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Buffett Gives Kids Foundations $3 billion

TurtleDude said:
He's a fraudulent turd whose main goal is to get as many people as possible kissing his ass while screwing over the almost rich in order to buy the adulation of the parasite class
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Guys like Buffett know there are better financial guys out there, but aren't going to risk prison and loss of license to compete so they cut off the smaller firms and earners to corner the market. Corporations, large banks, financial, and I suspect large legal partnerships have engaged in this behavior for years.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Ahhhh thats not what I said.:confused: Anybody who did the same thing would have my ire regardless their affiliation. If Romney did it he have me all over him, and sure as hell wouldnt get my vote he's barely getting it as is. Maybee I didnt make that clear enough previously.
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How is the Romney manipulation of the tax code any different in fundamental ends than this is?
 
TurtleDude said:
the difference is that Romney doesn't whine about the tax system while using it to his advantage and demanding others pay more

Buffett is an asshole-he whines about his 300K a year secretary paying a higher effective income tax rate than he does because he intentionally structured his compensation to have an artificially low amount of salary.
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So the basic problem you have is that Buffet takes a different political stance on the issue of taxation that you do and NOT what he has done to avoid taxation?
 
Empirica said:
"Buffett Gives Kids Foundations $3 billion"

Why is it that whenever someone like Warren Buffet or George Soros does something decent, I have suspicions of some possible ulterior motive?!

Most likely my skepticism is the result of a mistrust of people who support anti-american politics and demonstrate an affinity for big government_
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More evidence that this is merely about bashing ones political enemies while defending their allies who do the same thing.
 
haymarket said:
So the basic problem you have is that Buffet takes a different political stance on the issue of taxation that you do and NOT what he has done to avoid taxation?
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I will try to explain it even more simply.

Buffett to taxes is like bible thumpers who are getting hummers in a public restroom are to family values
 
poweRob said:
Just gotta get this straight... when Romney donates to the Mormon church, he's to be revered for his charity but when Warren Buffett gives $3 billion to a kid's foundation he is to be scoffed at.

Man this political stuff is confusing.
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The Leftists don't mind scoffing at Romney for donating money to his kids.
 
TurtleDude said:
He's a fraudulent turd whose main goal is to get as many people as possible kissing his ass while screwing over the almost rich in order to buy the adulation of the parasite class
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So your response is to viciously attack him for his political positions while defending the actions of your allies who do the exact same thing.
 
haymarket said:
So your response is to viciously attack him for his political positions while defending the actions of your allies who do the exact same thing.
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My allies don't want to jack my taxes up while doing everything possible to avoid paying taxes themselves
 
TurtleDude said:
I will try to explain it even more simply.

Buffett to taxes is like bible thumpers who are getting hummers in a public restroom are to family values
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We get it perfectly that you rip into him because he is your political enemy while you defend others who achieve the same ends with tax code manipulation.
 
TurtleDude said:
My allies don't want to jack my taxes up while doing everything possible to avoid paying taxes themselves
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Ah - so this is not about Buffet - its about Turtle. This is about your taxes and what is good for you.

Thank you for making that clear.

It is at least consistent that your motivations for all the positions you take on tax issues has not changed one bit over the years.
 
TurtleDude said:
My allies don't want to jack my taxes up while doing everything possible to avoid paying taxes themselves
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Buffett supporters seem to miss the crux of the matter, it's all about Buffett's "Do as I say not as I do" attitude.
 
haymarket said:
We get it perfectly that you rip into him because he is your political enemy while you defend others who achieve the same ends with tax code manipulation.
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Do you think ignoring the obvious and patent points others make is a sound DEBATE tactic?

OTHERS DO NOT CALL FOR TAXES ON THE RICH to be higher while using their power to avoid lots of taxes

I guess you didn't understand my point about that asshole's oozing hypocrisy

he wants others-those not powerful enough to structure their compensation into the lowest possible form of taxable income-to pay more while he pays himself a salary that is below what a GS-15 public sector worker earns
 
I have no problem with how rich Buffett is, or how much he leaves his kids, or how much he gives to charities, or thus how much tax he doesn't pay .. even if I "should" have a problem with it.

What I would have a problem with would be whether the charities he supports are to help U.S. citizens, many more of whom since The Great Recession are suffering thanks to the so-called "global economy" ..

.. Or whether he's frittering it away on trying to impossibly rescue the unrescuable in foreign lands, like Bill Gates does, when so many Americans continue to so greatly suffer economically, health-wise, etc., struggling to survive in the face of being sub-prime-securities betrayed by similarly-statured fellow Americans.

We need to keep American dollars here working for the benefit of Americans, and not inflate our currency by dumping it into the the black holes of countries that will never really lift a finger to try to solve their own problems .. except to extend an upward palm in expectation of charity.
 
LaMidRighter said:
Buffett supporters seem to miss the crux of the matter, it's all about Buffett's "Do as I say not as I do" attitude.
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Yes Haymarket has deliberately ignored that point several times. Buffett is an gaping hypocrite
 
LaMidRighter said:
Buffett is saying "Let's play a nice game of tap football" while telling his team to chop block at the knees.
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How hard will the Libbos tout the Buffet Rule, now? :rofl
 
TurtleDude said:
Do you think ignoring the obvious and patent points others make is a sound DEBATE tactic?

OTHERS DO NOT CALL FOR TAXES ON THE RICH to be higher while using their power to avoid lots of taxes

I guess you didn't understand my point about that asshole's oozing hypocrisy

he wants others-those not powerful enough to structure their compensation into the lowest possible form of taxable income-to pay more while he pays himself a salary that is below what a GS-15 public sector worker earns
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Pointing out the obvious here is indeed a solid debate tactic since it seems to have been ignored before I did it.

This thread has one main purpose that is evident on every page and I thank you for making it crystal clear in your own many posts: this is about attacking your political enemies which defending and excusing ones political allies for the achieving the same ends by manipulation of the tax code.

This is like a Las Vegas street walker being called vile names by the Las Vegas call girl because the dollar figures are a bit different. In the end, the same occupation is applied to both.
 
TurtleDude said:
Yes Haymarket has deliberately ignored that point several times. Buffett is an gaping hypocrite
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Buffet is not here to defend his actions or anything else. The ones who are here are people like yourself and others who seem to only see one thing above all else: somebody you hate politically. You then engage in your own hypocrisy by ripping Buffet a new one when in other threads are more than eager to defend those on your side you achieve much the same ends with the manipulation of the tax code.
 
haymarket said:
Pointing out the obvious here is indeed a solid debate tactic since it seems to have been ignored before I did it.

This thread has one main purpose that is evident on every page and I thank you for making it crystal clear in your own many posts: this is about attacking your political enemies which defending and excusing ones political allies for the achieving the same ends by manipulation of the tax code.

This is like a Las Vegas street walker being called vile names by the Las Vegas call girl because the dollar figures are a bit different. In the end, the same occupation is applied to both.
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My allies are those who want to keep my tax rates lower than what Obama and other parasiters and taxers want


so how are are they hypocritical?
 
haymarket said:
Buffet is not here to defend his actions or anything else. The ones who are here are people like yourself and others who seem to only see one thing above all else: somebody you hate politically. You then engage in your own hypocrisy by ripping Buffet a new one when in other threads are more than eager to defend those on your side you achieve much the same ends with the manipulation of the tax code.
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again you fail because a those other people aren't seeking to jack up the taxes of people like me in an attempt to gain the butt kissing of the masses
 
haymarket said:
Buffet is not here to defend his actions or anything else. The ones who are here are people like yourself and others who seem to only see one thing above all else: somebody you hate politically. You then engage in your own hypocrisy by ripping Buffet a new one when in other threads are more than eager to defend those on your side you achieve much the same ends with the manipulation of the tax code.
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Holy crap! That makes everyone off limits! :rofl

You say that and then attack Turtledude?

A word comes to mind right at this moment. What is it? Oh yeah...wow! That's the word I was looking for. :rofl
 
TurtleDude said:
My allies are those who want to keep my tax rates lower than what Obama and other parasiters and taxers want


so how are are they hypocritical?
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It is YOU who rip into Buffet in this thread while defending other wealthy people like Romney in other threads who use the tax code to their advantage who are being hypocritical.

Yes Turtle, I have understood for a long long time now that your decisions about the tax code and what is good for America and 311 million people are based solely on what is good for you personally. Low taxes for Turtle = a very good thing and you get behind it regardless of the principle or scheme behind it. Higher taxes for Turtle - evil and bad and you slam it regardless of the principle or scheme behind it. The plethora of posts you have made on this subject have been published by me and others many many times and they are clear and unmistakable evidence of our motivations.
 
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