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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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Before I was mad. Now I'm pissed.


Libyan officials said Wednesday that U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens was among four Americans killed in an attack by Muslim protesters on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi the previous evening.

"I do condemn the cowardly act of attacking the US consulate and the killing of Mr Stevens and the other diplomats," Deputy Prime Minister Mustafa Abushagur said on his Twitter account. "Amb. Stevens was a friend of Libya and we are shocked at the attacks on the U.S. consulate."


Abushagur said in a subsequent tweet: "I condemn these barbaric acts in the strongest possible terms. This is an attack on America, Libya and free people everywhere."...


The U.S. Embassy in Libya, in the capital city of Tripoli, would say Wednesday only that officials were still gathering information on the attack in Benghazi, which an official called an "intense battle".



Wanis al-Sharef, an Interior Ministry official in Benghazi, said a total of four Americans were killed when the angry mob, which gathered to protest a U.S.-made film that ridicules Islam's Prophet Muhammad, fired guns and burned down the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.



Good on the Libyan government for not trying to either quietly ignore or appease these thugs. Looking at you, Egypt.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Just another reason that our political policy should be.....

ISOLATIONISM
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Just another reason that our political policy should be.....

ISOLATIONISM


Yea! become like North Korea!.. poor and paranoid!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Yea! become like North Korea!.. poor and paranoid!

Political Isolationism versus Social Isolationism...seems like a pretty big difference to me.
 
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Yeah I was just about to throw this up. Good Catch CP.
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That it was the US Ambassador Stevens. Plus 3 others now. Also there are still missing people. What really makes this bad is Libya really doesnt have an Army per say.

All of this has been sparked by that movie. Which was actully shown last year. But because it bombed at the box office they released it on U-Tube. Where guess, who picked it up. Which is what Jones wanted anyways. Plus now they have discovered the Producer was an Israeli who now has gone into hiding. This is far from being over with now.

Still it is an American Ambassador. They Fired a RPG into the building. US property has been destroyed and now more than one life lost. Plus others hiding and trying to find some place safe. Hope none are women. Again the Libyans have none that can go after these thugs.
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I have heard nothing about getting the rest of our people out. Nor for other American to get out of that country. This Sunny Sheik should be brought before us.....IMMEDIATELY! Since he is an EGYPT at his MOSQUE.The Egyptians should be busting in that door and and bringing him to answer his call.
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Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Political Isolationism versus Social Isolationism...seems like a pretty big difference to me.

Cant have political isolationism without social isolationism.. or economic isolationism. Either you are a part of the world or you are not.
 
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Yeah I was just about to throw this up. Good Catch CP.
icon_thumright.gif
That it was the US Ambassador Stevens. Plus 3 others now. Also there are still missing people. What really makes this bad is Libya really doesnt have an Army per say.

All of this has been sparked by that movie. Which was actully shown last year. But because it bombed at the box office they released it on U-Tube. Where guess, who picked it up. Which is what Jones wanted anyways. Plus now they have discovered the Producer was an Israeli who now has gone into hiding. This is far from being over with now.

Still it is an American Ambassador. They Fired a RPG into the building. US property has been destroyed and now more than one life lost. Plus others hiding and trying to find some place safe. Hope none are women. Again the Libyans have none that can go after these thugs.
cussing.gif


I have heard nothing about getting the rest of our people out. Nor for other American to get out of that country. This Sunny Sheik should be brought before us.....IMMEDIATELY! Since he is an EGYPT at his MOSQUE.The Egyptians should be busting in that door and and bringing him to answer his call.
voodoo.gif

Terry Jones was NOT involved.. The film maker is Sam Bacile, an Israeli.. who KNEW the film would set off riots.

Sam Bacile, Anti-Islam Filmmaker, In Hiding After Protests

Though Bacile was apologetic about the American who was killed as a result of the outrage over his film, he blamed lax embassy security and the perpetrators of the violence.

"I feel the security system (at the embassies) is no good," said Bacile. "America should do something to change it."

A consultant on the film, Steve Klein, said the filmmaker is concerned for family members who live in Egypt. Bacile declined to confirm.

Klein said he vowed to help Bacile make the movie but warned him that "you're going to be the next Theo van Gogh." Van Gogh was a Dutch filmmaker killed by a Muslim extremist in 2004 after making a film that was perceived as insulting to Islam.

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen," Klein said.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

2012-09-12T013221Z_1_CBRE88B04A000_RTROPTP_2_CNEWS-US-EGYPT-USA-PROTEST.JPG


Yeah I was just about to throw this up. Good Catch CP.
icon_thumright.gif
That it was the US Ambassador Stevens. Plus 3 others now. Also there are still missing people. What really makes this bad is Libya really doesnt have an Army per say.

All of this has been sparked by that movie. Which was actully shown last year. But because it bombed at the box office they released it on U-Tube. Where guess, who picked it up. Which is what Jones wanted anyways. Plus now they have discovered the Producer was an Israeli who now has gone into hiding. This is far from being over with now.

Still it is an American Ambassador. They Fired a RPG into the building. US property has been destroyed and now more than one life lost. Plus others hiding and trying to find some place safe. Hope none are women. Again the Libyans have none that can go after these thugs.
cussing.gif


I have heard nothing about getting the rest of our people out. Nor for other American to get out of that country. This Sunny Sheik should be brought before us.....IMMEDIATELY! Since he is an EGYPT at his MOSQUE.The Egyptians should be busting in that door and and bringing him to answer his call.
voodoo.gif

While I agree that those who did all this mess should be punished.... those that started the whole mess should also.... shouting fire in a packed theatre and then starting the fire is illegal.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Terry Jones was NOT involved.. The film maker is Sam Bacile, an Israeli.. who KNEW the film would set off riots.

Sam Bacile, Anti-Islam Filmmaker, In Hiding After Protests

Though Bacile was apologetic about the American who was killed as a result of the outrage over his film, he blamed lax embassy security and the perpetrators of the violence.

"I feel the security system (at the embassies) is no good," said Bacile. "America should do something to change it."

A consultant on the film, Steve Klein, said the filmmaker is concerned for family members who live in Egypt. Bacile declined to confirm.

Klein said he vowed to help Bacile make the movie but warned him that "you're going to be the next Theo van Gogh." Van Gogh was a Dutch filmmaker killed by a Muslim extremist in 2004 after making a film that was perceived as insulting to Islam.

"We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen," Klein said.

Terry Jones is involved, maybe not directly but reports state that he might be involved in financing and distribution.

Now personally I would want Google to pull the video from YouTube. They pull jihadist crap, so why not this crap.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Cant have political isolationism without social isolationism.. or economic isolationism. Either you are a part of the world or you are not.

America was very good at being policical isolationists without sacraficing our social or economic positions in the world pre WWII. Think we can do that again.

Furthermore, we can participate on the world stage through the UN. We do not need to be their spear and shield anymore though.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

America was very good at being policical isolationists without sacraficing our social or economic positions in the world pre WWII. Think we can do that again.

LOL get a grip. The US was not really isolationist pre WW2.. it was just a not a major power or considered as such. Its military was pathetic and its influence over world affairs up to 1918 was poor and only gained some traction after WW1 because of in part the decline of the British Empire. The US "rise" can almost be directly correlated with the decline of the British Empire.... they passed each other around 1939-44. After that the US was the big "dick" on the field, taking over from the previous "big dick".. the British Empire.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Sure seems to be a lot of Dhimmi like thinking going around....
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So are attacks like this the flowers we can expect from the Arab Spring?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

While I agree that those who did all this mess should be punished.... those that started the whole mess should also.... shouting fire in a packed theatre and then starting the fire is illegal.

I call bull**** on your bull****.

Unless someone can point to something in the film that's explicitly illegal, I'm going to go ahead and place 100% of the blame on the idiots who perpetrated the murder.

In fact, even if you can identify something illegal in the film, I'm still going to place 100% of the blame on the people who stormed an embassy and killed an ambassador; they had nothing to do with the movie.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So are attacks like this the flowers we can expect from the Arab Spring?

"Arab Spring" = Code for Caliphate.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Terry Jones is involved, maybe not directly but reports state that he might be involved in financing and distribution.

Now personally I would want Google to pull the video from YouTube. They pull jihadist crap, so why not this crap.

You're Right.....He was responsible for getting it up on U-Tube. As they showed the movie last June and it bombed.
 
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Obama just pissed off Israel (snubbing Netanyahu) and ONLY condemned the death of a US ambassador within days. His foreign policy abilities are on full display. Bush would have embraced Israel and had an aircraft carrier on its way.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

"Arab Spring" = Code for Caliphate.

That's actually why I'm a fan of the Arab Spring. They want a religious war - let's give it to them before Sequestration takes full effect.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I call bull**** on your bull****.

Unless someone can point to something in the film that's explicitly illegal, I'm going to go ahead and place 100% of the blame on the idiots who perpetrated the murder.

In fact, even if you can identify something illegal in the film, I'm still going to place 100% of the blame on the people who stormed an embassy and killed an ambassador; they had nothing to do with the movie.

Cry me river. The film is made for one reason only.. provocation of the Islamic world.. it is made to spark protests and riots.. pure and simple. You can cry free speech all you want, but the persons involved in this movie are just as much to blame as the radical morons who carried out the violence in Egypt and Libya.

Even in your own country, not being directly involved in a murder does not excuse you if you knew that the actions would result in deaths or violence.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

America was very good at being policical isolationists without sacraficing our social or economic positions in the world pre WWII. Think we can do that again.

What? Dude, we've been bloody imperialists since we were founded. War and trade are the two things we are really good at.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Cry me river. The film is made for one reason only.. provocation of the Islamic world.. it is made to spark protests and riots.. pure and simple. You can cry free speech all you want, but the persons involved in this movie are just as much to blame as the radical morons who carried out the violence in Egypt and Libya.

Ah yes. The "she was dressed that way so she wanted to be raped" argument.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Ah yes. The "she was dressed that way so she wanted to be raped" argument.

Having people working against your efforts is pretty crappy IMO.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Ah yes. The "she was dressed that way so she wanted to be raped" argument.

Hardly..

Like it or not the movie is a provocation, they knew what the reaction would be and they wanted that reaction. They have complicity in the reaction to their actions.. pure and simple.
 
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Hmmmm....

I wonder where those "thugs" got their rockets.

Didn't the U.S. among others give them a whole lot of ordnance not too long ago?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Hardly..

Like it or not the movie is a provocation, they knew what the reaction would be and they wanted that reaction. They have complicity in the reaction to their actions.. pure and simple.

1. You have any evidence whatsoever that the filmakers wanted US dead?
2. And no, not hardly.
 
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