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Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

lizzie said:
And what has the vast majority response been to Christian radicals, here in the US. Widespread condemnation.

We don't try to excuse their behavior because of their religious beliefs. We judge them based on their actions.
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Widespread condemnation? Hardly. More like Widespread Denial!! I have only heard 2-3 Christians even ad mit that these Christian Terrorists ARE Christians. They claim a 'True Christian' wouldn't do such things. THAT my friend is denial. In fact MOST Americans aren't even aware of these groups because there affiliation with Christianity is kept low key and there actions aren't as publicized as Muslim extremists are. ANY terrorist, be they Christian, Muslim or Jewish is WRONG and should be condemned but do not condemn an entire race of people or an entire faith because of the actions of a VERY small group of radicals.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Like I said, true courage. It's easy to take the coward's way out and attack those you perceive to be your enemy. What is hard is forgiveness.
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As a quasi-pacifist, I don't attack first, but I do definitely respond in kind. You can forgive all you want. You can martyr yourself. I don't really care about your religion, anymore than I care about anyone elses. What you do in the name of your religion, if it causes harm to someone else, is what I care about.
 
Guy Incognito said:
I'm flatter you would think to look to me as a model of courage, but there are far better exemplars than myself.

Still, you could stand to immitate me in some respects. Like my tolerance of the Islamic faith, for example.
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Assuming are we. Flattening yourself over it too. Not to mention I doubt that a Warrior on the battlefield would look at you or any pacifist as a model of courage.

Now I might consider you so.....Should you stand up in front of 2 or 3 hundred Muslims to teach them humilty and tolerance. ;)
 
lizzie said:
The issue is not Islamophobia, or tarring an entire faith. The issue is about whether or not we (in western democratic societies) are willing to stand our ground, and preserve our freedoms, in the face of pressure to be politically correct.
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Exactly we are not running around and saying.....that Stuff don't mean anything compared to our religion or our Prophet. Which is that Dollar Bill(insert name of whatever Prophet erm I mean President ya likes) :lol:
 
MMC said:
Exactly we are not running around and saying.....that Stuff don't mean anything compared to our religion or our Prophet. Which is that Dollar Bill(insert name of whatever Prophet erm I mean President ya likes) :lol:
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I've believed, and have been saying for years, that religion and politics are but two sides of the same coin. :lol:
 
Guy Incognito said:
Let's use you own analogy to explain how absurd and wrong your position is. Mexican drug cartel violence is rampant. By your logic, ALL Mexicans are to blame. Doesn't make sense.
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Yeah, it's like blaming all Nazis in 1940 for Hitler, the holocaust and WWII. You can't lambast all Nazis in that time frame for the actions of the radicals. Same with the KKK. People so unfairly lambast anyone in the KKK when actually very few ever kill anyone. Even of those who attacked our Libyan embassy, most didn't actually kill anyone so it is wrong to call them all "terrorists." We should be very careful to stress we only meant the attackers who hurt someone. We must be fair to everyone. Sensitivity training should be the #1 priority of our military too, because their job is fairness towards others. :roll:

I don't fit in. I see world circumstances similar to the early 1930s. A massive group of poor people giving themselves a superiority status, declaring all the world is picking on them, rapidly arming and declaring the true enemies are Jews, gays and anyone who isn't one of them. Unfortunately, we have Neville Chamberlain as our leader. And, unfortunately, this time we are going to wait until the other side has nuclear weapons.

Maybe that is Obama's long term solution to global warming. Nuclear winter after Islamic summer and Islamic fall, Islamic spring now in the past.
 
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More mob violence.
 
Hairytic said:
While radical Christians may not be as violent at the radical Muslims now, they do have their violent members. People who have killed abortion clinic doctors, gays and muslims. There are radical Christians on the TV and radio calling for the killing of world leaders. A lot of the Christian activities are mostly passive aggressive. However, that is not the point. The point is, you can't blame all Muslims or all Christians for what their radical members do. It is dishonest and it solves no problems.
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Yes notice the differences in Numbers with those Christians that go after Abortion Clincs. Do you see mobs of them burning down everything in sight attacking others from other relgions like they did in Egypt. Rioting attacking police, Military troops, and each other.

Are you saying that Muslims have some sort of medical condition where they fall off into berserker mode and for some reason cannot be brought back down to reality.

Cuz I know a cure.
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MMC said:
Im not pointing a finger you are......Yet you forget Richard was forced to leave the Holy Land and was the 3rd Crusade. Did you forget about those Christians from Rome? Egypt? Was Nero Killing Christians in Rome? What about Ethiopia? I am not looking to split hairs over when Christians began or their Specific Groups. You Do understand That the Prophet Mohammad was killing Muslams before they became followers of Islam.....correct?

Have Muslims attacked in Russia and the Balkans? The Answer is yes. Europe, yes. Asia, yes. Far East, Yes. Middle East, Yes. US, yes but not mob action. Canada, Yes but not mob action. Central America and South America I have no stats on. But I doubt they would Riot in Mexico and Colombia.....knowing what would take place should they do so. Think the Laws there will prosecute them? What about the Drug Cartels what do you think they will do if they should even go after one Christian Church? Just One. What do you think happens if they should kill one Priest?
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Christians Before Rome? Ummm you do realize Rome was around 450 years PRIOR to modern Christianity right? As far as Christians before Jesus well that would have been the followers of Serapis who were called Christians BEFORE the advent of the followers of Jesus and the Leaders of the Serapean Faith were called 'Bishops of Christ' and they existed until after the time of Nero. The 'Egyptian Christians' that you refer to would have been followers of Horus ,Isis and Osiris who by the way WERE called Christians BEFORE the followers of Jesus were. And as far as Mohommed killing 'Muslims' before they became followers of Islam Yes there was quite a bit of killing done in the name of Islam during that time, just as Constantine and the Christian Church of the 3-5 Centuries killed countless thousands for not believeing in Christianity. And even made learning to read a crime punishable by death. Also to take a bath was condemned by the early church as was punishable by Either flogging or depending upon the locale...death as well. Islam doesn't have a corner on the Murder market. Christianity has done its share. In Fact during the Inquistions (not just the Spanish Inquistion) it has been estimated that between 900,000 - 1.5 MILLION people were killed by the Christian Church for being 'heretics'. We can sit here swapping who killed who and how many all day. I admit ALL FAITHS have a history of Murder and killing and violence to advance it's agenda. NONE of them are innocent on that front. But we no longer live in the Middle ages or the Bronze ages. We live ina more enlightened Society where murder isn't tolerated by the Vast majority of people. We have to condemn violence by any and ALL people regardless whether they are Muslim, Christian or Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. As far as Terrorists attacking Colombi and other countries where drug Cartels hold sway, well that's because most of those countries don't bother to interfere with the Middle East and their affairs. IF Colombia or Puru or Argentina decided to tell say, Hezbalah, what they should believe in and attempt to control their actions you better believe there would be attacks in those countries. So your premise is not only shaky it verges on the laughable.
 
Hairytic said:
While radical Christians may not be as violent at the radical Muslims now, they do have their violent members. People who have killed abortion clinic doctors, gays and muslims. There are radical Christians on the TV and radio calling for the killing of world leaders. A lot of the Christian activities are mostly passive aggressive. However, that is not the point. The point is, you can't blame all Muslims or all Christians for what their radical members do. It is dishonest and it solves no problems.
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While it is true that radical Christians have in recent times engaged in violence, some of it horrific violence, there is more use of the mob and terrorist attracks by radical Muslims to do so than radical Christians (but let's remember the Serbs). That being said, I will say this: I abhor any suggestion that moderate Muslims are not doing enough. They speak out against the violence and destruction regularly, but when they do, collective memory forgets those moments and continues to spout out the same tired accusations of moderate complicity.
 
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joko104 said:
Yeah, it's like blaming all Nazis in 1940 for Hitler, the holocaust and WWII. You can't lambast all Nazis in that time frame for the actions of the radicals. Same with the KKK. People so unfairly lambast anyone in the KKK when actually very few ever kill anyone. Even of those who attacked our Libyan embassy, most didn't actually kill anyone so it is wrong to call them all "terrorists." We should be very careful to stress we only meant the attackers who hurt someone. We must be fair to everyone. Sensitivity training should be the #1 priority of our military too, because their job is fairness towards others. :roll:

I don't fit in. I see world circumstances similar to the early 1930s. A massive group of poor people giving themselves a superiority status, declaring all the world is picking on them, rapidly arming and declaring the true enemies are Jews, gays and anyone who isn't one of them. Unfortunately, we have Neville Chamberlain as our leader. And, unfortunately, this time we are going to wait until the other side has nuclear weapons.

Maybe that is Obama's long term solution to global warming. Nuclear winter after Islamic summer and Islamic fall, Islamic spring now in the past.
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Your argumen is absurd. You want to equate the Islamic faith with the Nazi party?

An analogy to what you are ACTUALLY doing is equating all Germans to Nazis.
 
Hairytic said:
Christians Before Rome? Ummm you do realize Rome was around 450 years PRIOR to modern Christianity right? As far as Christians before Jesus well that would have been the followers of Serapis who were called Christians BEFORE the advent of the followers of Jesus and the Leaders of the Serapean Faith were called 'Bishops of Christ' and they existed until after the time of Nero. The 'Egyptian Christians' that you refer to would have been followers of Horus ,Isis and Osiris who by the way WERE called Christians BEFORE the followers of Jesus were. And as far as Mohommed killing 'Muslims' before they became followers of Islam Yes there was quite a bit of killing done in the name of Islam during that time, just as Constantine and the Christian Church of the 3-5 Centuries killed countless thousands for not believeing in Christianity. And even made learning to read a crime punishable by death. Also to take a bath was condemned by the early church as was punishable by Either flogging or depending upon the locale...death as well. Islam doesn't have a corner on the Murder market. Christianity has done its share. In Fact during the Inquistions (not just the Spanish Inquistion) it has been estimated that between 900,000 - 1.5 MILLION people were killed by the Christian Church for being 'heretics'. We can sit here swapping who killed who and how many all day. I admit ALL FAITHS have a history of Murder and killing and violence to advance it's agenda. NONE of them are innocent on that front. But we no longer live in the Middle ages or the Bronze ages. We live ina more enlightened Society where murder isn't tolerated by the Vast majority of people. We have to condemn violence by any and ALL people regardless whether they are Muslim, Christian or Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. As far as Terrorists attacking Colombi and other countries where drug Cartels hold sway, well that's because most of those countries don't bother to interfere with the Middle East and their affairs. IF Colombia or Puru or Argentina decided to tell say, Hezbalah, what they should believe in and attempt to control their actions you better believe there would be attacks in those countries. So your premise is not only shaky it verges on the laughable.
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Thats was nicely written but you started with the Premise of before Rome which no one said at all. ;)
 
I am aghast a the level of social acceptibility that bigotry against Muslims has apparently obtained. If the slurs being made against Muims in this thread were being made against ANY other religious group, people would be getting called out for hate speech. But somehow this hate speech is ok?? What the **** is going on in the world?
 
joko104 said:
Yeah, it's like blaming all Nazis in 1940 for Hitler, the holocaust and WWII. You can't lambast all Nazis in that time frame for the actions of the radicals. Same with the KKK. People so unfairly lambast anyone in the KKK when actually very few ever kill anyone. Even of those who attacked our Libyan embassy, most didn't actually kill anyone so it is wrong to call them all "terrorists." We should be very careful to stress we only meant the attackers who hurt someone. We must be fair to everyone. Sensitivity training should be the #1 priority of our military too, because their job is fairness towards others. :roll:

I don't fit in. I see world circumstances similar to the early 1930s. A massive group of poor people giving themselves a superiority status, declaring all the world is picking on them, rapidly arming and declaring the true enemies are Jews, gays and anyone who isn't one of them. Unfortunately, we have Neville Chamberlain as our leader. And, unfortunately, this time we are going to wait until the other side has nuclear weapons.

Maybe that is Obama's long term solution to global warming. Nuclear winter after Islamic summer and Islamic fall, Islamic spring now in the past.
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The KKK was/is a terrorist organization. To deny that is to deny what happened to a great many African Americans during Reconstruction and throughout the first half of the 20th century.
 
I am not going to bother with isolating the exact quote, its quoted in 110, but Mmc stated that one could be a Muslim without belonging to the Islamic faith. That is, of course, nonsense and betrays a deep ignorance of the subject matter we are discussing.
 
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MMC said:
Thats was nicely written but you started with the Premise of before Rome which no one said at all. ;)
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In fact you DID say and I quote" What of the Christians BEFORE Rome". Please read your own post.
 
Edit: I believe I misread that. Anyhow, off I go.
 
Guy Incognito said:
I am aghast a the level of social acceptibility that bigotry against Muslims has apparently obtained. If the slurs being made against Muims in this thread were being made against ANY other religious group, people would be getting called out for hate speech. But somehow this hate speech is ok?? What the **** is going on in the world?
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One would almost forget this threads about those muslims who find it rational to attack buddhists over a pic posted on FaceBook.
 
Djoop said:
One would almost forget this threads about those muslims who find it rational to attack buddhists over a pic posted on FaceBook.
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Wrong on both counts. This thread is about criminals who self identify as Muslims but are in no way representative of the Islamic faith.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Do you ever pass up a chance to make a cheap slur against the Islamic faith?

Islam is a religion of peace. Learn it.
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Yes -- I should be ashamed of telling the truth.

Why, oh why can't I learn to tell lies so all the cool kids will accept me?
 
Gardener said:
Yes -- I should be ashamed of telling the truth.

Why, oh why can't I learn to tell lies so all the cool kids will accept me?
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Your martyr schtick would be moving if the ideals you were standing up for were noble. As it stands you are defending remarks hat lumps an entire religion together with a handful of criminals, so you want to martyr yoursel for that cause... Just quit it wih the BS that you are standing up for truth, when you are standin up for unjustified prejudice.
 
Djoop said:
One would almost forget this threads about those muslims who find it rational to attack buddhists over a pic posted on FaceBook.
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Now, don't be bigoted, Djoop. Killing Buddhists is a peaceful act.

Learn it.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Your martyr schtick would be moving if the ideals you were standing up for were noble. As it stands you are defending remarks hat lumps an entire religion together with a handful of criminals, so you want to martyr yoursel for that cause... It says a lot about a person.
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and that tis what you get from my telling the truth about Mohammad's instructions on how to decapitate?

Have you ever considered rationality as an alternative to simply saying things because other people say them?
 
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