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Its not over of course...Im sure it will be appealed...but these court cases will go on until next election at least
A Wisconsin judge has struck down the politically divisive state law that gutted collective bargaining rights for most public workers, the Associated Press reports.
Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled today that the law, which was championed by Gov. Scott Walker and Republican lawmakers, violates both the state and U.S. constitutions. AP writes that it wasn't immediately clear whether the law was suspended immediately.
Unions representing Madison's teachers Milwaukee city employees had sued to overturn the law. Walker survived a June recall attempt driven by unions.
Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions
I thought this already went before the Wisconsin Supreme Court?
yeah, i went and read the article. you gotta be friggin kidding me.It did on a separate matter. The Supreme Court ruled 5-4(sorta, it's complex) ruled that the method used to pass the law was not unconstitutional.
what relevance does this have to a thread about public sector unions
fascism is government control. this appears to be an attempt to derail the thread
c'mon squirein public sectors-unions have huge advantages. Why
Because often the unions are the masters of those bargaining "against them"
when I represented a company in a union negation the union was trying to increase its benefits but it was limited by two things.
1) what other members of the work force would work for
2) the health of the company
and I as the rep for management was bargaining for the best interest of management
however, in the public sector
the tax payers are on the hook to pay the public sector contracts
but the tax payers and the parents (in the case of teachers) are not properly represented at the bargaining table
in strong union areas the politicians are often elected with the help of the unions and are more beholden to the unions than the taxpayers.
there is no constitutional right to a public sector union
public employees do not relinquish their Constitutional rights when they accept jobs in government
which means public sector employees have as much right to union representation as private sector employees
fascinating. why has no federal judge issued a similar ruling against the federal government, which currently does not allow it's employees to unionize?
really. you mean i have been an official of the American Federation of Government Employees since 1985 and all that time the folks in the federal sector i was representing had no rights to union representation?
that $7.6 million overtime settlement we distributed last year must have been vapor
I thought this already went before the Wisconsin Supreme Court?
That was another aspect they were fighting....I believe....this fight will rage on and it wont help the GOP in the long run
now this is the way i like to start my saturday morning, with good news!!!Its not over of course...Im sure it will be appealed...but these court cases will go on until next election at least
A Wisconsin judge has struck down the politically divisive state law that gutted collective bargaining rights for most public workers, the Associated Press reports.
Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled today that the law, which was championed by Gov. Scott Walker and Republican lawmakers, violates both the state and U.S. constitutions. AP writes that it wasn't immediately clear whether the law was suspended immediately.
Unions representing Madison's teachers Milwaukee city employees had sued to overturn the law. Walker survived a June recall attempt driven by unions.
Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions
nah. the math is on the side of the GOP here, same with entitlement reform.
Judge strikes down Wis. law limiting union rights - Houston Chronicle
I think that chances are good that this ruling will be overturned on appeal. It doesn't make sense that the state can grant rights to unions through legislation but then can't take them away through legislation.
The numbers are on the side of the voters
public employees do not relinquish their Constitutional rights when they accept jobs in government
which means public sector employees have as much right to union representation as private sector employees
but since you insist you are a lawyer, give us the legal basis which excludes the public employees from retaining their Constitutional rights of assembly
public employees do not relinquish their Constitutional rights when they accept jobs in government
which means public sector employees have as much right to union representation as private sector employees
but since you insist you are a lawyer, give us the legal basis which excludes the public employees from retaining their Constitutional rights of assembly
government workers have no right beyond the authority to petition congress... a right available to every citizen.
why do you feel government workers should be possessing of rights and authority not available to every citizen?
no one said federal workers should possess rights not available to civilians
but neither should they be deprived of Constitutional rights only because they are public workers
I agree... which is why I support the eradication of public sector unions... and do not support the the eradication of the right to petition congress for redress of grievances.
Its not over of course...Im sure it will be appealed...but these court cases will go on until next election at least
A Wisconsin judge has struck down the politically divisive state law that gutted collective bargaining rights for most public workers, the Associated Press reports.
Dane County Circuit Judge Juan Colas ruled today that the law, which was championed by Gov. Scott Walker and Republican lawmakers, violates both the state and U.S. constitutions. AP writes that it wasn't immediately clear whether the law was suspended immediately.
Unions representing Madison's teachers Milwaukee city employees had sued to overturn the law. Walker survived a June recall attempt driven by unions.
Wis. judge strikes down law crippling public unions
Even the voters do not have the option to turn off reality. But as I recall the voters of Wisconsin had their chance to comment on Scott Walkers reforms when he was put up for a recall election .