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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Yes.. I have heard of it... Was it about accusing Jewish people of perversion?

What was it saying about Christian Morals?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I don't know .. Bacile claims to be Israeli and claims he is doing it for his country, Israel.

And Islamic Radicals claim that they are doing it for God and Islam. The funny thing is that Israel didn't ask him to do this. He is self-appointed and righteous, just like all those Islamic monsters. These kinds of fanatics stand outside the norms of society (though Islamic violence is whithin the norms of Islamic society). They are not soldiers who are asked to do something on behalf of a goverment or nation. They are not diplomats representing foriegn policy.

They are rogues of their societies who are self-appointed. They neither create nor design. They are not building architects, computer network designers, artists, musicians, etc. They merely criticize and destroy no matter the instrument. This is their equal contributions to humanity. Even Islamic extremists get their orders secretly from behind closed doors from hidden locations away from the society's law. This recent moron did not act on behalf of anybody or anything other than his own personal hatreds. Instead of a gun and facing his hatred, he cowardly chose the Internet and sacrificed the lives of others. I'm sure he considers himself an "artists." I guess Mein Kampf means Hitler was an artists too. And all people can do is celebrate his brave use of his "freedom." And that jackass in Florida didn't write a book. He burned them. Like I said, all they contribute to society is criticism and destruction. They are all cut from the same cloth. Pretending some are better because they didn't personally kill (only caused the death) is pathetic.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

How exactly does it offend you? How does some guys Bible School, that you don't have to attend, give you offence? What is your personal offence? Because others are Christians, your Agnostic position is threatened?

The same argument is used by Liberals about gay marriage. Heteros are "offended" over the afront to the institution of marriage. But how are they personally offended? Does it devalue the traditional ritual? Does it mean that their regular marriages are somehow insulted?

It's all relative. People are always "offended" for no reason, but it boils down to a personal discomfort that either you feel you are missing out on something or feel the need to defend a soul belief of who you are as if "they" are on the attack.


You aren't being at all consistent here. If you consider it an act of cowardice and place responsibility for offending words on the shoulders of those using them in one case, why do you not apply them in another?

If you place the responsibility for Islamists going on a rampage upon this filmmaker to any certain degree, then the same degree of responsibility must be placed on any other opinion people find offensive. In this particular case, Johnnosetip shouldn't have to say why he is offended, only that he is offended, and so you would then need to attack that to which he is responding to in a fashion similar to that which you attack this film.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

And Islamic Radicals claim that they are doing it for God and Islam. The funny thing is that Israel didn't ask him to do this. He is self-appointed and righteous, just like all those Islamic monsters. These kinds of fanatics stand outside the norms of society (though Islamic violence is whithin the norms of Islamic society). They are not soldiers who are asked to do something on behalf of a goverment or nation. They are not diplomats representing foriegn policy.

They are rogues of their societies who are self-appointed. They neither create nor design. They are not building architects, computer network designers, artists, musicians, etc. They merely criticize and destroy no matter the instrument. This is their equal contributions to humanity. Even Islamic extremists get their orders secretly from behind closed doors from hidden locations away from the society's law. This recent moron did not act on behalf of anybody or anything other than his own personal hatreds. Instead of a gun and facing his hatred, he cowardly chose the Internet and sacrificed the lives of others. I'm sure he considers himself an "artists." I guess Mein Kampf means Hitler was an artists too. And all people can do is celebrate his brave use of his "freedom." And that jackass in Florida didn't write a book. He burned them. Like I said, all they contribute to society is criticism and destruction. They are all cut from the same cloth. Pretending some are better because they didn't personally kill (only caused the death) is pathetic.

You can't make a comparison to making a movie and murder. It's assinine to do so.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

What was it saying about Christian Morals?

I thought it was a British Rock Opera..
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Folks. I have already posted two links. This was an Al Qeada attack, in revenge for the killing of an AQ big-wig in Libya. The movie protests were a smokescreen.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

No. It has become the liberal mantra. It is not that far of a cry from what happened at the DNC in Charlotte over the inclusion of "God" in their platform (one time) and the acknowledgement that Jerusalem was the capital of Israel.

Anti-Christian, anti-Jew, appeasing Islam is very much a part of American liberal political mantra.

Nonsense.

I am liberal in my political outlook and that is WHY I am so opposed to Islamism. Islamism is the very antithesis of liberalism, and just because some idiot leftists who parade about calling themselves liberal haven't the foggiest notion what liberalism is all about, that does not make their idiocy a reflection on liberalism.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So, they aren't the same as Al Qaeda, which could easily be described as an international Islamic gang.



I dunno when they declared Jeff Fort a terrorist and raided his Temple in Chicago. Do you think the RPG's, Law Rockets, Automatic Weapons, Grenedes and other weapons would classify them as International Terrorist. What about a threat to our National Security which he is locked for life and was moved to a federal prison. Which is why When the locked up Fort. The Blackstone Nation Told that faction of members they had to turn back Stone and drop the religious Flag of the El Rukns. Which caused a War between the All the Stone Tribes. Plenty people killed in Chicago over it. Hear anything on the news about those Muslims getting killed or shot or anything?

Btw the EL-Rukns say they come from the Moors and the Berbers. Not the Sunni Arbas or Shia Arabs. Course they also say they are not Arabs but Berbers!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

And Islamic Radicals claim that they are doing it for God and Islam. The funny thing is that Israel didn't ask him to do this. He is self-appointed and righteous, just like all those Islamic monsters. These kinds of fanatics stand outside the norms of society (though Islamic violence is whithin the norms of Islamic society). They are not soldiers who are asked to do something on behalf of a goverment or nation. They are not diplomats representing foriegn policy.

They are rogues of their societies who are self-appointed. They neither create nor design. They are not building architects, computer network designers, artists, musicians, etc. They merely criticize and destroy no matter the instrument. This is their equal contributions to humanity. Even Islamic extremists get their orders secretly from behind closed doors from hidden locations away from the society's law. This recent moron did not act on behalf of anybody or anything other than his own personal hatreds. Instead of a gun and facing his hatred, he cowardly chose the Internet and sacrificed the lives of others. I'm sure he considers himself an "artists." I guess Mein Kampf means Hitler was an artists too. And all people can do is celebrate his brave use of his "freedom." And that jackass in Florida didn't write a book. He burned them. Like I said, all they contribute to society is criticism and destruction. They are all cut from the same cloth. Pretending some are better because they didn't personally kill (only caused the death) is pathetic.

Oh heavens.. I know Israel didn't ask Bacile to do this nasty movie. Some people are just dedicated to making things worse.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass


That is, indeed, a high degree of "clownage".

For one thing, the link between the film and the attack is pure speculation.
For another, we still do believe in the First amendment, don't we? I mean, we've attacked the fourth and the second, but I thought the first was still more or less intact.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass


Morsi in Egypt has called his US Embassy here and asked them to look into going after the Producer of the movie. Also to try and take him to court. My opinion to also try and discover where he is. Yet Morsi has come out and said nothing about the Attacks on the US Embassy.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

This is a statement from Clinton regarding the attacks... This is more like it instead of an apology. I suspect that US will be "working" with Libyan investigative agencies to fins these people and do what it appropriate in this situation.

This was an attack by a small and savage group – not the people or Government of Libya. Everywhere Chris and his team went in Libya, in a country scarred by war and tyranny, they were hailed as friends and partners. And when the attack came yesterday, Libyans stood and fought to defend our post. Some were wounded. Libyans carried Chris’ body to the hospital, and they helped rescue and lead other Americans to safety. And last night, when I spoke with the President of Libya, he strongly condemned the violence and pledged every effort to protect our people and pursue those responsible.


Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our Embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the internet. America’s commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear – there is no justification for this, none. Violence like this is no way to honor religion or faith.

Remarks on the Deaths of American Personnel in Benghazi, Libya
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

No. It's because teaching children to believe in a magical guy in the sky and disregard reason has a tremendous impact in the world I live. There are numerous wars and laws based on these magical people in the sky so adults teaching 7 year olds that this is good is horribly wrong to me. The difference is I understand I live in a world where everyone doesn't agree with me therefore I must accept their beliefs.

This is a great leap to your personal offenses. The children of the world are being taught about God so you are offended? But not your children. Despite your children being taught to disbelieve in God, you find offense in a church that preaches God behind closed doors. Is it also offensive to merely see them in their suits on Sunday in the church parking lots?

I don't get it.

Perhaps you should appreicate that the sciences in the West were absolutely pushed forward because of religion and that today it has evolved into a religion that does not go to war in the name of God. It's evolution. Religions do it too. Something the Middle East has refused to be a part of. Perhaps a religion that slaughhters in Gods name today should be what offends you. "God" in the West isn't hurting you at all.

By the way, I don't believe in God at all. But the belief in it hardly offends me. Maybe the fact that believers and non-believers get so easily offended is why both are always pointlessly defending themselves in light of each other.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Folks. I have already posted two links. This was an Al Qeada attack, in revenge for the killing of an AQ big-wig in Libya. The movie protests were a smokescreen.

Agreed as I said something too. Plus How does Obama and Clintons first speechs about the incident sound.....now?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

This is a statement from Clinton regarding the attacks... This is more like it instead of an apology. I suspect that US will be "working" with Libyan investigative agencies to fins these people and do what it appropriate in this situation.



Remarks on the Deaths of American Personnel in Benghazi, Libya


Yes she said a small group......now they are reporting this group also attacked the same Consulate in June leaving pamphlets. So the question would also be. if this Embassy was attacked in June why wasnt security increased?

Moroover now Obama is sending 2 units of Anti terrorist Units to Libya.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

That's what you want it to be, so as to creat some fuax outrage concerning racism, or something.

It blows me away how Americans can actually defend these people.


I'm not defending anybody, but it seems what everyone wants to say. "Well, when they insult Christians, we don't...blah blah"
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Folks. I have already posted two links. This was an Al Qeada attack, in revenge for the killing of an AQ big-wig in Libya. The movie protests were a smokescreen.

You can't trust any of it. Anybody with a Qu'ran and a gun attaches themselves to the name "Al-Queda" just for extremist legitimacy anymore. Everything they do is a smokescreen because they lack the maturity to face the mirror and their own culture.

The thread is moving too fast to catch every post and link.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Also in June when they attacked our Embassy in Libya.....they also went after the UK ambassador. Attempting to take out his Motoracde with RPG and Automatic Weapons Fire.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Yes she said a small group......now they are reporting this group also attacked the same Consulate in June leaving pamphlets. So the question would also be. if this Embassy was attacked in June why wasnt security increased?

Moroover now Obama is sending 2 units of Anti terrorist Units to Libya.

There is no question that this was a total screw up on the part of the US who should have anticipated something for 9/11. Sending more security forces now is not helping these four souls. I would also think there are different orders regarding firing upon these rioters. Obama cannot talk these people to death, just go out there and kick some butt.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Nonsense.

I am liberal in my political outlook and that is WHY I am so opposed to Islamism. Islamism is the very antithesis of liberalism, and just because some idiot leftists who parade about calling themselves liberal haven't the foggiest notion what liberalism is all about, that does not make their idiocy a reflection on liberalism.

So it was nonsense that at the Democrat National Convention last week that half the members ( or more) voted to exclude "God" from the platform, and to not recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel ? The appeasement of Islam by the Left is quite measureable. It is not abstract.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Folks. I have already posted two links. This was an Al Qeada attack, in revenge for the killing of an AQ big-wig in Libya. The movie protests were a smokescreen.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions.. There are many think tanks and they serve a purpose beyond intel. Wait..
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

That is, indeed, a high degree of "clownage".

For one thing, the link between the film and the attack is pure speculation.
For another, we still do believe in the First amendment, don't we? I mean, we've attacked the fourth and the second, but I thought the first was still more or less intact.

The dunderheads who suggested it obviously didn't think think this one through. Should the members of the Nation of Islam be prosecuted for the actions of the JDL? Would much of the population of Dearborn be behind bars if expressing religious intolerance were a capitol offense?

The problem with this myopia is that when people suggest it in one direction, they fail to apply it in the other.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So it was nonsense that at the Democrat National Convention last week that half the members ( or more) voted to exclude "God" from the platform, and to not recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel ? The appeasement of Islam by the Left is quite measureable. It is not abstract.

Exploiting God in partisan politics is pretty low down.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So it was nonsense that at the Democrat National Convention last week that half the members ( or more) voted to exclude "God" from the platform, and to not recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel ? The appeasement of Islam by the Left is quite measureable. It is not abstract.

I don't think that has anything to do with the current situation.
 
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