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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

They are legion. You think that Janet Jackson exposing a glimpse of her titty would cause a national outcry and scandal anywhere in western Europe? And here, on this very site, posting a picture of nudity of any kind is a bannable offence. That is censorship.
If we're talking free speech rights, neither are examples of "artistic representations of sexuality banned in the US." The policy regarding nude pictures on this site is the decision of the owner. And, despite all the "outcry and scandal" over Janet Jackson - the broadcast was legal. With respect to "artistic sexuality," people in the US may be more conservative than those in many European countries, but that doesn't mean the law itself is necessarily more conservative.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Thanks Resident Obama.

Resident instead of president. hahaha Birthers live on!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

If you sent Dick Cheney to Iran, he'd get beheaded for being dangerously liberal!
Okay, I'm starting a PayPal account to buy Dick a ticket if anyone wants to donate to the fund.

P.S. Iran doesn't use beheading as a form of execution. You may be thinking of Saudi.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

No question that it was intended to provoke Muslims.

Perhaps it was intended to show people what the Muslim religion is really about, like the South Park episode about Mormons.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Resident instead of president. hahaha Birthers live on!

Not a birther. I could care less if he was born in a trash can BEHIND the White House.

I just think He's just a fraud and I prefer to call him a Resident instead of a President. He doesn't derserve the title.

MRA
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I'm sure you right about that, but it doesn't change the fact that they hate us for it. It's pretty typical to hate what you want, but can't have.

I don't know where you got the idea that people hate you but if this lie is repeated often enough i suppose, in some peoples minds, it becomes true.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

No question that it was intended to provoke Muslims.

and of course, the assumption being that Muslims are children incapable of any self control, so OF COURSE they react to this by murdering innocent people. The fault, then, lies with those who do not treat them as children by protecting their delicate sensibilities, even as they, themselves, produce an absolutely hideous amount of hateful bile directed against Jews, Christians and others. As we all know, to hold Muslims to the same standards as these Jews, Christians and others is just downright racist, and so we must promote these incredible double standards where Muslims are held accountable for nothing, and we treat them with kid gloves because we see them as such savages that they couldn't possibly be expected to act in any way but violence to offenses against their religion.

Tolerance is strictly a one way street, since we all know that when people kill for their religion, they should be tolerated for it, but any expectation that they should show tolerance for other faiths or lack thereof is a sign of intolerance, itself!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Okay, I'm starting a PayPal account to buy Dick a ticket .

There goes my dyslexia again.

The first time I read this, I thought it said "I'm starting a PayPal account to buy a Dick ticket".
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Yes, arrogance is clearly an exclusively American trait. :D

Whereas the Europeans embrace humility. And they have much to be humble about.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I don't know where you got the idea that people hate you but if this lie is repeated often enough i suppose, in some peoples minds, it becomes true.

Really, Godwin?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Not a birther. I could care less if he was born in a trash can BEHIND the White House.

I just think He's just a fraud and I prefer to call him a Resident instead of a President. He doesn't derserve the title.

MRA

Clint Eastwood says President Obama is greatest hoax ever. It takes millions of super hoax people to vote for a hoax president.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Clint Eastwood says President Obama is greatest hoax ever. It takes millions of super hoax people to vote for a hoax president.

The characters Eastwood has played, on the other hand, are totally real.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I understand that, but it still doesn't change our image around the world as greedy, fat, decadent Americans.

Well, the good news is President Obama is doing everything he can to keep us from being Fat and decadent.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Why is it there are no Sunni Leading Clerics at these Demonstrations and or Protests.....Reading their Holy Book and Preaching the Word. Just what does that Quran say about attacking innocent people? What does that Good Book say about bringing an affront to another?

There is no Righteous ground that is being stood on by Muslims Religious Leaders when they sit back and do nothing. Other than Biznitch about Shiznit halfway across the World.

Ya knows, I could even see them getting upset if the Movie Was put out in their City or something. I mean that Theatre would be taking a chance Right. But for someone else's actions across the planet. Where they don't even live in such an environment. Nor is even in their own countries. To even be used as an excuse is Ludicris.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The characters Eastwood has played, on the other hand, are totally real.

Would that include his time as a Mayor of some small town out West Coast?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

This is a sad and disturbing day. On the anniversary of 9/11, America is once again under assault by the Muslim jihad. U.S. embassies were attacked and our citizens killed by radical Islamic extremists while our own Embassy in Egypt apologized for any offense a private movie may have caused to Muslims.

And where was our President?

He was silent. All yesterday. Nothing.

Ok, Romney.....be careful NP or you will sound as foolish as he did.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It's funny -- here you have a stupid film created by some absolute nobody that wouldn't have seen the light of day weren't it to be a convenient excuse to murder. Meanwhile, similar movies demonizing Jews are plentiful, and broadcast though actual state media in Arab country after Arab country, embraced by large majorities, and the same dunderheads on their high horse over this one stupid, obscure movie will never EVER object in even the slightest.

THe patent hypocrisy of the mindlessly politically correct astounds me, sometimes.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I don't know where you got the idea that people hate you but if this lie is repeated often enough i suppose, in some peoples minds, it becomes true.

Who said people hate me personally? It was an observation about the reputation of Americans in general.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Would that include his time as a Mayor of some small town out West Coast?

Ah, yes, Carmel by the sea, how could I forget that one? Well, obviously, we need to elect Dirty Har... I mean Clint Eastwood to the white house.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It's funny -- here you have a stupid film created by some absolute nobody that wouldn't have seen the light of day weren't it to be a convenient excuse to murder. Meanwhile, similar movies demonizing Jews are plentiful, and broadcast though actual state media in Arab country after Arab country, embraced by large majorities, and the same dunderheads on their high horse over this one stupid, obscure movie will never EVER object in even the slightest.

THe patent hypocrisy of the mindlessly politically correct astounds me, sometimes.

It's because to them, a film has the imprimatur of the government. Mostly because all the movies there are like that. In that mindset, this is the USA insulting their religion. It's easy for us to say, "Well, some asshole made a dumb movie, but he has a right to his point of view" because that's what it's like here. Anybody with a video camera can make any movie they want to here. There, the government clamps down on you if you do anything that's not their view of reality.

Meanwhile the patent hypocrisy of the "whatever is politically correct, I do the opposite" crowd is on full view here. It always gets turned into how persecuted Christians and Jews are, and fomenting a "holy war" because you don't like their "holy war."
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Who said people hate me personally? It was an observation about the reputation of Americans in general.

It was not directed at you personally but your belief that Americans in general are hated. Apart from western Europeans, in general, I don't believe that's true.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It's because to them, a film has the imprimatur of the government. Mostly because all the movies there are like that. In that mindset, this is the USA insulting their religion. It's easy for us to say, "Well, some asshole made a dumb movie, but he has a right to his point of view" because that's what it's like here. Anybody with a video camera can make any movie they want to here. There, the government clamps down on you if you do anything that's not their view of reality.

Meanwhile the patent hypocrisy of the "whatever is politically correct, I do the opposite" crowd is on full view here. It always gets turned into how persecuted Christians and Jews are, and fomenting a "holy war" because you don't like their "holy war."


No, it is a matter of degree and prevalence.To speak out only in one direction while ignoring that which is magnitudes more prevalent (and sanctioned) in the other is the height of hypocrisy. It may be motivated by the desire to avoid the appearance of racism, but is racist in and of itself, because of the enormous double standards.

Having consistent standards is not "doing the opposite" of the politically correct so much as it is avoiding the mindless dogmatism that demands the double standards. I am neither Christian nor Jew, so I am not motivated by a sense of group identity. I simply get fed up with all the b.s. by those who have simply predetermined they must toss out nothing but apologia whenever the discussion centers around the behavior of Islamists.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

That is incorrect.

There are approximatley 110,000 US millitary personell still operational in Iraq

In addition there are over 150,000 private US security personell - largely funded by the US tax payer, that are there to protect US interests - and by US interests I mean PRIVATE CORPORATE interests

Also, the so called US embassy in Bagdad has approximately 15,000 personell within its boundaries - most of whom are military and intelligence people. And this embassy has 600 buildings in it - a bit of an overkill dont you think, just to cater for the US tourist in Iraq who may need a new passport dont you think?

So if you wish to call this a pull out of troops then I would like to see your version of a full scale land invasion

You are incorrect, besides the embassy personell and under 10,000 private security people there are no more troops in Iraq. Where do you get your info?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Clint Eastwood says President Obama is greatest hoax ever. It takes millions of super hoax people to vote for a hoax president.

Josey Wales was dead on point. Obama duped millions into voting for him.
 
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