Egypt and U.S. near deal on debt relief

sharon said:

The only thing you know about the ME is when a riot breaks out in some slum.

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Yeah, sure, you can read my mind and thus know exactly what I know about the middle east. :roll: Wow, two posters in a row that have psychic abilities.

Arbo said:

Muslim Brotherhood seeks end to Israel treaty - Washington Times

A desire to end a peace treaty if Israel doesn't 'improve the lot of the Palestinians'. In the past they have supported Hamas. You can do a little math and see what very well might happen.

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Good source. You got me there now I have to back pedal a little bit. Some members of the MB seek to end the peace treaty with Israel but so far Mohammed Morsi does not appear to be one of them, of course its only natural for Israel to keep its eye on the developing situation in Egypt however I'm sure they recognize that all members of the Brotherhood do not think entirely the same as your source demonstrates.

While its important what the Party of the President thinks, just like how its important what the Dems think because Obama is a Dem, what's ultimately important is what the President does and I don't see any reason or indication that Morsi is seeking a war with Israel or to do anything but maintain the status quo for the most part.

That may be the case. Or the 'bad' parts of the party may push him otherwise. Only time will tell. But being newly in power, in a country that formerly received funding from the US, the expedient thing to do at first is do and say whatever is needed to keep that cash flow going.

I would be extremely surprised if Egypt abrogated the peace treaty with Israel. Also the Washington Post article is from February of 2011 and comes from a member of the Muslim Brotherhood who is not involved in executive governance, and is a minority statement when compared to the forceful rhetoric coming from Mursi and SCAF. Again, I'd be stunned if they managed to gather the legislative and executive muster to abrogate the treaty. Revise it? Quite possibly. Unilaterally revise it? Again possible. But abrogate? I don't think so.

Sherman123 said:

I would be extremely surprised if Egypt abrogated the peace treaty with Israel. Also the Washington Post article is from February of 2011 and comes from a member of the Muslim Brotherhood who is not involved in executive governance, and is a minority statement when compared to the forceful rhetoric coming from Mursi and SCAF. Again, I'd be stunned if they managed to gather the legislative and executive muster to abrogate the treaty. Revise it? Quite possibly. Unilaterally revise it? Again possible. But abrogate? I don't think so.

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Unilaterally revise but not rescind? Sounds like a difference without a distinction.

washunut said:

Unilaterally revise but not rescind? Sounds like a difference without a distinction.

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Not really, let me explain what I mean. I would be stunned if they declared the peace accord null and void, and severed relations. I do not think that will happen absent some truly radical series of events. However the Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty has many more stipulations than just declaring peace. For example it places limitations on Egypt's ability to build bases in the Sinai or unilaterally deploy troops or types of equipment. I could see a scenario where to curry votes and exert sovereignty (not to mention evolving security situations) by abrogating those portions of the treaty, or bending it.

Sherman123 said:

Not really, let me explain what I mean. I would be stunned if they declared the peace accord null and void, and severed relations. I do not think that will happen absent some truly radical series of events. However the Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty has many more stipulations than just declaring peace. For example it places limitations on Egypt's ability to build bases in the Sinai or unilaterally deploy troops or types of equipment. I could see a scenario where to curry votes and exert sovereignty (not to mention evolving security situations) by abrogating those portions of the treaty, or bending it.

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Well they have for intents and purposes already closed the Israeli embassy in Cairo. They now have troops and for a while had tanks in the Sinai. They have an ex? member of the Muslim Brotherhood who just fired the top generals. Their country is an economic mess. Who better to blame than Israel. Not that something will happen next week, but especially if Obama is reelected, the next four years will be a prefect time for Egypt to become much more hostile to Israel.