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Food Stamp Use Climbs To Record, Reviving Campaign Issue [W:77]

No, it's that they'd rather pay 1950's wages and always bitch about how much more it costs now than compared to long ago. And because he wants to pay them so little, the only ones willing to do the work are mostly illegal immigrants,t so he hires those. And all the people bitching about illegal immigrants and blah blah blah tend to use products which encourages the undercutting of American jobs and subsidizing instead with illegal immigrant labor. Thanks.

Workers get paid what they're worth based on what the company can afford. More government regulation and higher taxes infringe on that ability to pay them what they can afford.
 
Workers get paid what they're worth based on what the company can afford. More government regulation and higher taxes infringe on that ability to pay them what they can afford.

So you want slave labor then. Which is essentially what you get with illegal labor. Well I guess we know what side you come down on. If the company cannot make enough profit to afford workable wages, then perhaps that company shouldn't exist in the first place, yes? Free market and all, though I fear some of y'all say it but don't really understand what it means.
 
So you want slave labor then. Which is essentially what you get with illegal labor. Well I guess we know what side you come down on. If the company cannot make enough profit to afford workable wages, then perhaps that company shouldn't exist in the first place, yes? Free market and all, though I fear some of y'all say it but don't really understand what it means.

You automatically assume that people who don't pay ridiculous high wages are automatically paying wages below minimum wage? For all the braggart posts about intellect I find your last two relatively dense.
 
You automatically assume that people who don't pay ridiculous high wages are automatically paying wages below minimum wage? For all the braggart posts about intellect I find your last two relatively dense.

And if ad homs are they only way you can debate, it says a lot about yourself as well.
 
And if ad homs are they only way you can debate, it says a lot about yourself as well.

Ad hom would imply I'd done something more than attack the absolute asinine assumptions of your posts.

And I didn't.
 
So you want slave labor then. Which is essentially what you get with illegal labor. Well I guess we know what side you come down on. If the company cannot make enough profit to afford workable wages, then perhaps that company shouldn't exist in the first place, yes? Free market and all, though I fear some of y'all say it but don't really understand what it means.

You make a perfect case to close our border, however Obama is dead set against it, as I'm sure you are. So as long as you allow illegals in this country, people who hire them can pay them illegally whatever they want.
 
You make a perfect case to close our border, however Obama is dead set against it, as I'm sure you are. So as long as you allow illegals in this country, people who hire them can pay them illegally whatever they want.

That's fairly well true. However, I wouldn't close our border, proper immigration is good for a country. I would, however, control it better so that we can prevent, or diminish (as the number likely will never be zero), illegal immigration.
 
Food-Stamp Use Climbs to Record, Reviving Campaign Issue - Bloomberg

dang, bloomberg, what a racist observation

next thing you'll be calling him the food stamp president, or something

maybe the white house shouldn't have been working so hard to push food stamps in our people-of-color communities

radio ads targeted to blacks, spanish language ads on tv

food stamps help me eat right, and meet my budget too!

gas prices---almost doubled since barack obama's inauguration

wages---down 5 percent

national debt---up 40%

unemployment---from 7.8 to 8.3%

poverty---all time high

housing---still no basement in sight

58% of all jobs created during the barack hussein "recovery" earn around 10 to 12 dollars per hour

utilities up, groceries up, premiums up...

hope gone

only division and recrimination remain

fastest growing food stamp state in america---north carolina

no wonder mom's fed up

and not with food stamps

party on, progressives

seeya at the polls

your post is a little racey, isn't it?
 
Have you ever taken an economics course?

Oh, more personal attacks......LOL Go ****yourself.

Its called history, try it some time.

Wiki has a great series on labor. READ.
 
Oh, more personal attacks......LOL Go ****yourself.

Its called history, try it some time.

Wiki has a great series on labor. READ.

I wasn't attacking you, I was asking you a question.

And I asked it because your posts seem to largely ignore or reject very basic laws/rules/theories of economics.

I was, therefore, curious.

But with the "Go eff yourself" line you can bet your ass your post was reported.
 
Ummmm, newsflash. The vast majority of us aren't getting our jobs from Wall Street.

Ah news flash, YES WE ARE.

ALL Wall Street

Walmart
all fast food, Mcde's, Jack in the box, Burger king,
all retail - costco, JC penny, mall franchises, etc
All major Mfg's -
All tech
In fact, I cant think of one true small employer at all right now........
 
It's more complicated than that. My $20/hour would put him out of business because he'd never be able to compete with the other companies in the area. .

And your entire argument falls part because they ALL MUST PAY $20 hr. So there is no under cutting on pay.
 
Ah news flash, YES WE ARE.

ALL Wall Street

Walmart
all fast food, Mcde's, Jack in the box, Burger king,
all retail - costco, JC penny, mall franchises, etc
All major Mfg's -
All tech
In fact, I cant think of one true small employer at all right now........

those are mostly low paying boring jobs, imo.
 
And your entire argument falls part because they ALL MUST PAY $20 hr. So there is no under cutting on pay.

Well, thank you for answering my question....however indirectly.
 
Take your argument, when you force the minimum wage up, who pays? The consumer pays a higher price for everything, now tell me as an employee that makes over minimum wage where are you going to get the money to pay the higher prices to pay for a higher minimum wage? Because your employer doesn't have to give you nothing.

And then were does the wage slave get the money to buy a car? or a home?

Only middle class wages and people can buy anything.......slaves buy NOTHING>

And the employer WILL PAY BECAUSE ITS THE LAW. And because they really dont like protests and being harrased 24/7 untill they
DO pay. I have personally done this, start the pay suit, but they pay up in 48hrs because of "direct action"!!! LMAO
 
So you want slave labor then. Which is essentially what you get with illegal labor. Well I guess we know what side you come down on. If the company cannot make enough profit to afford workable wages, then perhaps that company shouldn't exist in the first place, yes? Free market and all, though I fear some of y'all say it but don't really understand what it means.

Glad to know you come down on the side wants to destroy the little guy.
 
I think it should be recognized that food stamps are given to people that really have nothing. A Quick Guide to Food Stamp Eligibility and Benefits — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Not only must you have little or no income but you also must have little or no assets. The figures below are based on ZERO income. If you make SOME money, the figures are reduced. The only person I know (that I was in a position to interview) that gets food stamps gets $25 a month worth until this year. This year, her SS income got a raise to $859 and because that took her over $10K a year, she lost her Medicaid and her food stamps. So, being on food stamps is not a happy day. If I didn't provide assistance (my choice) she'd be living in a car instead of a house.

If more and more people are becoming eligible, it's because employers have take advantage of the economy. Nobody gets raises for years at a time although the cost of living, food in particular, keeps rising. Look at the record profits of many corporations and be aware that business sn't that great, they make profits by paying workers less and outsourcing many jobs.

For all the antagonism toward unions, if it wasn't for unions they pay rates would be so low that far more people would be on food stamps.

Of all the "welfare" programs, food stamps (IMHO) are the least offensive and least destructive so I wonder why they get so much attention.




SNAP expects families receiving benefits to spend 30 percent of their net income on food. Families with no net income receive the maximum benefit, which equals the cost of the USDA Thrifty Food Plan (a diet plan intended to provide adequate nutrition at a minimal cost). For all other households, the monthly SNAP benefit equals the maximum benefit for that household size minus the household's expected contribution.
Maximum SNAP Benefits by Household Size Average Monthly Benefit
Household Size Maximum Monthly SNAP Benefit, 2012 Average Monthly Benefit, FY 10
1 $200 $152
2 $367 $277
3 $526 $401
4 $668 $496
5 $793 $581
6 $952 $702
7 $1052 $719
Each Additional Person $150
The table shows the maximum SNAP benefit levels in fiscal year 2012 for households of different sizes. Beginning in April 2009, the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (ARRA) temporarily raised the maximum benefit levels to 13.6 percent above the 2009 Thrifty Food Plan. [7] Take as an example a family of three: if that family had no income, it would receive the maximum benefit of $526 per month; if it had $600 in net monthly income, it would receive the maximum benefit ($526) minus 30 percent of its net income (30 percent of $600 is $180), or $346.
 
A lot of you don't know anything.

Ancient Rome had the best military of it's day. In the end, it meant nothing. The Ancient Romans debased their money so much (denarius... Silver coins basically) that the military eventually turned it's back on Rome. Power means zero if your money is worthless. The awesome power of America will never be matched. That doesn't matter squat if the US Dollar dies (dramatically lose it's buying power). People constantly miss the nasty consequences of a debased currency. They simply see prices skyrocketing without making the connection to the dying dollar. Do not forget this in the future. America already spends more on military matters than the rest of the world and do not even make enough stuff to pay for that. We are sending more money out than earning it right now ( been like this for a long time). The US military is rapidly bankrupting America right now. The military are a giant bureaucracy right now. None of the awesome weapons mean anything if the US Dollar are going to die. Sorry to depress you.
 
Glad to know you come down on the side wants to destroy the little guy.

I'm on the side of free market. Which will destroy the little guy if the little guy is engaged in service which cannot be sustained.
 
I'm on the side of free market. Which will destroy the little guy if the little guy is engaged in service which cannot be sustained.

You're not on the side of a free market, if you support the governmet forcing a $20 per hour minimum wage on the private sector.
 
You're not on the side of a free market, if you support the governmet forcing a $20 per hour minimum wage on the private sector.

I didn't say anything about a 20 dollar/hr minimum wage. I had, in fact, said that the federal minimum wage is under 8 dollars/hr and that lawn care could likely support 10 dollar/hr wages.
 
I'm on the side of free market. Which will destroy the little guy if the little guy is engaged in service which cannot be sustained.

I am for the free market too. Which markets are giving away the freebies:roll:
 
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