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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

No. Americans are dying because some religious fanatics on this planet think it's okay to kill people for expressing an opinion. You can start blaming the actual criminals any second now.

Bacile said he was expressing his religious convictions and helping his country.... then he went into hiding.. If its all so OK.. why did the coward go into hiding?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Lybian government?

Is that what you call a US propped up dictatorship?

:) hey look!

strawman.jpg


A really stupid strawman!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The YouTube video was translated into Arabic and released yesterday.

Why don't you watch the 13 minute trailer.. and then take a look at our sweet smiling Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Americans are dying for Israelis freedom of speech.

http://www.therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/654678571.png

Go back and re-read your own words:

Translated into Arabic and released yesterday. As in 9/11.

As a pose to translated into Arabic and released shortly after the video made its appearance on YouTube.

This. Was. Planned.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Bacile said he was expressing his religious convictions and helping his country.... then he went into hiding.. If its all so OK.. why did the coward go into hiding?

because Islamists have a long history of cutting off the heads of people whom they dislike? do you consider salman rushdie a coward? theodore van gogh?
 
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Wait...what? Since when is firing RPGs and starting armed conflict a rational and reasonable reaction to a movie?

no but I like how they all have to emphasize his jewishness when calling for his arrest, culpability, etc.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Didn't I just say that proximate cause doesn't apply? I'm pretty sure I brought it up because that's what PeteEU was alluding to, and then said it doesn't apply.

I did not get that from his statements, if that is what you got so be it. These actions were criminal with clearly and are delineated as such. I suggest you read my entire post and do not assume anything.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

:) hey look!

strawman.jpg


A really stupid strawman!

thats it? thats your response?

the best that you can muster?

I see that even though you quote Thomas Sowell at the bottom of your posts, you dont understand what he is saying
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Is obama still taking credit for the Arab spring?

The so called offensive movie was just the first excuse these radicaMuslimsms needed and it was just a matter of time until this happened. Many were warning obama that the radicals would take over in time and here we are.

Interesting how all this is happening during the 9-11 anniversary and obama snubbing Israel.

"Arab Spring" is a misnomer. It should be called "The Islamist Spring", and it's difficult to believe BHO didn't see it coming.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Wait...what? Since when is firing RPGs and starting armed conflict a rational and reasonable reaction to a movie?

Who said it was rational?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Bacile said he was expressing his religious convictions and helping his country.... then he went into hiding.. If its all so OK.. why did the coward go into hiding?

ArcanaXV said:
because some religious fanatics on this planet think it's okay to kill people for expressing an opinion. You can start blaming the actual criminals any second now.

...........
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Who said it was rational?

So why is it something that matters? They made an illogical and irrational response to a movie. It's not the fault of the guy who made the movie, it's the fault of the people who apparently cannot behave as humans.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Just another reason that our political policy should be.....

ISOLATIONISM

I do believe that we would be better off if the more extreme elements in our country would go live on an island somewhere.

And then the rest of us can get back to calmly evaluating and solving problems.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Who said it was rational?

I was going to reply with a hearty "NOBODY!!" until I noticed that t immediately following the i.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

So why is it something that matters? They made an illogical and irrational response to a movie. It's not the fault of the guy who made the movie, it's the fault of the people who apparently cannot behave as humans.

The reaction of fanatics is never rational. The reaction of the American-Israeli to Islam is not rational.. him making this movie is not rational.. people funding such a movie is not rational. People reacting in such a way is not rational.. but we are talking about religion and fanatics, so anything they do is NOT RATIONAL! regardless of who we are talking about. Is insulting 1 billion peoples beliefs rational?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Cant have political isolationism without social isolationism.. or economic isolationism. Either you are a part of the world or you are not.

Typical Europan response to a fear that Americans don't want to be there anymore.......

America took down the Spanish Empire during our time of isolationalism.

America surpassed the british Empire as the number one economy on earth in the 1890s during our time of isolationalism.

America ventured out to deal with European children during World War I to prevent the allies from losing and then went right back into isolationalism after proving to be the most powerful nation on earth.

We did all this through our isolationalism - political, social, and economic isolationalism.



But Europeans wouldn't allow an isolated America would they? After proving to emerge out of our isolationalism to deal with more European children as the most powerful nation in history, we had to stay in your wrecked world. Before long we were dealing with more European children during the Cold War. Of course, in the 1990s we were still dealing with European children and their knack for genocide on the Europen continent with the former Yugoslavia.

So you see.....we became great through our isolationalism when we didn't have to continually react to European instigated disasters at the expense of American lives. Underneath the anti-American propaganda preached at European institutions and universities, Europeans aren't dumb. They know that an isolated America means a world in European hands and that this means disaster is always around the corner. You are deadly to yourselves and need a daddy protectorate.

Make no mistake.....we have proved that we can isolate and become great while the rest of you spiral straight to hell. The truth is that none of you is worth our blood. You never were. We have just been stuck with putting out your fires that always threaten to consume us all. Your continued self-designed path to hell always threatens to drag the rest of us with you.

But today our problem is less European and more Middle Eastern. But lets not pretend anymore. Our problem is Muslim. We protect their dictators and we are hated and murdered by Muslims for it. We get rid of their dictators and support their revolutions and we are hated and murdered for it. A book gets burned and Americans are murdered for it. And all Europeans can do is talk about how America deserves it. Never mind that we didn't start two World Wars, a Cold War and wreck the world through brutal soul killing colonialism. We merely inherited your overwhelming messes while making an extreme few along the way. But by all means..."America deserves it."

Hillary Clinton just spoke and told the world that for Americans, the fact this occurred on September 11, it is just further proof that our mission to bring a better world isn't finished. She refrained from more truth. September 11 has become a date for Muslims to celebrate Islam.
 
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Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

thats it? thats your response?

the best that you can muster?

I see that even though you quote Thomas Sowell at the bottom of your posts, you dont understand what he is saying


man, the trolls are pretty thick on the ground this election season.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

I do believe that we would be better off if the more extreme elements in our country would go live on an island somewhere.

And then the rest of us can get back to calmly evaluating and solving problems.

extremist elements?

And who will deam what the word EXTREMIST really means?

you and your biblical ethic?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

We might one day get a handle on this that throughout the world, including the US and Israel, there are religious extremists and that the actions of the zealots will not be condoned by any government. There are extremists and zealots who are Muslim, Jew, Christian, etc.

Here it seems that Jewish and Christian religious fanatics purposely flamed the fires of hate and Islamists responded. All three are equally at fault.

Most of the good people of the world, good Muslims, good Christians, good Jews, etc. are caught in between the hatred of religious fanatics.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The reaction of fanatics is never rational. The reaction of the American-Israeli to Islam is not rational.. him making this movie is not rational.. people funding such a movie is not rational. People reacting in such a way is not rational.. but we are talking about religion and fanatics, so anything they do is NOT RATIONAL! regardless of who we are talking about. Is insulting 1 billion peoples beliefs rational?

It could be, depending on belief. All theists are mostly crazy to varying degrees, I'm not going to tread carefully because theists may get their feelings hurt. Hurt feelings does not excuse violent response, and me hurting someone's feelings in no way shape or form makes me responsible for their irrational response.
 
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hazlnut said:
I do believe that we would be better off if the more extreme elements in our country would go live on an island somewhere.

And then the rest of us can get back to calmly evaluating and solving problems.
extremist elements?

And who will deam what the word EXTREMIST really means?

you and your biblical ethic?

:mrgreen: I had to 'like' this one :lamo
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

man, the trolls are pretty thick on the ground this election season.

Yeah tell me about it, there was some guy making a big deal out of obamas twitter this morning :lol:
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Yeah tell me about it, there was some guy making a big deal out of obamas twitter this morning :lol:

what? dude what a loser :lol:
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

man, the trolls are pretty thick on the ground this election season.

another supreme come back from cpwill

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THAT NOBODY CAN DENY!
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The reaction of fanatics is never rational. The reaction of the American-Israeli to Islam is not rational.. him making this movie is not rational.. people funding such a movie is not rational. People reacting in such a way is not rational.. but we are talking about religion and fanatics, so anything they do is NOT RATIONAL! regardless of who we are talking about. Is insulting 1 billion peoples beliefs rational?

How is making a movie not rational? People are making movies, writing books, making speeches and contributing to political debates every hour of the day. That's the way of western civilization.

Has any criticism of islam become a Holy War to you as well? Is the subject of islam, unless it is positive, is now verboten?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

:mrgreen: I had to 'like' this one :lamo

On this day, in the year of our lord 2012, it was finally established once and for all that hazlnut is really just a bible thumper.
 
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