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Muslims Attack Buddhists Over Pic Posted on FaceBook.....

Having grown up Christian, with parents who took me to church every time the doors were open, I feel comfortable in saying that Christians actually feel sadness and loss when one of their adherents leaves the fold. They start reflecting on how it could have been a failure on their own part, and they wonder if there is anything they can do to help.

Having been raised the same way I understand. As with most people the world over I was expected to believe as my parents, my family, my friends, etc. believed. I'm here to tell you darlin' it is no walk through the park vocally disagreeing when your questions can't be answered satisfactorily. Before you realize it you succumb or you remain steadfast. Ain't easy to stand up and disagree. In fact, you are very much seen as being disrespectful to your parents and you are disagreeing with damn near everyone you know. Tell your church, family and friends next week that you cannot accept virgin birth, just for starters. Declare it. Think about doing it much, much earlier in life. Like when you haven't even reached puberty.

My doubt began, as I remember it, with reincarnation. Next was the garden of eden thing. Following that was virgin birth, I think. Somewhere in there was god being a "he". Did god have penis and balls like me? What did god do with them other than boffing Mary. That honest and serious question hurt, emotionally and psychologically. What was wrong with me that I asked such perverted questions? Why couldn't I just believe like everyone else? Well, I couldn't. I don't know why. I wasn't their fault. It was quite obvious to me that I was the one who was ****ed up because my beliefs were different. My parents, my family, my friends, my church was good and right and correct and I was wrong, terribly wrong. I couldn't get what was soooo easy for everyone else to see. Was there great lament among the parish when I left the church? LOL! I don't think so. It was probably more like relief. My experience, at one age or another, is probably more the exception than the rule.

I fell backward into Buddhism years later. Zen to be exact. I wasn't looking for anything and Zen wasn't looking for me. For the most part western Buddhism doesn't work that way. That's another story, but it fit. It works for me. I don't recommend it to anyone. All must find their own way. What the hell do I know about anyone else's spiritual needs? LOL!

Here's what I would share as a western Buddhist who has experience and understanding of two religions. They cannot realistically be compared from one perspective. I wasn't cognizant of that for several years, then I made the transition. Buddhist ethics are often different from Christian ethics. Better? No, just different. We often come to the same point from entirely different positions. It is not in my experience that Buddhist are worried or saddened that most people aren't Buddhists. Most Buddhists have no problem with people having two or more religions. Is that good or better? No. Here is the point, the perspective is often different.

When I first began practicing Buddhism I evaluated most of what I saw or heard or learned through a Christian perspective. That was the one I was most familiar with. Over the years my perspective has changed. Good? Better? No, different. I do know, however that it is most difficult to judge other religions from a single perspective.
 
For argument sake all religions are the same, but, the manner in which they choose to worship is quite different and varies from murder to simple prayers. That is where I take exception.


I agree.


For me there is no difference between Radical Islam who kill Ambassadors in Lybia or fundamentalists Christians who bomb abortion clinics in USA,


Nuts all the same. All scum.
 
All religions are not the same.

But all fundamentalist nuts..... are the same.

Fruitcakes all, left and right.

Mya, may I invite you to have many of my babies?

I completely and totally agree with you. Fundamentalism is its own religion. We have, unfortunately, many different sects of fundamentalism, but in all they are muuuuuuuuuuch more comparable to each other than the religions they falsely espouse. Taliban, Christiban, Buddhaban, Jewban and on a on. If it is fundamentally religious it is more similar to other fundie beliefs than it is to their espoused faiths.
 
I'm here to tell you darlin' it is no walk through the park vocally disagreeing when your questions can't be answered satisfactorily. Before you realize it you succumb or you remain steadfast. Ain't easy to stand up and disagree. In fact, you are very much seen as being disrespectful to your parents and you are disagreeing with damn near everyone you know. Tell your church, family and friends next week that you cannot accept virgin birth, just for starters. Declare it. Think about doing it much, much earlier in life. Like when you haven't even reached puberty.

I understand that fully, as it was the same for me, except that I could not imagine how a God would doom others to hell, for merely not having been exposed to Christianity. I understand well that religions are not all the same. They generally have a very similar set of moral concepts, and the Abrahamic religions share some prophets, but that's about the extent of it. Christians are not perfect by any means, as is no other religious group, but if you look at the history of how it spread with western democracy, in spite of the bloody history of the early Christians, it is clear that it is at least compatible with freedom. I have a religious nature, maybe because I was raised that way, or maybe it's just a part of my psychological make-up, regardless of my upbringing.

Whatever the case,
even with my religious impulse, freedom of speech is of the utmost importance to me, as I believe it is in our nature to express, create, and expand our minds, even if that expansion is not in necessarily positive directions, and when I see attempts to try and intimidate Americans into limiting our freedoms, I take great offense to that, especially when I see our own citizens seemingly support that, based in a fear of offending those who wish to see our freedoms become limited, because they can't handle criticism of their religious figures. I would take the same approach if it were any religious group doing the same thing. I do not back down from attempts at intimidation, no matter the source.
 
I understand that fully, as it was the same for me, except that I could not imagine how a God would doom others to hell, for merely not having been exposed to Christianity. I understand well that religions are not all the same. They generally have a very similar set of moral concepts, and the Abrahamic religions share some prophets, but that's about the extent of it. Christians are not perfect by any means, as is no other religious group, but if you look at the history of how it spread with western democracy, in spite of the bloody history of the early Christians, it is clear that it is at least compatible with freedom. I have a religious nature, maybe because I was raised that way, or maybe it's just a part of my psychological make-up, regardless of my upbringing.

Whatever the case,
even with my religious impulse, freedom of speech is of the utmost importance to me, as I believe it is in our nature to express, create, and expand our minds, even if that expansion is not in necessarily positive directions, and when I see attempts to try and intimidate Americans into limiting our freedoms, I take great offense to that, especially when I see our own citizens seemingly support that, based in a fear of offending those who wish to see our freedoms become limited, because they can't handle criticism of their religious figures. I would take the same approach if it were any religious group doing the same thing. I do not back down from attempts at intimidation, no matter the source.

Lizzie, may I invite you to have my babies? OK, at our age I should rephrase that: "Lizzie, may I invite you to have my grandchildren?" Somehow, I'm not sure that works. WTF, we can practice. :wink2:

Seriously, I hear you. Given the chance I'd prefer to live in a world where religion was not necessary. That, of course, is not possible. If I fully accepted Christian beliefs I'd be a Christian. If you fully accepted Buddhist beliefs you'd be a Buddhist. I do believe the coexistence of religions is possible, but not likely. Plan B? I don't have one.
 
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you sitting on the fence now?:confused::2razz:
 
No, sitting on the fence makes my nuts hurt. :eek:

Y'all can trust me. I'm not like the others.


Cool! but then...


Be clear! :) Say it clearly, fundamentalists of any religion are scum! Say it! ;)
 
Lizzie, may I invite you to have my babies? OK, at our age I should rephrase that: "Lizzie, may I invite you to have my grandchildren?" Somehow, I'm not sure that works. WTF, we can practice. :wink2:

Seriously, I hear you. Given the chance I'd prefer to live in a world where religion was not necessary. That, of course, is not possible. If I fully accepted Christian beliefs I'd be a Christian. If you fully accepted Buddhist beliefs you'd be a Buddhist. I do believe the coexistence of religions is possible, but not likely. Plan B? I don't have one.

I don't fully accept anyone's beliefs, besides my own, so we're good. :lol:
 
Cool! but then...


Be clear! :) Say it clearly, fundamentalists of any religion are scum! Say it! ;)

Peaceful, harmless fundies are pretty ok.
 
Radical Islam, yes. I would submit they are not really Muslims, but rather Islamists.

Muslims who behave like Christians are good neighbors.

Muslims who follow the Koran are fundamentalist.

Muslims who act on the words of the Koran are Islamists.
 
huh? what peaceful fundies? what is that??

Like Krishnas. They dance around a little, some instruments maybe, sell cheap nice food... no real harm. There's lots of wacked-out religious people that are not a problem in my book. Do you consider Witness and SDA to be fundie? They're pretty ok, they're not wacked-out.
 
Like Krishnas. They dance around a little, some instruments maybe, sell cheap nice food... no real harm. There's lots of wacked-out religious people that are not a problem in my book. Do you consider Witness and SDA to be fundie? They're pretty ok.



uhmmm.... I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. Islamic or Christians .... :(


they are totally nuts .... lunatics.... I don't like them.... :(
 
uhmmm.... I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. Islamic or Christians .... :(


they are totally nuts .... lunatics.... I don't like them.... :(

What about peaceful Buddhist monk fundies, are they bad? Peaceful orthodox Jews are scum?
 
uhmmm.... I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. Islamic or Christians .... :(


they are totally nuts .... lunatics.... I don't like them.... :(

Fundies are fine as long as they don't press it on other people. I'm all for people believing what they want to. Scum is a little harsh.
 
Cool! but then...


Be clear! :) Say it clearly, fundamentalists of any religion are scum! Say it! ;)

Sorry. I thought I was clear. Fundies of any religion are fundies, not adherents to their espoused religions. They are fundies. Scum? Not all. As I said earlier, terrorists and violent religionists come from fundamentalism much, much, much more often than they come from actual religions.
 
What about peaceful Buddhist monk fundies, are they bad? Peaceful orthodox Jews are scum?

noooooooooooo... they are good.... but when they become aggressive fanatics and put bombs on abortion clinics.... or they kill ambassadors because of a you tube film... that's when the craziness kicks in and that is unacceptable,
 
Sorry. I thought I was clear. Fundies of any religion are fundies, not adherents to their espoused religions. They are fundies. Scum? Not all. As I said earlier, terrorists and violent religionists come from fundamentalism much, much, much more often than they come from actual religions.

ummm ....ok
 
uhmmm.... I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. Islamic or Christians .... :(


they are totally nuts .... lunatics.... I don't like them.... :(

Oh come on... what about the Amish? No one can hate the Amish. They keep to themselves, don't bang on anyone's doors, don't recruit. They're awesome. All they do is pray and churn butter. Great people.
 
Oh come on... what about the Amish? No one can hate the Amish. They keep to themselves, don't bang on anyone's doors, don't recruit. They're awesome. All they do is pray and churn butter. Great people.


with all respect.... Amish is not my forte... don't know any Amish ... if they keep to themselves wherever they are its ok...isn't it...


I know no Amish where I live.....so ...


if Amish is quiet Amish is ok.
 
Oh come on... what about the Amish? No one can hate the Amish. They keep to themselves, don't bang on anyone's doors, don't recruit. They're awesome. All they do is pray and churn butter. Great people.

Until a couple crazy ones commit mass beardacide.

Those sick bastards.
 
I've never met an Amish person either. All I know is I'm a fan of super religious people who go and live away from everybody else and have no wish to bother us. Gawd bless 'em.
 
I've never met an Amish person either. All I know is I'm a fan of super religious people who go and live away from everybody else and have no wish to bother us. Gawd bless 'em.

Sweet people they are .... God Bless! :mrgreen:
 
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