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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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ChrisL said:
You are really exaggerating here about the US being a threat. We don't threaten any countries that are friendly. Just like in your neighborhood, there's always going to be jerks in the world too, and that is what these people who go around killing INNOCENT people are. I don't see how anyone could defend that, and I don't see how any sane, rational person could do that or even think about doing that to another human being (or human beings) who is INNOCENT.
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You do realize we are currently doing drone attacks in Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen in the name of killing Al Queda. The problem is we kill many more civilians than Al Queda with these strikes. Well that's not the only problem there are few others but I won't go into that now. The US military on orders from president has been killing numerous civilians in countries we haven't declared war on for quite a long time now. Technically it's a violation of International law a Crime Against Humanity but don't look for Obama or Bush at the Hague anytime soon.
 
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Misterveritis said:
And this is an indication of the sissification of the US. I understand that in Native American lore when a male did not want to be manly any longer he could dress in squaw's clothing and do the squaw's chores. Perhaps you should leave the heavy lifting to those men not yet wearing squaw's clothing.
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lol sorry can you speak in English mate?


p.s Ive done the heavy hifting already xxx
 
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John.NoseTip said:
Technically it's a violation of International law
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No it's not. The US does so with the permission of the country's government.


a Crime Against Humanity
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Again, no it's not.
 
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Grizzly Adams said:
A movie about a magical dead man does not cause violence. What causes violence is people who are such giant, flaming ******s that they cannot handle anyone making fun of their favorite magical dead man.
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a movie about a magical dead man....damm
 
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Ever religion has a magical dead man. I think it's to make it a little easier to relate to the sky guy.


Higgins86 said:
a movie about a magical dead man....damm
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the whole forum is unreal tonight! Most of you have never served in the forces, been to the countries in question or fought Islamic extremists but your happy that some idiots are insulting Islam a religion that we are trying to defend in Afghan and the very people you sent to protect them are in more danger!....good stuff. The whole things a **** show! You did you think we have been fighting for all these years? Civil minded scholars?
 
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Klown said:
1.42 million civilian deaths on Iraq as a result of US attacks and an illegal invasion

And you call this |terrible"???

What was the justification of the war with IRaq?

Why is the USA still in Iraq?

Are you saying that 1.42 million civilian deaths is fine by you because they are casualties of a war carried out by your nation adn and its defense forces?
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The Iraq war was terrible and will probably be called the crime of the century, but I have to point out that the US withdrew all it's troops by the end of 2011.
 
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Voltaire X said:
The Iraq war was terrible and will probably be called the crime of the century, but I have to point out that the US withdrew all it's troops by the end of 2011.
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guess im a war criminal then...news to me
 
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John.NoseTip said:
You do realize we are currently doing drone attacks in Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen in the name of killing Al Queda. The problem is we kill many more civilians than Al Queda with these strikes. Well that's not the only problem there are few others but I won't go into that now. The US military on orders from president has been killing numerous civilians in countries we haven't declared war on for quite a long time now. Technically it's a violation of International law a Crime Against Humanity but don't look for Obama or Bush at the Hague anytime soon.
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You are dead wrong, civilian casualties from drone strikes have decreased dramatically since 2008. Drones are the only weapon that can defeat AlQeada and anyone who is against them is on the side of the terrorists. You are also on the side of the neocons that want to send 100's of 1000's of troops back to the middle east to serve as targets for terror attacks. Technically you are in violation of your citizenship but I won't tell if you don't.

The New America Foundation has been collecting data about the drone attacks systematically for the past three years from reputable news sources such as the New York Times and Reuters, as well as Pakistani media outlets such as the Express Tribune and Dawn.

According to the data generated by averaging the high and low casualty estimates of militant and civilian deaths published in a wide range of those outlets, the estimated civilian death rate in U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan has declined dramatically since 2008, when it was at its peak of almost 50%.

Today, for the first time, the estimated civilian death rate is at or close to zero.
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Civilian casualties plummet in drone strikes - CNN
 
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iguanaman said:
You are dead wrong, civilian casualties from drone strikes have decreased dramatically since 2008. Drones are the only weapon that can defeat AlQeada and anyone who is against them is on the side of the terrorists. You are also on the side of the neocons that want to send 100's of 1000's of troops back to the middle east to serve as targets for terror attacks. Technically you are in violation of your citizenship but I won't tell if you don't.


Civilian casualties plummet in drone strikes - CNN
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I'm not for sending any troops or drones to Yemen, Somalia or Pakistan. How you got I'm for sending troops anywhere out of what I said is beyond me. If you think we aren't killing civilians with drones strikes right now you are just dead wrong. Look at my previous post I provided links one of which is to the guardian website which keeps a total of the strikes and civilian casualties. That cnn report you talked about defines terrorists in extremely broad terms. I don't remember the exact language but it's damn close to if you're male and standing where the rocket hits you're a terrorist. If Al Queada is so terrible then why are we helping them in Syria. I am a citizen and hopefully we haven't reached the point yet where it can be revoked because people like you don't like something I said.
 
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mbig said:
Talk about bad analogies.
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Well, I can't claim it's my analogy, but it's about the best one that's put in an appearance so far on this thread.
As in the early Islamic tradition, they have Used this as a Pretext for murder.
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What tradition is that?

The only Third party blame I see is for any Local Imams who incited them.

mbig/abu afak
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I see, so incitement is only reprehensible when a Moslem does it. Gotcha.
 
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Voltaire X said:
The Iraq war was terrible and will probably be called the crime of the century, but I have to point out that the US withdrew all it's troops by the end of 2011.
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That is incorrect.

There are approximatley 110,000 US millitary personell still operational in Iraq

In addition there are over 150,000 private US security personell - largely funded by the US tax payer, that are there to protect US interests - and by US interests I mean PRIVATE CORPORATE interests

Also, the so called US embassy in Bagdad has approximately 15,000 personell within its boundaries - most of whom are military and intelligence people. And this embassy has 600 buildings in it - a bit of an overkill dont you think, just to cater for the US tourist in Iraq who may need a new passport dont you think?

So if you wish to call this a pull out of troops then I would like to see your version of a full scale land invasion
 
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Taylor said:
How so? What are some examples of artistic representations of sexuality banned in the US but not in many European countries? Child pornography?
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They are legion. You think that Janet Jackson exposing a glimpse of her titty would cause a national outcry and scandal anywhere in western Europe? And here, on this very site, posting a picture of nudity of any kind is a bannable offence. That is censorship.
 
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Misterveritis said:
This is evidence of the chickification of Europe.
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Why would that be, then?
 
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Andalublue said:
Well, I can't claim it's my analogy, but it's about the best one that's put in an appearance so far on this thread.
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It stunk which is why you DISHONESTLY Left off the Meat of my post showing such
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me embarrassing/Porking andalublue so he just dropped it when quoting said:
I don't consider youtube "a crowded theater". It's understood by all to be an Open Access venue not a sanctioned, official, or even unofficial platform for any government or people.
Even these Arabs must know that, must see content that makes them understand that fact
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The usual Dishonest andalublue post.

andalublue said:
What tradition is that?
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The tradition that cleansed the Arabian Peninsula of Jews and others under various... pretexts. The 'sword verses' in general in fact. (Way over your head, I know)
Many of Mohammed's attacks/Massacres used Pretext.
Thus I signed my post with my two handles making sure abu afak was bolded. Lost on you of course.

andalublue said:
I see, so incitement is only reprehensible when a Moslem does it. Gotcha.
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That's another Dishonest response.
This vid was not new and the reaction Not throughout the Arab or Muslim world. Just where some sought to make it an issue/rallying cry.
It's still early in the investigation, but speculation is it may even have been a planned attack with or without al-Qaeda's help.
That 'incitment'.

You never could make an honest response. Ever. Be it your Utter fabrication of a Fallaci 'quote' or your estimate of Pipes credentials on Islam
Your posts are a Joke, except they are also Notably Dishonest and Disingenuous.
Maybe stick to cooking/recipes.


another Dishonest andalublue post sure to follow in 'response'.
But not/never really responsIVE.
 
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Das Sozialist said:
I agree that 1.42 million civilian deaths is horrible, it saddens me, but those were casualties of war, they were not intentional to my knowledge. The Ambassador and the three other civilians were attacked intentionally.
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I'm pretty sure the US and UK intended to invade Iraq, on false and falsified premises and illegally. The Iraq war was a far, far more reprehensible act than this single grenade attack and mob riot. It is, however, somewhat off topic.
 
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Mya said:
This is horrible.... it's beyond words :( ..... why do they have to do that? What kind of human beings are those? and that was the US Ambassador to Libya, the very man who helped all those people.... It's beyond comprehension.
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Except of course, SgtRock's post was completely untrue. The ambassador died of smoke inhalation inside the consulate. No torture, no dragging through the streets. You'd think the death of an ambassador would be enough, but some folks can't resist playing the drama queen for nefarious purposes.
 
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Schutzengel said:
Apparently he was raped, before they murdered him...

PICKET:Lebanese paper report - Murdered U.S. Ambassador to Libya reportedly raped - Washington Times

The only apology that should have been given to these animals should have been delivered at 2900FPS from the muzzle of a Marine M-4A1, too bad they only had time to give the embassador 2 marine bodyguards.
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More fabricated 'news' to try to inflame the situation further.

Libyan doctor: U.S. ambassador Christopher Stevens died of "severe asphyxia" - CBS News
 
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Serenity said:
Moderator's Warning:
Ok, that's enough. All personal comments directed at other members ceases now. Any future off topic comments and personal comments (no matter how light), will be dealt with. Stick to the topic only please.
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mbig said:
It stunk which is why you DISHONESTLY Left off the Meat of my post showing such
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The usual Dishonest andalublue post.

The tradition that cleansed the Arabian Peninsula of Jews and others under various... pretexts. The 'sword verses' in general in fact. (Way over your head, I know)
Many of Mohammed's attacks/Massacres used Pretext.
Thus I signed my post with my two handles making sure abu afak was bolded. Lost on you of course.

That's another Dishonest response.
This vid was not new and the reaction Not throughout the Arab or Muslim world. Just where some sought to make it an issue/rallying cry.
It's still early in the investigation, but speculation is it may even have been a planned attack with or without al-Qaeda's help.
That 'incitment'.

You never could make an honest response. Ever. Be it your Utter fabrication of a Fallaci 'quote' or your estimate of Pipes credentials on Islam
Your posts are a Joke, except they are also Notably Dishonest and Disingenuous.
Maybe stick to cooking/recipes.


another Dishonest andalublue post sure to follow in 'response'.
But not/never really responsIVE.
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Needless to say, post reported.
 
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Tigger said:
Just another reason that our political policy should be.....

ISOLATIONISM
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Blue_State said:
America was very good at being policical isolationists without sacraficing our social or economic positions in the world pre WWII. Think we can do that again.

Furthermore, we can participate on the world stage through the UN. We do not need to be their spear and shield anymore though.
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Unfortunatley the dependency on Fossil Fuel and the sheer resistance to any change. Means on foreign policy this current path is the only one that will be pursued. The only thing on offer from the region is oil, this is the only reason the US is involved.

A better solution would be to develop the obvious alternatives: Sea Power, Solar Power, Hydroelectrics, electric cars etc. A little messing with your car I could get it running off of homebrew ethanol.

But instead we follow this path of outside dependency. Madness.
 
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Andalublue said:
Except of course, SgtRock's post was completely untrue. The ambassador died of smoke inhalation inside the consulate. No torture, no dragging through the streets. You'd think the death of an ambassador would be enough, but some folks can't resist playing the drama queen for nefarious purposes.
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Did you also count Al Jazerra and others also pointing out how his Motorcade came under Rocket Fire? Would it matter if he was dead or alive, if rockets and assault weapons were used and fired upon the motorcade? Meaning did it stop them from lighting the Convoy up?
 
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lizzie said:
I agree, but that is a common perception, and I can understand why we have gained that reputation.
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It's a common misconception, Lizzie, propagated by fools and liars who are mostly European.. Klown on this thread is only one of the many examples.

I'm in the tourism business and no one is more gracious than the Americans. Among my visitors the Canadians, French, Italians, Chileans, and Argentinians also tend to be warm and wonderful people. Americans should certainly be very proud of themselves and their contributions to the world.
 
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Andalublue said:
They are legion. You think that Janet Jackson exposing a glimpse of her titty would cause a national outcry and scandal anywhere in western Europe? And here, on this very site, posting a picture of nudity of any kind is a bannable offence. That is censorship.
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So in the US they ban the public display of a woman's breast during during prime time and in Europe they ban opinions.
 
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WELL, well, well.....FINALLY MORSI Has Spoken For Egypt!

Egyptian protesters clashed Thursday with police near the U.S. Embassy in Cairo for the third day in a row. Police used tear gas to disperse the protesters and the two sides pelted each other with rocks. But unlike Tuesday, the police kept the protesters away from the embassy's compound.

The Interior Ministry, which is in charge of police, said 16 protesters and 13 policemen were wounded in the clashes, which broke out overnight and were ongoing. Twelve protesters have been arrested, it said.

Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, speaking while on a visit to Brussels, vowed on Thursday not to allow attacks on foreign embassies in Cairo, saying the Egyptian people reject such "unlawful acts.".....snip~ :roll:

http://news.yahoo.com/protesters-storm-us-embassy-yemen-084845510.html
 
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