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Anit-American violence sweeps across 23 world nations

OldWorldOrder said:
Your posts?
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Then I cannot help you for your reading comprehension is at fault, not me.

To 'get their attention', right?
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No, the destruction of Mecca is to get their attention. Destruction of the mosques involved in launching, or supporting an attack upon Americans is just good policy.
 
Misterveritis said:
Do we need to go over the entire sordid history?

Why muddy the waters? Kill the one in front of you. Let that be enough for today.
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I don't know what thing means, Kill those who are anti-American?
 
Misterveritis said:
If your author cannot explain the core of the problem in the middle east in one paragraph then he does not understand the problem.

Until he understands the core of the problem he is just one more voice trying to sell a book.
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Okay, well that's actually very wrong. You can look up Ken Pollack if you want. I'm sure you won't.

The hilarious thing is that you don't even know what the book says, but you're trying to make a case against it. Why do you think that is?
 
Misterveritis said:
Then I cannot help you for your reading comprehension is at fault, not me.


No, the destruction of Mecca is to get their attention. Destruction of the mosques involved in launching, or supporting an attack upon Americans is just good policy.
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Well, that's just laughable. It will never be executed, because the government is not entirely filled with dunces.
 
Misterveritis said:
So when you read Adam Smith as he explains why some nations are wealthy you did not realize he was describing free market capitalism? How sad for you.
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That doesn't explain why the West rules as opposed to China.
 
zstep18 said:
So, if killing innocents is a necessary evil, why don't we just nuke the entire Middle East?
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The nuking of the entire area may not be nesserry and I would be not against it if they proved to be so implacable themselves as to invite extinction. I would use use nuclear weopons in a limited scenario for maximum pyscological effect. Nuclear weapons make a superior phycological weapon. I would also use gas weapons such as the pepper and cs gas and skin irratent mixes when we engage them conventionaly to complicate the logistics of their engagements by making them take into account hostile enviroments, and the possibility of us using lethal gas. We should stack the deck in our favor as much as possible. There is no such thing as cheating in war. When Johhny Jihad hides behind children that should not be a problem for us but an opportunity. An opportunity to strike fear into those around them for the safety of their loved ones. I am personally an adovcate of shooting hostages in ANY situtation. Again if we dont have too kill everybody we shouldn't. Just make it clear they cant hide behind sheilds. War idealy should be quick brutal, and vicous. Prolonging it only invites more causultie on BOTH sides.
 
OldWorldOrder said:
Okay, well that's actually very wrong. You can look up Ken Pollack if you want. I'm sure you won't.
The hilarious thing is that you don't even know what the book says, but you're trying to make a case against it. Why do you think that is?
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I have made no case against this specific author. I make the general case that if the author cannot explain the problem in one paragraph then he does not understand the problem.

As I do not have time to read even the books I already own why go after an author who cannot meet that simple qualification?
 
nota bene said:
No, leave Mecca alone. And Jerusalem and Bethlehem too.
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I agree.

Complete utter lack of logic to suggest that threatening to bomb Mecca would some how deter terrorists instead of emboldening them.
 
Strucky said:
I'm sorry,but this thinking does not conform to reality.Each attack on Mecca or a mosque will create more fanatics and more targets....They kill people over cartoons and cheaply made movies nobody watches....I think attacking Muslim holy sites would only make things much much worse.
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The reason that occures is not why you think. They DONT respect us. We have lost their respect. Respect has an element of fear to it. Fear of what you CAN do. The fear that you can make them PAY a price, a steep price. We must gain their respect not by groveling to them, but by standing toe to toe eye with them and not backing down. Make them KNOW that the price for aggresion is VERY painfull. Make them KNOW that when we are motivated that Barbarians will seems gentlemanly.
 
zstep18 said:
That is despicable.
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If you want there to be fewer hostages taken, then you need to make a very unsurvivable event. A if the hostage taker knows that his hostages dont matter, they wont take them due to logistcal reasons. If a hostage knows they WILL NOT be rescued, they will at the very least go down swinging, if they are lucky they will get free. It will also motivate them to not become one in the first place.
 
PirateMk1 said:
The reason that occures is not why you think. They DONT respect us. We have lost their respect. Respect has an element of fear to it. Fear of what you CAN do. The fear that you can make them PAY a price, a steep price. We must gain their respect not by groveling to them, but by standing toe to toe eye with them and not backing down. Make them KNOW that the price for aggresion is VERY painfull. Make them KNOW that when we are motivated that Barbarians will seems gentlemanly.
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Hitting religious sites will NOT make them stop,it will piss them off even more.
 
When it swept here in Sydney yesterday, the police let them have it!

Thanks God for the Australian police! :thumbs: there is no way here in Australia they are going to put up with that s***
 
PirateMk1 said:
If you want there to be fewer hostages taken, then you need to make a very unsurvivable event. A if the hostage taker knows that his hostages dont matter, they wont take them due to logistcal reasons. If a hostage knows they WILL NOT be rescued, they will at the very least go down swinging, if they are lucky they will get free. It will also motivate them to not become one in the first place.
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Sorry, that's still very, very despicable. You're advocating killing hostages. That is disturbing. Very disturbing.
 
Serenity said:
I agree.
Complete utter lack of logic to suggest that threatening to bomb Mecca would some how deter terrorists instead of emboldening them.
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I did not say destroying Mecca would deter them. I want to get their attention. Deterrence is not going to work.

But changing their culture can. And we begin by showing them that their god is either weak or does not exist.
 
Strucky said:
Hitting religious sites will NOT make them stop,it will piss them off even more.
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And how exactly would you gain their respect? Notice I said respect, not like.
 
PirateMk1 said:
And how exactly would you gain their respect? Notice I said respect, not like.
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You sure in the hell won't get it by hitting Mecca and mosques!!!
 
Misterveritis said:
I have made no case against this specific author. I make the general case that if the author cannot explain the problem in one paragraph then he does not understand the problem.

As I do not have time to read even the books I already own why go after an author who cannot meet that simple qualification?
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Who said he couldn't?
 
Strucky said:
Hitting religious sites will NOT make them stop,it will piss them off even more.
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Islam is a political-religious movement intended to move toward world wide domination.
Who cares if we piss them off. They must be defeated. Utterly. And then we shall have peace for a while.
 
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