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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Of course it is. Just as much as France, Germany, India, or Japan. If we can support former monsters like Germany or Japan, what the hell do you have against Israel?

I don't have anything against Israel, they're not my problem. They have to watch after themselves, it is not my duty to do it for them, it is not my responsibility to pay for it. Israel is left to the Israelis, not Americans.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Yes, Christians and Muslims fighting is a long and time honored tradition. But it doesn't mean we need to continue, or that we should escalate it or play into their propaganda. Actions do have consequence.

You misrepresent. Today we see Muslims versus the West...not Chirsitianity. This is not a religious war for both sides. Proof is seen in the very many free Muslims that celebrate their religion the most healthily in Western countries. And Israel I might add. We are a 21st Century world allowing a Dark Age region run rampant.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I agree and if the Muslims would behave, it wouldn't happen.

It's not our responsibility to make them "behave". Nor is it our duty to police the world, or engage in preemptive, interventionist, occupational wars of foreign lands. The world doesn't pay taxes to us, we have no responsibility towards them.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

And I am not a "freedom loving patriot" ?


I like to think that - push come to shove - I am. I am for shoving back very hard on this for the sake of freedom and patriotism.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

You said it yourself, it was Israelies that made the movie so why did they attack an American embassy?

Don't you think there is more going on here than just a reaction to a movie especially when it happened on 09/11?

I know that the thread is long, but it has been linked several times.

It was an Al Qaeda smokescreen.

While Obama skips his Intelligence briefings.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

How can you claim that while brushing aside the DNC claiming that Israel has no capital, as if that will not have consequences.

Because it is orders of magnitude lower in affect than our other actions have been.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The world doesn't pay taxes to us, we have no responsibility towards them.

That is the most small minded comment I've seen in a long time.


Iranians are my brothers and sisters, and I will not stand aside while they are ruled like animals beneath the iron fist of tyranny.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Why would I give a **** what the Democrats do? I don't support those big government, big brother, big war loving jerks.

Well neither do many of us. But they're quite a lot better than the alternatives(from the (R)Libertarians their Republican buddies, to the little parties that don't have enough steam to do anything.) aside from the Democrats and the Democratic Socialists, there's really no party that can serve the needs of a nation such as ours.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Because it is orders of magnitude lower in affect than our other actions have been.

I see, so since the US invaded Iraq, now anyone (even a major political party) can do whatever they want and it doesn't count. Nice rationale there, haha.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I like to think that - push come to shove - I am. I am for shoving back very hard on this for the sake of freedom and patriotism.

Agreed.

It was just that a certain poster decided that they were the "freedom loving patriot" at the top of their turd mountain, and that a few of us were something less.

How ironic, back when Obama decided we needed to join the rebels to oust Qhaddaffi, that is was pointed out "Hey Barack. Those rebels have a substantial Al Qaeda contingent". It was discussed here in this forum a-plenty.

Well, we can say "hello" to our new friends !!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

That is the most small minded comment I've seen in a long time.


Iranians are my brothers and sisters, and I will not stand aside while they are ruled like animals beneath the iron fist of tyranny.

Government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed. If you are not part of the governed, you have no say. Just like Iranians have no say as to our government or its policies. Keep your nose out of other people's business.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It's not our responsibility to make them "behave". Nor is it our duty to police the world, or engage in preemptive, interventionist, occupational wars of foreign lands. The world doesn't pay taxes to us, we have no responsibility towards them.

It is when their mischive overflows onto us.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Well neither do many of us. But they're quite a lot better than the alternatives(from the (R)Libertarians their Republican buddies, to the little parties that don't have enough steam to do anything.) aside from the Democrats and the Democratic Socialists, there's really no party that can serve the needs of a nation such as ours.

What are the Democrats going to do that the Republicans won't? How different is Obama from Bush? Both sides, Democrats alike, will do nothing more than whittle down our liberties as they use every fear mongering POS story they can contrive to whip us into frenzy so that we stop thinking about the situation and the problems and excuse their gross usurpation of power.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The group responsible for the grenade attack had made more attacks before the controversy surrounding the film. The film came out some months ago, apparently unnoticed by anyone until it hit YT.

Conclusion? The film is not to blame for this attack, the attackers are. The film is being used an excuse for attacks, it is not the cause.

It's still a pretty crass, inflamatory and discriminatory thing to do, making a film with the direct intention of being provocative and insulting.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The protesters over there are not screaming the name of the film maker, they are screaming "Obama". I don't think that's a coincidence.
They will say anything they need to say. They stare lovingly into cameras chanting the glory of Allah while they saw a kids head off. The cheer in glory when they assassinate a woman for the crime of talking to a man. They excuse and justify their despicable existence. Blaming Obama is just the latest excuse dujoir to acting like a bunch of ****ing animals.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Because it is orders of magnitude lower in affect than our other actions have been.

One day after we honored the 11th anniversary of 9-11, you type such nonsense. That was Al Qaeda then. Yesterday was Al Qaeda.

Oh the magnitudes !!!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It seems that 17 is the new seven.

There were no birth records kept until after 1900 AD.

But, there are historic milestones plus her previous engagement.. She was older.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed. If you are not part of the governed, you have no say.

When it comes to freedom and human rights, I'm a globalist.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

It is when their mischive overflows onto us.

We may respond when our sovereignty is directly threatened. But that's it, no excuses for why we had to derail into Iraq or any of the other BS we're using to establish and proliferate forever war.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

When it comes to freedom and human rights, I'm a globalist.

You're a busybody.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

One day after we honored the 11th anniversary of 9-11, you type such nonsense. That was Al Qaeda then. Yesterday was Al Qaeda.

Oh the magnitudes !!!

Yeah, you should have heard what I said about that in the other thread about NBC.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

That is the most small minded comment I've seen in a long time.


Iranians are my brothers and sisters, and I will not stand aside while they are ruled like animals beneath the iron fist of tyranny.

Well there are many problems with that mindset, as well. The US doesn't always have a positive effect with it's foreign intervention. In the fight against communism, for instance, we supported fascist regimes in attempt to prevent our global economic influence from diminishing. No matter how brutal, no matter how wrong, we launched global tirades in attempt to halt the spread of a potentially beneficial government system. US foreign intervention isn't a goal, it's a problem.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass



What Romney had to say......

Obama and the statement released by them Apologized For Freedom of Speech.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

You're a busybody.

Others' suffering affects me personally, even if they are on the other side of the world. I take action myself, I walk the talk.

And don't worry, I'm not coming to search your computer.
 
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