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Chick-fil-A changes position

joko104 said:
Only the exact opposite happened, didn't it? They flocked to those businesses.
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For one day. Obviously that one day was offset by a steep decline in business that led to this decision.
 
jet57 said:
It was the owner of Chick-a fila who called a press confrence and made the anti-gay statement. He new exactly what he was doing.
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Link please.
 
Tigger said:
Well, they just guaranteed that I'll never be stopping in any of their stores.
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Me either....but it won't be because of their views....it will be because their food is nasty.
 
disneydude said:
For one day. Obviously that one day was offset by a steep decline in business that led to this decision.
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There is nothing obvious to it. Link to some proof of business decline if you aren't just transposing your own money-is-everything morality upon everyone else.
 
disneydude said:
Me either....but it won't be because of their views....it will be because their food is nasty.
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I can't say I've ever eaten at one (there aren't any currently in New England), but I will definitely avoid any I come across because of this change of viewpoint.
 
disneydude said:
Looks like that one day event didn't help Chick-Fil-A as much as the long term effect hurt them


Chick-fil-A agrees to stop funding anti-gay groups, Chicago alderman says | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

Chick-fil-A, the fast food chain that sparked a firestorm earlier this year after its president made public comments against same sex marriage, has agreed to stop funding anti-gay groups, a Chicago alderman says.

Joe Moreno, the alderman whose opposition of a proposed Chick-fil-A on Chicago's north side helped fuel the controversy, told the Chicago Tribune the company has pledged to include a statement of respect for all sexual orientations in a memo to staffers and has promised that the WinShape Foundations, its not-for-profit arm, would no longer contribute money to groups that oppose gay marriage.


Chick-Fil-A realized that bigotry was going to substantially hurt their long term profits.
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That was the right thing to do.
 
joko104 said:
There is nothing obvious to it. Link to some proof of business decline if you aren't just transposing your own money-is-everything morality upon everyone else.
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Do you honestly believe that they changed their position "out of the goodness of their hearts"? Come on! This is a business decision, plain and simple.
 
Tigger said:
I can't say I've ever eaten at one (there aren't any currently in New England), but I will definitely avoid any I come across because of this change of viewpoint.
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Good. That's the American way. Whatever your views....vote with your pocketbook. I subscribe every year to a publication called "Shopping for a better world". It ranks pretty much every chain business on their records on gender equality, ethnic equality etc. I use it all the time to determine where my dollars go.
 
"Chick-fil-A changes position"

They are trying something other than missionary?? amazing.



sorta bad joke, but it had to be done.
 
disneydude said:
Good. That's the American way. Whatever your views....vote with your pocketbook. I subscribe every year to a publication called "Shopping for a better world". It ranks pretty much every chain business on their records on gender equality, ethnic equality etc. I use it all the time to determine where my dollars go.
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Interesting. Do you get it online, or is it hard-copy. I might find that a very useful tool as well.
 
joko104 said:
Link please.
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So, you didn't see the thousand news stories where this guy made his anti-gay staement while standing ina chick-flla.
 
joko104 said:
Only the exact opposite happened, didn't it? They flocked to those businesses.
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They flockED.

Had they continued flockING, i doubt they would have changed their policies.

Which I'm sure offends their flock.
 
disneydude said:
I have found that most of those complaining about "infringements on their first amendment rights" are usually REALLY complaining about living with the consequences of their ignorant or bigoted speech.
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It makes sense. If everyone simply said what they were told, then they wouldn't look so fail.


Tigger said:
I can't say I've ever eaten at one
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You would avoid them to eat somewhere that never gave charity to such orgs?
 
Tigger said:
Thank you. I may have to pick up a copy of that, though probably for the opposite use that you have for it.
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that's ok....I support people making an informed decision on where their money is spent....even if they are polar opposite of me. I just personally think that it is the morally responsible thing to do. I hate spending my money on companies that turn out to be fundamentally opposed to things I believe in and vice versa. Knowledge is power and knowledge is a good thing.
 
ecofarm said:
You would avoid them to eat somewhere that never gave charity to such orgs?
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I would avoid Chic-Fil-A to eat somewhere that has supported the anti-gay rights organizations and/or that has not supported the pro-gay rights organizations.
 
Tigger said:
I would avoid Chic-Fil-A to eat somewhere that has supported the anti-gay rights organizations and/or that has not supported the pro-gay rights organizations.
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Assuming the comparable franchises have never given to anti-gay orgs, and that there are still those within the ChickFil organizations that carry such sentiment, why would you go somewhere that totally doesn't give a crap.
 
Tigger said:
I would avoid Chic-Fil-A to eat somewhere that has supported the anti-gay rights organizations and/or that has not supported the pro-gay rights organizations.
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Just out of curiosity, why do you oppose homosexuality? I mean, you do don't follow any religion. What is the reasoning for opposition?
 
ecofarm said:
Assuming the comparable franchises have never given to anti-gay orgs, and that there are still those within the ChickFil organizations that carry such sentiment, why would you go somewhere that totally doesn't give a crap.
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Because CkickFilA corporation has backed away from the stance, publicly. If I were a member of that organization I would be handing in my resignation after this announcement.
 
madman said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you oppose homosexuality? I mean, you do don't follow any religion. What is the reasoning for opposition?
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Morality, which I believe superceeds Religion.
 
Tigger said:
Morality, which I believe superceeds Religion.
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But where does your morality come from? I mean, it has to come from somewhere. The religious use their book. And it's very rare when non religious people object homosexuality.
 
Tigger said:
Morality, which I believe superceeds Religion.
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Dancing fairies in the woods near your house supercede reality; so, priorities are hardly relevant to the argument.
 
madman said:
But where does your morality come from? I mean, it has to come from somewhere. The religious use their book. And it's very rare when non religious people object homosexuality.
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I believe in a concept which I refer to as Universal Morality. Its basis is the common, core components of the successful per-20th century societies, which I believe form an almost instinctive level of Morality which we have not forgotten but chosen to ignore in the last century.
 
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