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Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

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Obama just pissed off Israel (snubbing Netanyahu) and ONLY condemned the death of a US ambassador within days. His foreign policy abilities are on full display. Bush would have embraced Israel and had an aircraft carrier on its way.

He didn't "snub" Bibi. The National Post states that "An Israeli official told Reuters on condition of anonymity that Netanyahu’s aides had asked for a meeting when he visits the United Nations this month, and 'the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible. It said that the president’s schedule will not permit that.'" (Barack Obama rejects Benjamin Netanyahu meeting request after PM says U.S. has no ‘moral right’ to stop Israeli attack on Iran | World | News | National Post)

Thus, it was a scheduling problem rather than a purposeful snub.
 
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If they hold any responsibility, it is a moral one and not a legal one. I would sure feel guilty if something I said or wrote drove someone to commit violent acts against innocent people, but I certainly wouldn't expect to be prosecuted for the actions of others.

The next time someone shoots an abortion doctor, or bombs an abortion clinic, we will be looking for the leftwads to defend the attacker, at least on "moral" grounds.
 
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He didn't "snub" Bibi. The National Post states that "An Israeli official told Reuters on condition of anonymity that Netanyahu’s aides had asked for a meeting when he visits the United Nations this month, and 'the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible. It said that the president’s schedule will not permit that.'" (Barack Obama rejects Benjamin Netanyahu meeting request after PM says U.S. has no ‘moral right’ to stop Israeli attack on Iran | World | News | National Post)

Thus, it was a scheduling problem rather than a purposeful snub.

yet he did apparently have free room in his schedule for David Letterman....
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

He didn't "snub" Bibi. The National Post states that "An Israeli official told Reuters on condition of anonymity that Netanyahu’s aides had asked for a meeting when he visits the United Nations this month, and 'the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible. It said that the president’s schedule will not permit that.'" (Barack Obama rejects Benjamin Netanyahu meeting request after PM says U.S. has no ‘moral right’ to stop Israeli attack on Iran | World | News | National Post)

Thus, it was a scheduling problem rather than a purposeful snub.

That's called a snub. When David Letterman is more important that Netanyahu ... its a SNUB !

Obama Announces Letterman Appearance on Day He Snubbed Netanyahu
 
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Is obama still taking credit for the Arab spring?

The so called offensive movie was just the first excuse these radicaMuslimsms needed and it was just a matter of time until this happened. Many were warning obama that the radicals would take over in time and here we are.

Interesting how all this is happening during the 9-11 anniversary and obama snubbing Israel.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Is obama still taking credit for the Arab spring?

The so called offensive movie was just the first excuse these radicaMuslimsms needed and it was just a matter of time until this happened. Many were warning obama that the radicals would take over in time and here we are.

Interesting how all this is happening during the 9-11 anniversary and obama snubbing Israel.

Obama has NO control over Israeli citizens.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

He didn't "snub" Bibi. The National Post states that "An Israeli official told Reuters on condition of anonymity that Netanyahu’s aides had asked for a meeting when he visits the United Nations this month, and 'the White House has got back to us and said it appears a meeting is not possible. It said that the president’s schedule will not permit that.'" (Barack Obama rejects Benjamin Netanyahu meeting request after PM says U.S. has no ‘moral right’ to stop Israeli attack on Iran | World | News | National Post)

Thus, it was a scheduling problem rather than a purposeful snub.

"A scheduling problem"??? The Middle East is the most volatile area of the world right now and Barrack Obama can't see the leader of the only democracy there, and which is under real threat, because of a "scheduling problem"??

Did he happen to mention what he was doing that was more important?
 
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You're talking about proximate cause, and it's clear you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater: Proximate cause. A provocative video, much less one that was released a year ago: No, not even if you classify the perpetrators of this heinous mass-murder as animals. Animals don't hold a grudge for a year -- only human beings with their human agendas are capable of such madness.

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These situations do not apply in this instance. The filmmaker could only foresee that someone somewhere may object to the subject matter of the film. Even if the filmmaker is held liable it would be to the embassy personal, their families and the United States. This a fantastic approach to this matter.

More importantly the rioters have no legally recognizable defense for their actions. These rioters could only cite necessity, consent, self defense, and defense of others, as a defense for their actions; none of which appear to be applicable here.
 
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Obama has NO control over Israeli citizens.

Oh, do stop already! No US president should ever have ANY control over anyone exercising their freedom of speech. I'm sick and tired of these fanatic extremists holding the free world hostage. I refuse to even put the slightest dent on any of our fundamental freedoms to appease a bunch of out of control animals. End of.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

These situations do not apply in this instance. The filmmaker could only foresee that someone somewhere may object to the subject matter of the film.

Didn't I just say that proximate cause doesn't apply? I'm pretty sure I brought it up because that's what PeteEU was alluding to, and then said it doesn't apply.
 
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Before I was mad. Now I'm pissed.






Good on the Libyan government for not trying to either quietly ignore or appease these thugs. Looking at you, Egypt.

Great...just what the government needs. More excuses to expand and continue our forever war.
 
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"A scheduling problem"??? The Middle East is the most volatile area of the world right now and Barrack Obama can't see the leader of the only democracy there, and which is under real threat, because of a "scheduling problem"??

Did he happen to mention what he was doing that was more important?[/QUOTE]

First thing is a cigarette, then golf, then a noon time nap, then some political campaigning, then a $400.00 steak for dinner then on on the Letterman show. Sounds damn busy to me, screw Netanyahu.
 
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3. The American-Jew who made the movie should be arrested for the complicity in the murder of American citizens in Libya. Just because he did not pull the trigger himself, he was the root cause of the trigger being pulled.

And what stops the same thing (arrest) being done to you if someone here goes out and committs violence because of what you just said?
 
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Oh, do stop already! No US president should ever have ANY control over anyone exercising their freedom of speech. I'm sick and tired of these fanatic extremists holding the free world hostage. I refuse to even put the slightest dent on any of our fundamental freedoms to appease a bunch of out of control animals. End of.

Americans are dying so an Israeli can express himself and go into hiding.

Here the US Ambassador Chris Stevens.. the man with the kind smile.

http://www.therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/654678571.png
 
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Here are the peaceful adherents of Islam showing off their trophy.

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Religious views? At best it is POLITICAL views, but that does not excuse him one bit. A man saying "go kill X because he is communist" and someone actually does go kill X.. is complicit in X's death.

Are you really so completely out of touch with reality here that you think the movie instructed these maniacs to murder the U.S. Ambassador?

Your extraordinarily reactive political views have led you to express some awfully silly thoughts in the past, but this one really takes the cake.
 
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Americans are dying so an Israeli can express himself and go into hiding.

Here the US Ambassador Chris Stevens.. the man with the kind smile.

http://www.therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/654678571.png

No. Those Americans died because of a coordinated attack timed to go off on 9/11. The video was the excuse, not the flashpoint. Any other explanation is absurd.
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

3. The American-Jew who made the movie should be arrested for the complicity in the murder of American citizens in Libya. Just because he did not pull the trigger himself, he was the root cause of the trigger being pulled.

Wait...what? Since when is firing RPGs and starting armed conflict a rational and reasonable reaction to a movie?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Americans are dying so an Israeli can express himself and go into hiding.

Here the US Ambassador Chris Stevens.. the man with the kind smile.

http://www.therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/654678571.png

No. Americans are dying because some religious fanatics on this planet think it's okay to kill people for expressing an opinion. You can start blaming the actual criminals any second now.
 
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Americans are dying so an Israeli can express himself and go into hiding.

Here the US Ambassador Chris Stevens.. the man with the kind smile.

http://www.therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/654678571.png

Considering your own views on Jews, does this mean that Jews are justified to go on a rampage against whatever people you consider yours?

I assume you will blame yourself afterwards to remain consistent, right?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

No. Those Americans died because of a coordinated attack timed to go off on 9/11. The video was the excuse, not the flashpoint. Any other explanation is absurd.

The YouTube video was translated into Arabic and released yesterday.

Why don't you watch the 13 minute trailer.. and then take a look at our sweet smiling Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Americans are dying for Israelis freedom of speech.

http://www.therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/654678571.png
 
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Before I was mad. Now I'm pissed.






Good on the Libyan government for not trying to either quietly ignore or appease these thugs. Looking at you, Egypt.

Lybian government?

Is that what you call a US propped up dictatorship?
 
Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

The YouTube video was translated into Arabic and released yesterday.

Why don't you watch the 13 minute trailer.. and then take a look at our sweet smiling Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Americans are dying for Israelis freedom of speech.

http://www.therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/654678571.png

Killing people and bombing buildings is not a rational response to a movie, why should we be held to the reactions of the illogical?
 
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