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Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

That is the estimate from the US military

You may as well ask the Nazis how many they killed in WW2

It is NOT from the military,do a little research on the site before you make an assertion.
 
Like many leftists you have the inability to read posts with any comprehension. You've become a pest.

I read your words and interpreted them accurately. If you intended something else then the failure is on your part to present it as such. So with that along with you doing your typical generalization of "leftists" and liberals that you do followed with a personal insult to boot, I take it that you've concede the point. Have a great day.
 
It is NOT from the military,do a little research on the site before you make an assertion.

Perhaps you can do some serious research on this very important war crime and atrocity by the USA

The same analysis that was conducted by two researchers in the Milosovic trial was carried out in Iraq with an even larger sample size.

In the Milosovic case the USA was happy to accept the civialin death toll and in fact Milosoic was convicted upon this evidence been accurate.

The USA however just couldnt stomach the same analysis by the same two researchers when applied to US civilian death numbers in Iraq since they invaded in 2003.

Why do you think that is the case?

In any case, let's take your reliable figures to be accurate - lets say 100,000 Iraqi civilians were killed - is this a crime? Who will pay for these deaths? The case againgst Saddam Hussein was based upon the deaths of 140 prisoners.

Your level of hypocricy and refusal to accept the basic principle of Universality is breath taking to say the least

What would little baby Jesus think of your level of immorality?
 
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I see

So what do you think the USA has done over the past 6 decades that has led to so much hatred and US flag burning? Any ideas on that front?

(incidentally, I notice that the Bolivians are infuriated with the USA as well - apparently their ex leader is wanted for instructing his military to slaughter 64 protestors and the US is providing him with a haven in the USA. The US government refuses to extradite their favourite Sth American criminal dictactor - my my the web widens - I am not sure how long you can keep this up)

Would this include the Billions that were spent on humanitarian Aid. Also How may famines did Egypt have within those 6 decades? How many times did we feed ther people?
 
Would this include the Billions that were spent on humanitarian Aid. Also How may famines did Egypt have within those 6 decades? How many times did we feed ther people?

the US NEVER calls it Humanitarian Aid - they call it Foreign Aid - do you know why?

Approximately 75% of US foreign Aid is actually military and defense related - which goes into the pockets of US corporations anyway - lol

The rest goes to US corporations who get overpriced fat cat contracts to build bridges and infrastucture for US corporatons who are luting that nations resources without paying much local tax to the people.

Do you care to retract yur previous argument?

I am sure the Mubarak dictactor in Egypt enjoyed 30 years of US foreign Aid - I hear that the Egyptians are chasing about 70 billion dollars of Mubarak cold cash that he funneled out of Egypt into Swiss banks and off shore havens

US Humanitarian Aid - lol
 
the US NEVER calls it Humanitarian Aid - they call it Foreign Aid - do you know why?

Approximately 75% of US foreign Aid is actually military and defense related - which goes into the pockets of US corporations anyway - lol

The rest goes to US corporations who get overpriced fat cat contracts to build bridges and infrastucture for US corporatons who are luting that nations resources without paying much local tax to the people.

Do you care to retract yur previous argument?

I am sure the Mubarak dictactor in Egypt enjoyed 30 years of US foreign Aid - I hear that the Egyptians are chasing about 70 billion dollars of Mubarak cold cash that he funneled out of Egypt into Swiss banks and off shore havens

US Humanitarian Aid - lol

Yeah all that Humanitarian Aid that Comes from ALL those NFP's and NGO's......due to the lamenting, cries, and whines of Empty Stomachs. Notice how they don't ask for Catsup while Dining on those bullets.

Try millions upon millions of US TAXPAYERS DOLLARS given freely without any assistance from the Government. Course when you can show any others that give more. You just might have some ground to stand upon.
 
Klown, Do you believe in God and have you ever been to Waco, Texas?
 
Yeah all that Humanitarian Aid that Comes from ALL those NFP's and NGO's......due to the lamenting, cries, and whines of Empty Stomachs. Notice how they don't ask for Catsup while Dining on those bullets.

Try millions upon millions of US TAXPAYERS DOLLARS given freely without any assistance from the Government. Course when you can show any others that give more. You just might have some ground to stand upon.

I see from the data that the biggest recipient of US Foreign Aid is Israel who just took over the mantle from Turkey - interesting how the Aid was almost entirely composed of military items

I didnt realise that a person can eat a machine gun - you may be correct though - perhaps there is nutritional value in bullets and tank armour - I will have to check it with the World Health Organisation and the Red Cross

I will get back to you in early December on that one!

cheers
 
Remember, Obama went to Egypt to speak to a select few students at an Egyptian University

He also visited Egypt to vist his dear friend Mubarak - you know the dictactor that has been pocketing billions of dollars in so called US foreign aid so that he can oppress his own people and prevent democratic progress in Egypt

Funny how the USA supported Mubarak right up to the day he had to step down - then the US came out with a statement saying he had to step down - lol


No such statement for that great Saudi dictatorship or the tyranny in Bahrain


The Saudis are our friends.
 
The Saudis are our friends.

Havent you heard?

You dont have any friends left - even Israel is very annoyed at you now

And you are broke, so you cant even buy any new dictactors, oops, sorry I meant friends, anymore

good luck with the friend seeking!

(the Saudis are our friends - the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia -you certainly have nice friends)
 
I see from the data that the biggest recipient of US Foreign Aid is Israel who just took over the mantle from Turkey - interesting how the Aid was almost entirely composed of military items

I didnt realise that a person can eat a machine gun - you may be correct though - perhaps there is nutritional value in bullets and tank armour - I will have to check it with the World Health Organisation and the Red Cross

I will get back to you in early December on that one!

cheers

Again, you do know the difference between Money given to NFP's and the Difference between Government money.....Right? Do you think such would also come from those that came here from whatever country and they are doing what they can to help their people back in their country of origin that they are from? Oh and lets not forget all those Christian Organizations that go out of their way to give their hard earned money up for others that are not even a citizen of their own country.

That would also include most of these Muslim Countries that are Rioting and Protesting.
 
The Saudis are our friends.


Are they[/COLOR]? Should we accept that premise or just go with a reminder to them. Buisness.....Never personal!

Seems they can't figure it out. Perhaps you should look into what they have been putting out over the NET.
 
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A bunch is quite an understatement, don't you think?

So if the US had not interfered in Libya and Egypt do you think this would have happened?

Well, I don’t think any of the Abrahamic religions are “peaceful”. But I also don’t believe most believers in those religions, including the Muslims, are violent. Monday there was a somewhat violent protest at the US Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia. There were some Molotov cocktails and they clashed with the police. Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country in the world. And yet, in a city of millions, only 500 people were in the crowd.

I’m an atheist. Christians hate it when I attribute horrible things Christians have done to all Christians. So I don’t. Why the hell should I treat the followers of Islam any differently? If you are violent or call for violence then I have a problem with you. If you don’t, then we are cool.
 
Well, I don’t think any of the Abrahamic religions are “peaceful”. But I also don’t believe most believers in those religions, including the Muslims, are violent. Monday there was a somewhat violent protest at the US Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia. There were some Molotov cocktails and they clashed with the police. Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country in the world. And yet, in a city of millions, only 500 people were in the crowd.

I’m an atheist. Christians hate it when I attribute horrible things Christians have done to all Christians. So I don’t. Why the hell should I treat the followers of Islam any differently? If you are violent or call for violence then I have a problem with you. If you don’t, then we are cool.


How many were there over the Weekend. How many from last Wednesday? Also They blocked the Net, and Gmail. Also how did that work out in Afghaqnistan where they Protested all Military Posts?
 
Again, you do know the difference between Money given to NFP's and the Difference between Government money.....Right? Do you think such would also come from those that came here from whatever country and they are doing what they can to help their people back in their country of origin that they are from? Oh and lets not forget all those Christian Organizations that go out of their way to give their hard earned money up for others that are not even a citizen of their own country.

That would also include most of these Muslim Countries that are Rioting and Protesting.

Did the USA offer to at least pay for the coffins of the 1.4 million Iraq civilians that have been slaughtered since 2003

And while I have your attention - appproximately 90% of the Iraqi oil is in the hands of US corporations such as EXXON

Take a million with one hand and give out crumbs with the other -
 
How many were there over the Weekend. How many from last Wednesday? Also They blocked the Net, and Gmail. Also how did that work out in Afghaqnistan where they Protested all Military Posts?

Are you asking about Indonesia? As far as I know Jakarta and Medan were the only places that had protests in Indonesia. The one in Jakarta was the only one with violence. I don't have a problem with protests. I work at an embassy and have to deal with that all the time. Free speech goes both ways. I have a problem with VIOLENT protests and people commiting VIOLENCE. The Muslims not commiting or advocating violence are fine in my book and I refuse to lump them in with thugs.
 
Did the USA offer to at least pay for the coffins of the 1.4 million Iraq civilians that have been slaughtered since 2003

And while I have your attention - appproximately 90% of the Iraqi oil is in the hands of US corporations such as EXXON

Take a million with one hand and give out crumbs with the other -

You need to study up with what is going on in Iraq with their Oil Fields. Did you forget Maliki is Shia? Yes the Government's Chump Change cannot even be compared to the Wealth of the American People. Who makes more money? The American People or the US Government?
 
Are you asking about Indonesia? As far as I know Jakarta and Medan were the only places that had protests in Indonesia. The one in Jakarta was the only one with violence. I don't have a problem with protests. I work at an embassy and have to deal with that all the time. Free speech goes both ways. I have a problem with VIOLENT protests and people commiting VIOLENCE. The Muslims not commiting or advocating violence are fine in my book and I refuse to lump them in with thugs.

Have you worked for both Administrations or just with the Demo's? If the answer is yes then, Violence is the way of the World.....if not: the Demos and that which they fear most will never be exstinguished within Man. The Sooner they face that Stark Reality, they then might just quit crying when about such when people do go violent. Which then allows them to focus more on the real problems rather than using strawmen to defend their actions. So again if so and you are working for them. Take them the message.

Do you think Policy has anything to do with what the left is minimalizing these protests to be? You are aware Google shut down anything and everything about that video to those In Indonesia.....correct?

Also you see they got violent in Karichi in Pakistan? Then there is the fact of all the demonstrations that were held which did not target US embassies but US foreign Schools too.
 
Did the USA offer to at least pay for the coffins of the 1.4 million Iraq civilians that have been slaughtered since 2003

And while I have your attention - appproximately 90% of the Iraqi oil is in the hands of US corporations such as EXXON

Take a million with one hand and give out crumbs with the other -



I think you meant to say 1.4 gzillion Iraqi's slaughtered and 110% of the oil in the hands of Exxon.

(Actually, Iraq made its oil deal with China, but we all know you don't let reality get in your way of hating the USA).
 
Have you worked for both Administrations or just with the Demo's? If the answer is yes then, Violence is the way of the World.....if not: the Demos and that which they fear most will never be exstinguished within Man. The Sooner they face that Stark Reality, they then might just quit crying when about such when people do go violent. Which then allows them to focus more on the real problems rather than using strawmen to defend their actions. So again if so and you are working for them. Take them the message.

Do you think Policy has anything to do with what the left is minimalizing these protests to be? You are aware Google shut down anything and everything about that video to those In Indonesia.....correct?

Also you see they got violent in Karichi in Pakistan? Then there is the fact of all the demonstrations that were held which did not target US embassies but US foreign Schools too.

I have worked under the Obama, Bush, and Clinton administrations. Yes, violence is the way of the world but it shouldn’t be ignored. Nor should the violence of a few be held against the many.

I don’t think policy has much to do with most of these protests. With the possible exception of Benghazi, it is just Muslim fanatics lashing out over a perceived affront to their religion. Back in 2005 the fanatics acted out in a similar fashion and that was just over a freaking cartoon. And it wasn't the US. People who are attributing this to some sort of policy failure are over thinking this.

Google did not comply with the request for censoring. YouTube did block the actual video.
 
I have worked under the Obama, Bush, and Clinton administrations. Yes, violence is the way of the world but it shouldn’t be ignored. Nor should the violence of a few be held against the many.

I don’t think policy has much to do with most of these protests. With the possible exception of Benghazi, it is just Muslim fanatics lashing out over a perceived affront to their religion. Back in 2005 the fanatics acted out in a similar fashion and that was just over a freaking cartoon. And it wasn't the US. People who are attributing this to some sort of policy failure are over thinking this.

Google did not comply with the request for censoring. YouTube did block the actual video.

"Yes, we understand the First Amendment and all of this stuff," wrote Khalid Amayreh, a prominent Islamist commentator and blogger in Hebron on the West Bank. "But you must also understand that the Prophet (for us) is a million times more sacred than the American Constitution."

Were he in his native Egypt, Nakoula could be charged with "insulting religion," a crime punishable by up to three years in prison or could face the more serious charge of "upsetting national security," which carries a life sentence.

In America, the government can't even order that the video be removed from YouTube. All it can do is ask. And so far, parent company Google has declined, saying the video was within its guidelines for content. The company did restrict access to the video in certain countries, including Egypt, Libya and Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation.....snip~

Free speech, religion clash over anti-Muslim film - Yahoo! Movies


Are you familiar with the Islamist commentator/blogger? Do you think what he is saying reflects upon US Foreign Policy or lack thereof? Another point of contention would be the fact of the media not reporting all these small groups as the Administration likes to say. At such places as US Corporations and Companies overseas there. Again as I stated the Schools, and now throw in US Embassies and US Military Instalations.

Now that the Intel Has come out on what went down with the Libyan Consulate.....do you think Susan Rice and this Adminstration will be allowed to spin their way out of this? Kinda hard to demonize a faceless enemy on this one. Especially knowing the face that was behind the attacks.
 
I have worked under the Obama, Bush, and Clinton administrations. Yes, violence is the way of the world but it shouldn’t be ignored. Nor should the violence of a few be held against the many.

I don’t think policy has much to do with most of these protests. With the possible exception of Benghazi, it is just Muslim fanatics lashing out over a perceived affront to their religion. Back in 2005 the fanatics acted out in a similar fashion and that was just over a freaking cartoon. And it wasn't the US. People who are attributing this to some sort of policy failure are over thinking this.

Google did not comply with the request for censoring. YouTube did block the actual video.

We have the policy of "freedom of speech" . In that, that is our policy, then yes, it did affect the protests. Since almost any printed or video material can be found to offensive to someone, we don't restrict the publishing of "offensive" materials. The protesters seem to feel that our policy of allowing individuals to produce "offensive" materials that are offensive to Islam is wrong. However, if we extended "protection" to Islam, then we would have to extend the same protections for all religions. Some do not understand this and assume we would extend protections to their religion because of course, their religion is the right one, otherwise it wouldn't be their religion.

It has not helped that, at least in some areas, the Imams and others have been telling their followers that the movie was actually produced by the US and Israel, indicating that the governments sponsored it instead of the government just not censoring it.

I do not have a problem with the peaceful protesters either. I do have a problem with the security policies for our embassies and consulates in some of these area, especially unstable areas with a long history of violent protest against the US and in countries, like Egypt, where the government is not fully established nor does it have a adequate security force of it's own. In these cases, the US should provide our Embassies, Consulates, and other facilities with adequate security forces, with ROE that allows them to actually do their job of protecting the facility. That includes meeting violence with violence, something that we are better at. At locations where the local government is willing and able to counter the mobs, then by all means, let them. However, we should still have security forces in place, even in those locations, to do the job ourselves if necessary. A show of weakness or lack of resolve only encourages more to become involved with the violence. As far as disparity between participants, well, if they are dumb enough to bring a knife to a gunfight, they pretty much get what the deserve.
 
Freedom of speech it the enemy of tryannts and free discussion is the enemy of theocratic thugs. Of course they outlaw freedom of speech and freedom of religion. That is THE greatest weapon against them and the only real danger they have.

Obama and the media SHOULD have told them "go to hell" instead of apologizing, condemning freedom of speech, and asking the video trailer be censored and banned.
 
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