison in 1977. Most of the gang leadership were comprised of select members of the gang Fort led during the 1960s, before his stint in prison, the Black P. Stones. The name "Rukn" refers to stones or rocks in Arabic. In 1977, Fort purchased a building at this location, 3947 S. Drexel, to serve as the new gang's headquarters, which he rechristened the "El Rukn Grand Major Temple". Here is a contemporary photo of the building during its Rukn heyday:
 
Risky Thicket said:
Ah, but you are telling me that Randall Terry and Pat Robertson and James Dobson and Rowan Williams all practice the same religion? Are you saying that Nelson Mandella and Abu Hamza al-Masr practice the same religion?
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Your role here is as an apologist. You start off with the premis you must defend Islam, so offer false equivalencies, logical fallacies and obfuscation. You do not ask yourself "why aren't we seeing fundamentalist Buddhists killing over an insult to the fat man". After all, many Buddhists live impoverished lives and whatnot.

The apologists playbook follows a typical pattern, usually involving dishonest comparisons to other religions, most notably Christianity. If something is common in Islam, find something rare in Christianity and equate. If something is happening today in Islam, find something in Christianity from 400 years ago and compare the two. If something is truly horrific in Islam, find something merely objectionable in Christianity and compare the two. That's what people do when they have predetermined they must defend. Heck, one poster in the thread even indicated she wished to remain ignorant on the subject of Islam -- it sure makes it much easier to defend when you don't know anything.

Instead of indulging in equalences, you need to ask more questions. Which religion was started by a Warlord who was in the business of conquering other tribes and how did he use this religion towards that end? How does the language of this religion stress conformity, and what punishments does it contain for non conformity? How is the religion built upon the infallability of this warlord differ from those built around men of peace?

You simply aren't asking any questions at all, but merely indulging in this "they are all the same" cr@p that so many people indule in. Religions AREN'T all the same, and treating them as if they are does showe a lack of critical thinking skills.
 
Guy Incognito said:
You are just flat out wrong. A Muslim is any member of the Islamic faith. Islam and Muslim are the same root word, the Arabic word for "peace."

You are simply demonstrating your ignorance.
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Again you are demonstrating what you do not know about during the transition and the beginning of Islam. Although you can read all those links from your fellow Arabs and Muslims. ;)
 
Guy Incognito said:
Bigoted comments like this are not welcome.
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:lamo Not welcome by whom? You? Who the heck are you?

While not all Muslims are terrorist, at present, terrorists seem to be all Muslim....Like it or not fact is fact....
 
Mustachio said:
uh oh, the religion and political party listed on my facebook profile are taken from Dune. If I insult Islam, they would start a war with House Atreides! They would take back the spice, and whoever controls the spice controls the universe. May Muad'dib help us all.
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Considering the rather heavy-handed symbolism in Dune, that's not as wacky as you think.
 
MMC said:
Again you are demonstrating what you do not know about during the transition and the beginning of Islam. Although you can read all those links from your fellow Arabs and Muslims. ;)
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You can post links to things that are wrong, but it will not make you right.

Muslim and Islam are quite literally the SAME WORD. Islam is the infinitive, whereas Muslim is the participle.

To claim that one can be a Muslim without being an adherent of Islam is incorrect as a matter of definition.

But by all means, do not believe me. Tell everyone you meet what you think! I insist! :lol:
 
Guy Incognito said:
Who is so ignorant as to not know the difference between the Islamic faith and certain extremist ideologies within Islam? Certainly not I. For crying out loud, that's what I have been saying all along.

I cheerfully accept your inadvertent concession.
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Plenty of people are so ignorant, as they believe that any condemnation of Islamism is a direct condemnation of Muslims, as has been evident in this thread. You appear unable to differentiate the two concepts, as evidenced by your knee-jerk reaction toward those of us who value western democracy, and are willing to identify what the problems are, and confront those problems. Rather than defending those who would prefer to stifle our free speech, as Muslim extremists would love to see, we are willing to defend it, no matter what the religious identification of anyone is, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, or other.
 
MMC said:
This is what the El Rukns Temple Looks Like today in Chicago In Chicago. Does it look like a Mosque?
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It's important to be aware that the precepts of America's Black Muslims, which is Farrakhan's Nation of Islam, have nothing in common with the Middle Eastern Muslims at all. The Farrakhan Nation of Islam types use the same words and labels, but that and the encouragement of violence are literally all that they have in common with the Middle Eastern Muslims. It's like comparing apples and oranges and Farrakhan's nation of Islam group has no place in a discussion of the Middle Eastern Muslims that are determined to attack America.
 
Ray410 said:
It's important to be aware that the precepts of America's Black Muslims, which is Farrakhan's Nation of Islam, have nothing in common with the Middle Eastern Muslims at all. The Farrakhan Nation of Islam types use the same words and labels, but that and the encouragement of violence are literally all that they have in common with the Middle Eastern Muslims. It's like comparing apples and oranges and Farrakhan's nation of Islam group has no place in a discussion of the Middle Eastern Muslims that are determined to attack America.
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Thats a crock he advocates the Faith of Islam. Moreover they do need anything else to be in common other than they are Muslim and followers of the Same Faith. There is no bandying words. Let him Get up there and Speak out. As one thing is for certain. Muslims aren't listening to anyone else. Let him get up there when they are talking about Killing Americans. Let him be the one to tell them, open up their eyes to those so called religious leaders of theirs. See the Light before they rush into the fire.
 
MMC said:
Thats a crock he advocates the Faith of Islam. Moreover they do need anything else to be in common other than they are Muslim and followers of the Same Faith. There is no bandying words. Let him Get up there and Speak out. As one thing is for certain. Muslims aren't listening to anyone else. Let him get up there when they are talking about Killing Americans. Let him be the one to tell them, open up their eyes to those so called religious leaders of theirs. See the Light before they rush into the fire.
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Even with that distinction, nobody gets off the hook, their goals are the same. Farrakhan focuses on what he calls the "White Devils" advocating hatred and destruction of America.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Proof? I think what you have there is a very simplistic view. It might help if you studied asymmetric warfare: history, causes and purpose. List the number of countries that the US and the West have invaded, occupied, attacked and where nationals have been killed, wounded or refugeed and tell me "Terrorist behavior is not widespread, common, or accepted among Christians though." Be honest with yourself.
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Going to war is not a terrorist attack but the West isn't made up of Christian nations anyway.

It is not the same thing.
 
MMC said:
]Here they go again[/COLOR][/B].....now they said a Buddhist Posted a pic that insulted Islam. Do you think when thugs want to be bangers. They should be met by the same fire that those Bangers usually come back with? What should be done about Muslims that just can't accept tolerance. Thoughts?
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"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam".
 
Grant said:
"The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam".
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Uhm, I think they said that back like a couple thousand years ago.....looks like it was one of those prophesies that didnt come True. ;)
 
Connery said:
Once again the lawlessness that is inherent in this nonsensical destruction in the name of religion rears it's ugly head. These people do this in the name of their religion. Their religious leaders should exercise some control and responsibility in instructing their riotous members to ease up. Or the world's police organizations can just decimate these murderous creeps once and for all.
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On behalf of the worlds' police organization, I'm unsure folks really want us doing that.
 
cpwill said:
On behalf of the worlds' police organization, I'm unsure folks really want us doing that.
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Are you a spokesman for police organization's or is this your personal opinion? That was my personal opinion with regards to those the murderous creeps.
 
Connery said:
Are you a spokesman for police organization's or is this your personal opinion? That was my personal opinion with regards to those the murderous creeps.
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Parse that sentence.

"On behalf of the worlds' police organization, I'm unsure folks really want us doing that."

He is obviously talking about his own opinion, the preface is superfluous for comic effect.
 
Connery said:
Are you a spokesman for police organization's or is this your personal opinion? That was my personal opinion with regards to those the murderous creeps.
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:) It was tongue in cheek. US Military. World Police.


There is no "worlds police organization".
 
cpwill said:
:) It was tongue in cheek. US Military. World Police.


There is no "worlds police organization".
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In an internet forum there are many organizations real or imagined. Just wanted to see where you were coming from....:)
 
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