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Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law

This is probably a good idea. Clearly, the human species has evolved to an enlightened point beyond needing the ability to make it's own decisions regarding diversity of options in recreation.
 
Somerville said:
That may be your idea of the ACLU but it ain't what it does
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That was kind of the point; they pick and choose who deserves "fairness" and what is and isn't acceptable nowadays.
 
ChuckBerry said:
Neither the ACLU nor Mr. Brown have any business making declarations about the traditions of a high school in Rhode Island. It's cases like these that give the ACLU its well deserved bad reputation in public discourse. It's outrageous that such an innocuous tradition meant to celebrate the bond between father and daughter must be torn down in the name of "equality".

The ACLU worships the Constitution, not God, and cares about Christians only insofar as civil rights are concerned. The ACLU "supports" Christianity but has no respect for it. Ironically, the very abuse and marginalization of women that many on the left decry is prevented by such dances and other similar social traditions, so that girls who will be women will learn to expect respect and gentlemanly treatment, and immediately and with conviction reject anyone who would treat them differently. The proof of self-esteem comes not from what you can do, but what you won't allow others to do to you.

Dignity is word we need to remember.
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sorry, but this was the kind of tripe spoken in opposition during the early 60's when first JFK, and then LBJ, pushed for equal rights legislation
EQUAL rights are not more equal for some
 
Personally I've always thought father-daughter dances are creepy and I don't much care if they go the way of the dodo.
 
That's because you're inured to a society determined to destroy everything about masculinity, to the point that a father daughter dance isn't just exclusive, it also has to have improper overtones.

The perversion isn't the dance; it's the desire to end it.
 
ChuckBerry said:
That's because you're inured to a society determined to destroy everything about masculinity,
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:lamo

ChuckBerry said:
to the point that a father daughter dance isn't just exclusive, it also has to have improper overtones.

The perversion isn't the dance; it's the desire to end it.
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You don't think slow dancing has sexual undertones (what are overtones?)? Then, tell me, why don't you see straight men slow dancing together?
 
For the same reason you generally don't see straight men hugging...men don't require expressions of physical intimacy from each other in the way that women need them from men. The precise point of the father/daughter dance is to demonstrate to girls that they can get closeness/intimacy from a male without the necessary expectation of sex.

That masculine self-control and chastity are laughable concepts to some is disheartening to me. Girls shouldn't learn that the only reason a man wants to touch her is because he wants to bone her, and I certainly will not teach my daughters that.

ADDED: I hate to give credit to John Mayer for anything, but this line in the chorus of one of his songs is apropos of this conversation: Fathers, be good to your daughters. Daughters will love like you do.

Stop watching internet porn for a few months and re-orient your brain.
 
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They should clean out the warehouse at the grain factory, and go all Footloose.

I agree with the_recruit except I think what is even more creepy is the trend for "Father-Daughter Dates" in which a father is supposed to take his daughter on a date and show her the proper way a boy should treat a girl.
 
Taylor said:
Rhode Island schools ban father-daughter dances, says dances violate law - thestar.com

In response to a letter from the ACLU, the school district has apparently decided that father-daughter dances and mother-son ballgames violate Rhode Island's gender discrimination laws. Attorneys for the school district say that whereas federal law provides an exemption for these sorts of events, state law does not. The issue was brought to light when a Republican nominee for state senate said he would work toward making that change.

The ACLU, however, claims that it has nothing to do with state vs. federal law. They argue instead that father-daughter dances foster "blatant stereotypes" that should not be tolerated in this day and age:



Thus, they don't care so much about the Rhode Island girl who wanted to attend her father-daughter dance without her father - they're more concerned that a school district would go so far as to foster "outdated notions" by arranging a formal dance activity for girls and a baseball game for boys. Of course, they'd be equally unhappy about a father-daughter baseball game or a mother-son dance.

They didn't comment about what we're supposed to do about the kids who are equally averse to dances and ballgames. Perhaps they want to focus on destroying things one at a time.
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Very sad. We had bring your daughter to work day when I was younger which I'm guessing would be okay according to the ACLU because they were trying to get girls out into the workplace? No one really mentioned anything about the boys so I guess it's okay to be exclusive as long as you're not promoting the typical gender stereotypes. :confused:
 
ChuckBerry said:
For the same reason you generally don't see straight men hugging...men don't require expressions of physical intimacy from each other in the way that women need them from men.
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What? I do see straight guys hugging much more often than I see them slow dancing. I have NEVER seen straight guys slow dancing together. Let's take you for example. Would you ever hug a guy? Would you ever slow dance with a guy?

For me, the answer to the first is yes and I do hug guys. There are a couple of my best friends, my brother, and my father that I see only rarely - maybe once a year. When we do get a chance to see each other, we hug. We don't "require an expression of physical intimacy", it's a ****ing hug. But I have never and will never slow dance with them.

But who am I to judge - maybe you do slow dance with the guys in your life? :lol:

ChuckBerry said:
The precise point of the father/daughter dance is to demonstrate to girls that they can get closeness/intimacy from a male without the necessary expectation of sex.
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You're so full of bull****. That has nothing to do with father/daughter dances, you're just attempting to rationalize it. Father-daughter dances are NOT a learning experience for girls. Don't give me that ****. Are you actually trying to tell me that prior to the dance, all the daughters are thinking "jeez I can't get close with a male without having sex" and then after the dance they're all like "wow, turns out I can get close with a male without having sex! who knew!".

:lamo That's ridiculous. Girls are not stupid and father/daughter dances don't teach them any important revelations.


ChuckBerry said:
That masculine self-control and chastity are laughable concepts to some is disheartening to me. Girls shouldn't learn that the only reason a man wants to touch her is because he wants to bone her, and I certainly will not teach my daughters that.
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Huh? Self-control and chastity have nothing to do with anything we're talking about. I'm not opposed to father/daughter dances because I think fathers are having sex with their daughters. So I don't know where you're getting this.


ChuckBerry said:
ADDED: I hate to give credit to John Mayer for anything, but this line in the chorus of one of his songs is apropos of this conversation: Fathers, be good to your daughters. Daughters will love like you do.
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Please tell me you're not citing a ****ty musician's lyrics in your argument.


ChuckBerry said:
Stop watching internet porn for a few months and re-orient your brain.
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:lol: What! Yeah, that evil immoral porn has poisoned my brain. :roll: Who are you - the Taliban?
 
Fisher said:
They should clean out the warehouse at the grain factory, and go all Footloose.

I agree with the_recruit except I think what is even more creepy is the trend for "Father-Daughter Dates" in which a father is supposed to take his daughter on a date and show her the proper way a boy should treat a girl.
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:doh that is messed up
 
Deuce said:
Only if you're operating under the assumption that dating is somehow necessarily related to sex.
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I am operating under the assumption that dating and, and romance in general, is related to sex, yes.
 
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