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Tutu: Bush, Blair should face trial at the Hague

It's worse than that. The real reason they want him? They don't like him or his politics, period. It's so stupid I can't believe people still harp on this silliness.

Those people need to get over it and move on. He has been out of office how long now?

Very true-its sad that some AMERICANS would disrespect their COUNTRY because they are upset that GORE was unable to steal the election

I cannot stand Obama as a president but GOD HELP any nation that was to DISRESPECT our nation and our (hopefully FORMER) President in the future
 
It's worse than that. The real reason they want him? They don't like him or his politics, period. It's so stupid I can't believe people still harp on this silliness.

Those people need to get over it and move on. He has been out of office how long now?
Well...in fairness...THESE guys all knew he 'lied'...

destruction…

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” — From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

“This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” — From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

“Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities” — From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

“Saddam’s goal … is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed.” — Madeline Albright, 1998

“(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983″ — National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

“Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement.” — Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability.” — Robert Byrd, October 2002

“There’s no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat… Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He’s had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001… He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn’t have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we.” — Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

“What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad’s regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs.” — Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

And I especially like this guy...

“The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow.” — Bill Clinton in 1998
 
The entire intelligence community thought Saddam, had WMD's. Including Russia, Britain, US and Israel.

Yes, they did. I hate revisionist history.
 
:doh

Citizens arrest warrants? The international JOKE of a tribunal? They are mad because some of their relatives etc, got killed in Iraq? Or because they want to prosecute Bush for torture etc, but the terrorists lopping of heads etc get a pass? :lol:

Some people REALLY need to fact check before, do I really have to say anything?

Read and learn...

European law enforcement officials and other experts say the chances of George W. Bush being arrested on war crimes charges in Switzerland--or anyplace else on the continent--are almost nil.

Headlines and assertions by human rights groups that the former president risked a “possible arrest warrant” if he traveled to Geneva to give a speech this weekend were overblown, those with direct experience in such matters said.
- SpyTalk - Bush not at risk of arrest in Europe, experts say :2wave:

PS The reason warrants were never issued is because the United States is not a party to the Rome Statute.


Look again in march of this year Cheney high tailed it out of Canada and cancelled the rest of his trip because he was afraid of being arrested.
 
Look again in march of this year Cheney high tailed it out of Canada and cancelled the rest of his trip because he was afraid of being arrested.


One must really hate America to take glee in such idiocy.
 
Look again in march of this year Cheney high tailed it out of Canada and cancelled the rest of his trip because he was afraid of being arrested.

You have got to stop before you lose all credibility, ooops to late....

Former U.S. vice-president Dick Cheney has cancelled a Canadian speaking appearance due to security concerns sparked by demonstrations during a visit he made to Vancouver last fall, the event promoter said Monday. - Dick Cheney cancels Toronto visit over security concerns - Toronto - CBC News

:lol:
 
One must really hate America to take glee in such idiocy.

It's worse than that, it's not even true. It's what they would LIKE to believe and end up looking uninformed to say the least.
 
If there is proof that Bush knew the WMD intelligence was false, why wasn't he impeached? I'm sick of that accusation, personally.

The thing about conspiracy theories is...
 
Why wasn't he impeached??

Salon. Really?

If you don't like Salon, here is another one.

Author claims Bush knew Iraq had no WMD

Journalist Ron Suskind says Bush ordered forgery linking Saddam, al-Qaeda
By Bob Considine
TODAY contributor

updated 8/5/2008 9:19:19 AM ET


President Bush committed an impeachable offense by ordering the CIA to to manufacture a false pretense for the Iraq war in the form of a backdated, handwritten document linking Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, an explosive new book claims.

The charge is made in “The Way of the World: A Story of Truth and Hope in an Age of Extremism” by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ron Suskind, released today.

Author: Bush knew Iraq had no WMD - TODAY News - TODAY.com
 


The strange thing was that Bush and Blair all got their second term even though the WMD accusation was proved a lie. The election machine is manipulated, so be the International Criminal Court. It is used to deal with "enemy" and will never apply on its creater.


Screw that. I think Bush at best was ignorant of the WMD, in likelihood I think our intelligence knew well enough and they were looking for a reason to invade. That being said, I don't support throwing Bush to the International Community. He was our President, our problem.
 
If you don't like Salon, here is another one.

It's a good article but still a theory as the writer admits. No proof that is solid outside of unnamed sources and the named sources who also have theory's and state as much. I tend to think if the Israelis and Russians said Saddam had WMD's, and the Russians by no means supported the invasion. It sort of throws "theory's" out the window for now.
 
Tutu is behind time. This was suggested some four years ago. Perhaps his Nobel peace price cash windfall has diminished now.
 
Screw that. I think Bush at best was ignorant of the WMD, in likelihood I think our intelligence knew well enough and they were looking for a reason to invade. That being said, I don't support throwing Bush to the International Community. He was our President, our problem.

Based-on what I have read, that is exactly what happened. Funny, but it seems Bush was a victim of his own administration.
 
Screw that. I think Bush at best was ignorant of the WMD, in likelihood I think our intelligence knew well enough and they were looking for a reason to invade. That being said, I don't support throwing Bush to the International Community. He was our President, our problem.

Heard that story no less than a thousand times.
 
Tutu's trying to make himself relevant again in the post-apartheid era by beating a dead horse. His energies are far more needed in the cesspool his country has become. There at least he might have some standing among older blacks.
 
lol coming from one of the most corrupt nations on Earth Tutu?
I served in Basra Iraq and for the most part my conscience is clean so put up or shut up!
 
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