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Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

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Riley is special agent in charge of the Drug Enforcement Administration Office in Chicago and in four neighboring states.

Daily turf battles over drugs and distribution, he said, are turning parts of this Midwest city into a Mexican border town.

"One of the hardest jobs I've had in the past couple of years is to convince our law enforcement partners that we need an enforcement mentality as if we're on the border," Riley said.

Miles away, Riley says, Mexican cartels have a significant influence in Chicago's gang violence problem.

More than ever, Chicago's problem is turning into a Midwest problem. Cartel operations are also spreading to Milwaukee, St. Louis and Detroit.

Mexican drug cartels fight turf battles in Chicago - CBS News

murder is up 30% in the windy city this year

obama 2 weeks ago---at a fundraiser, naturally: chicago is an example of what makes this country great

Obama: 'Chicago Is an Example of What Makes This Country Great' | The Weekly Standard

meanwhile house speaker mike madigan thursday took a second $100,000 from the seiu on the morrow of killing pension reform

Madigan reports $100,000 more from union with members opposed to pension reform - Sun-Times Politics

folks in the burbs are watching on tv, nitely newscasts must by unutterably ugly

cook county, according to a mckeon poll published this week, has moved forty one points away from barack hussein obama since that glorious nite at grant park

Shock poll: Cook County | The Daily Caller

4 years ago obama took cook, 76 to 23

a similar phenomena prevails in the suburbs of philly, denver, detroit... each of which moved 20 to 30 points towards red between 2008 and tsunami tuesday, november, 2010

President Map - Election Results 2008 - The New York Times

even the reliably blue regions surrounding the city of angels has swung as dramatically

California Senate election results

chicago's troubles plague all our big cities

the suburban vote has abandoned obama ubiquitously

the same mckeon poll finds 20% of chicagoans blame gangs for the wave of violence, 13% attribute the bloodshed to weak parenting, 12% the economy, 8% the cops, and 6% put the onus on guns

Chicagoans Blame Gangs For Increase In Violence Not Guns | The Daily Caller

six percent...

in chicago

you'd never know it from the nets and nyt

worry
 
I wonder if these are the same "Chicago values" Rahm Immanuel talked about a couple weeks ago?

A L
 
Mexican drug cartels fight turf battles in Chicago - CBS News

murder is up 30% in the windy city this year

obama 2 weeks ago---at a fundraiser, naturally: chicago is an example of what makes this country great

Obama: 'Chicago Is an Example of What Makes This Country Great' | The Weekly Standard

meanwhile house speaker mike madigan thursday took a second $100,000 from the seiu on the morrow of killing pension reform

Madigan reports $100,000 more from union with members opposed to pension reform - Sun-Times Politics

folks in the burbs are watching on tv, nitely newscasts must by unutterably ugly

cook county, according to a mckeon poll published this week, has moved forty one points away from barack hussein obama since that glorious nite at grant park

Shock poll: Obama could lose Illinois | The Daily Caller

4 years ago obama took cook, 76 to 23

a similar phenomena prevails in the suburbs of philly, denver, detroit... each of which moved 20 to 30 points towards red between 2008 and tsunami tuesday, november, 2010

President Map - Election Results 2008 - The New York Times

even the reliably blue regions surrounding the city of angels has swung as dramatically

California Senate election results

chicago's troubles plague all our big cities

the suburban vote has abandoned obama ubiquitously

the same mckeon poll finds 20% of chicagoans blame gangs for the wave of violence, 13% attribute the bloodshed to weak parenting, 12% the economy, 8% the cops, and 6% put the onus on guns

Chicagoans Blame Gangs For Increase In Violence Not Guns | The Daily Caller

six percent...

in chicago

you'd never know it from the nets and nyt

worry

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He's back!
 
Remember the Miller-Budweiser turf wars of '06?

Oh wait, that's right, it never happened because alcohol doesn't have a 10,000% profit margin subsidized by the DEA.
 
Make drugs legal...and 95+% of the drug violence ends (imo).
 
No, they aren't.

Okay, what values are they?

I notice our boy Immanuel has nothing to say. I guess Chick is an easy target and one doesn't have to do the job of mayor attacking a business that employs people. But doing the job about killing people requires effort.

Al would have loved this.

A L
 
Okay, what values are they?

I notice our boy Immanuel has nothing to say. I guess Chick is an easy target and one doesn't have to do the job of mayor attacking a business that employs people. But doing the job about killing people requires effort.

Al would have loved this.

A L

Please explain what a mayor's position on a corporate executive stance on gay marriage has to deal with drug cartels from Mexico and drug policy is decided by the federal government.
 
I don't get it. When a Republican is president - inner city violence is the fault of the lazy immigrants/black people living in the city who don't want a job. When a Democrat is in office, inner city violence is the fault of the Democrat for letting the immigrant people they let into the country. So when is it the fault of rabid right wing Republicans who criminalize the drug trade?
 
I wonder if these are the same "Chicago values" Rahm Immanuel talked about a couple weeks ago?

windy city values:

4 weeks ago: Rahm welcomes help from Farrakahn, ignores anti-Semitic remarks - Chicago Sun-Times

no fried chicken sandwiches---but calypso hate is always a help

free speech, y'know

odd---calypso louis despises and thunders against gay marriage

meanwhile americans, between bites of popcorn nuggets, are watching

seeya at the polls, progressives---starting in cook co
 
There is a lot of corruption, everywhere. Not just the Chicago area.
 
So when is it the fault of rabid right wing Republicans who criminalize the drug trade?

Huh? When did the majority of Democrats start supporting drug legalization?
 
Please explain what a mayor's position on a corporate executive stance on gay marriage has to deal with drug cartels from Mexico and drug policy is decided by the federal government.

Okay, since you don't get it ... here it is. Motor mouth (aka Emmanuel) can blabber and spout about Chick and come up with garbage like "it's not the Chicago way". Plenty of time to run his mouth on this minor, minor issue. However, people actually getting murdered in the street, which should be a major, major issue warrants silence from the otherwise motor mouth. The mayor apparently is worried about an opinion about gay marriage far more than actual human life. By the way, it seems as if you miss the point about people being killed and try to obfuscate the issue with "drug policy".

Hopefully you get the picture.

A L
 
Careful ... it might be the plank next to gay marriage in the Dim Party platform.

A L

If Obama comes out for drug legalization I'll vote for him. It will never happen, though, because it will mean a much smaller government!
 
Okay, since you don't get it ... here it is. Motor mouth (aka Emmanuel) can blabber and spout about Chick and come up with garbage like "it's not the Chicago way". Plenty of time to run his mouth on this minor, minor issue. However, people actually getting murdered in the street, which should be a major, major issue warrants silence from the otherwise motor mouth. The mayor apparently is worried about an opinion about gay marriage far more than actual human life. By the way, it seems as if you miss the point about people being killed and try to obfuscate the issue with "drug policy".

Hopefully you get the picture.

A L

Well the reason for the gang violence is because recreational drugs remain illegal. And they are illegal under federal law. Which is determined by the federal government. Which the mayor of Chicago has no control over.

Besides, if you're going to get onto Rahm Emanuel for wasting time on talking about Chik-Fil-A's executives lobbying to prevent gay marriage, the GOP's platform is demanding a constitutional amendment to criminalize all abortions rather than come up with effective methods of dealing with the Mexican drug cartels.

So your side is just as bad, if not worse.
 
Well the reason for the gang violence is because recreational drugs remain illegal. And they are illegal under federal law. Which is determined by the federal government. Which the mayor of Chicago has no control over.

Hold on there, what you call recreational drugs are illegal because of federal, state and local law. To this day I'm aware of no locality or state that has carried or had an initiative to legalize all recreational drugs. Certainly none has passed. But pot, it's been decriminalized in many places despite that the federal law hasn't changed one bit.

There's a reason drugs like cocaine and heroin were made prescription items, a good deal of our population was addicted at one time in our history - we don't need to return to that. The Chinese had to do the same with opium for the same reasons.
 
Hold on there, what you call recreational drugs are illegal because of federal, state and local law. To this day I'm aware of no locality or state that has carried or had an initiative to legalize all recreational drugs. Certainly none has passed. But pot, it's been decriminalized in many places despite that the federal law hasn't changed one bit.

There's a reason drugs like cocaine and heroin were made prescription items, a good deal of our population was addicted at one time in our history - we don't need to return to that. The Chinese had to do the same with opium for the same reasons.

Yes, marijuana has, indeed, had decriminalization efforts successful in California and Oregon. And the Attorney General has threatened to prosecute state officials for not enforcing federal laws.

And people will use recreational drugs whether they are illegal or not. Just like people drank alcohol before, during, and after Prohibition whether it was legal or not.

And if an addict is such an adverse part of society, well, so are people who are mentally ill. But we aren't spending the same billions to provide the mentally ill with needed medication and therapy that we are spending to keep people from getting high every so often.
 
Yes, marijuana has, indeed, had decriminalization efforts successful in California and Oregon. And the Attorney General has threatened to prosecute state officials for not enforcing federal laws.

And there's a reason all they ever do is threaten, because it's an empty threat.

And people will use recreational drugs whether they are illegal or not. Just like people drank alcohol before, during, and after Prohibition whether it was legal or not.

That truism is no argument for or against legalization. Historically people will committ many different actions whether legal or not. Doesn't mean we want to legalize say, murder.

And if an addict is such an adverse part of society, well, so are people who are mentally ill. But we aren't spending the same billions to provide the mentally ill with needed medication and therapy that we are spending to keep people from getting high every so often.

And children are going hungry, and the roads need better paving. Just because other things need doing doesn't mean we can do nothing until everything can be done simulaneously. And yes, they ARE an "adverse part of society" and we do not wish to make that part grow. Addicts by their very addicition aren't "getting high every so often", and it's not recreational with them anymore, it's necessity. This is addiction we're talking about.
 
Make drugs legal. What about that 10,000% profit margin?

Profits are what makes america (and chicago) great. You can't make a profit omelet without breaking some eggs.



Make drugs legal...and 95+% of the drug violence ends (imo).
 
why did over-his-head obama promote to secretary of education that dismal failure from the chicago schools, arne duncan, who couldn't even get the kids to and from class alive

Murder rate jumps in 2008 | abc7chicago.com

out-of-his-element obama at a big shoulders fundraiser two weeks ago---an example of what makes america great

don't eat fried chicken

if you won't abstain for ellen, do it for michelle
 
And there's a reason all they ever do is threaten, because it's an empty threat.

And yet it's a threat that keeps local and state officials from assert the desires of their constituency to legalize recreational drugs.



That truism is no argument for or against legalization. Historically people will committ many different actions whether legal or not. Doesn't mean we want to legalize say, murder.

Except that murder is the infringement of one's right to life on another. The use of recreational drugs is no infringement on the rights of another person, and people can make the free choice to determine whether they themselves choose to use recreational drugs or not.

And children are going hungry, and the roads need better paving. Just because other things need doing doesn't mean we can do nothing until everything can be done simulaneously. And yes, they ARE an "adverse part of society" and we do not wish to make that part grow. Addicts by their very addicition aren't "getting high every so often", and it's not recreational with them anymore, it's necessity. This is addiction we're talking about.

No, this is gang violence we're talking about, as gang kill each other and innocent bystanders in order to control the recreational drug trade because only gangs will deal in that market.

And it's also prison violence we're talking about, as users of recreational drugs that are arrested and convicted are at the mercy of prisoners guilty of harsher crimes.

And it's also social welfare we're talking about, as recreational drug users who are convicted now have a felony on their records, and many of the biggest corporations flatly refuse to higher anyone guilty of any felony. Which means that ex-convicts with a drug conviction have trouble getting hired, which means they can't make their own way in life. Which is why they resort to crime to make ends meet, and may go back to using drugs in order to cope with the stresses they deal with.
 
And once again, addicts are not recreational users and many of those drugs that are schedule 1 are physically addictive. We are not talking about pot here which was made illegal for wholly different reasons than the other schedule 1 drugs. Addicts DO have an adverse effect upon the society around them. And you can't duck the fact that when these drugs were uncontrolled they addicted a good portion of our nation.

I'm fine with talk (followed by action) of changing the sentencing and increasing availability of rehab for those who cannot afford it themselves. But legalize crack, meth? No way is that a positive change.
 
And once again, addicts are not recreational users and many of those drugs that are schedule 1 are physically addictive. We are not talking about pot here which was made illegal for wholly different reasons than the other schedule 1 drugs. Addicts DO have an adverse effect upon the society around them. And you can't duck the fact that when these drugs were uncontrolled they addicted a good portion of our nation.

I'm fine with talk (followed by action) of changing the sentencing and increasing availability of rehab for those who cannot afford it themselves. But legalize crack, meth? No way is that a positive change.

Tobacco has a bigger adverse affect on people than illegal drugs do, and nicotine in cigarettes is more addictive than heroin, but cigarettes remain legal.

Likewise, use of sugars in processed foods has a bigger adverse affect on people than illegal drugs do, as our society is becoming more obese and cases of diabetes rise which is a strain on the cost of health care. But use of sugar in processed foods is addictive but remains unregulated.

Caffeine is an addictive substance, but we do not regulate how much sodas children drink, even though sodas have other deleterious health affects when consumed in large amounts.

So if we're going to go after all addictive substances then let's go after all the addictive substances.

Otherwise, legalize them all, educate people on the effects of recreational drugs, and leave them alone to live their lives as they see fit.
 
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