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Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons

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President Threatens Military Response Against Against Any Use of the Banned Arms

'WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama threatened military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad if his forces attempt to use chemical or biological weapons, the strongest indication yet Mr. Obama would consider intervening in the grinding conflict.

The president's message appeared aimed at signaling to Mr. Assad that an American military option is open, but U.S. officials hoped the threat would be enough to dissuade the Syrian leader from using such weapons.'

Obama Warns Syria on Chemical Weapons - WSJ.com
 
Sounds like what Obama is really saying is:

'Hey Rebels? We want to help you...now give us an excuse.

So get hold of some chemical weapons (we will smuggle some to you if you need it), use them on a small group of people (sorry, they must be sacrificed - think of them as martyrs)...include at least one child so the world get TRULY outraged when they see it on the news, make it look like the government did it, make sure you take LOTS of pictures/video of the scene.

And voila - we will then be able to start bombing the bleep out of Assad.'



Yes - my opinion of ALL U.S. Presidents and politics in general is that low.
 
Sounds like what Obama is really saying is:

'Hey Rebels? We want to help you...now give us an excuse.

So get hold of some chemical weapons (we will smuggle some to you if you need it), use them on a small group of people (sorry, they must be sacrificed - think of them as martyrs)...include at least one child so the world get TRULY outraged when they see it on the news, make it look like the government did it, make sure you take LOTS of pictures/video of the scene.

And voila - we will then be able to start bombing the bleep out of Assad.'



Yes - my opinion of ALL U.S. Presidents and politics in general is that low.

That is a ludicrously paranoid perspective. Which means its par for the course on an internet forum.
 
As soon as he said it the Russians and Chinese bitchslapped him back into his corner. And made him them fix them a sammich. And not some healthy tofu and greens wrap like what Michelle makes him eat...a REAL MANS sammich.
 
That is a ludicrously paranoid perspective. Which means its par for the course on an internet forum.

And your link to unbiased evidence that it is 'ludicrously paranoid' is what exactly?

You think I am wrong - fine. I admit I could well be - and I hope I am.

But if I was going to call someone ludicrously paranoid, I would at least have some hard evidence to back it up.

Assuming you do not have any, I guess you don't care about having hard evidence when you accuse/insult others.

Noted.


Have a nice day.
 
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So the message for Bashar is: 'You can kill, but not with WMD'.
 
So the message for Bashar is: 'You can kill, but not with WMD'.

I do not believe anyone is seeking or giving permission in this instance for conventional warfare. Parameters are simply being established.
 
I do not believe anyone is seeking or giving permission in this instance for conventional warfare. Parameters are simply being established.

Not that Bashar has followed the other parameters we have already set up for him.

Us: Don't kill your people.

Them: You right, we shouldn't kill our people. /kills people

Us: Hey...

Them: Crazy times over here. We will get back to you once we get this under control.
 
Not that Bashar has followed the other parameters we have already set up for him.

Us: Don't kill your people.

Them: You right, we shouldn't kill our people. /kills people

Us: Hey...

Them: Crazy times over here. We will get back to you once we get this under control.

Russia has been Syria's ally, IIRC they were not looking to the US or NATO for any permission, condemnation or comment to begin with.
 
Asad won't use any chemical weapons unless he is sure he is going to go down. Once that point has been reach, he will use anything he has because he has nothing else to lose at that point.
 
Russia has been Syria's ally, IIRC they were not looking to the US or NATO for any permission, condemnation or comment to begin with.

My point is Syria isn't listening to the interanational community. Russia, as you point out, is helping them circumvent the international community. We honestly can't set parameters on this guy and expect them to follow it. It feels very 2002ish to me.
 
Asad won't use any chemical weapons unless he is sure he is going to go down. Once that point has been reach, he will use anything he has because he has nothing else to lose at that point.

We said that about Saddam too.
 
We said that about Saddam too.

And he didn't have those "stockpiles" of WMDs as they claimed either did he?. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying we should go invade on the premise he has them. However, I won't disagree with the international community going after him if he actually uses them.
 
And he didn't have those "stockpiles" of WMDs as they claimed either did he?. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying we should go invade on the premise he has them. However, I won't disagree with the international community going after him if he actually uses them.

He did have minor stockpiles of chemical weapons though, as I quoted. Saddam did gas people in a Soccer Stadium. We know he had very minor stockpiles, about 500 munitions of mustard and sarin (sp?) gas. No wmds...still loking for those.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/dni/dni_ltr_wmd_21jun06.pdf

I am just more weary these days of war. Our allies are great, but we seem to foot more of the bill everytime the community wants something. Also, I don't like the amount we go globe trotting in the name of freedom.
 
My point is Syria isn't listening to the interanational community. Russia, as you point out, is helping them circumvent the international community. We honestly can't set parameters on this guy and expect them to follow it. It feels very 2002ish to me.


I agree with this. Even Russia has somewhat distanced themselves from Syria and has been critical of some actions and maneuvers, yet, undaunted Assad carries on.
 
It would be nice if we lived in world that punished things such as war crimes but we don't. The outrage over war crimes is strictly selective to push a political agenda. Much like when we ignored Saddam using chemical weapons against Iran in 1980's. Also, when it comes to Syria don't look for Obama to get outraged over the item below



On 21 March 1986, the United Nations Security Council made a declaration stating that "members are profoundly concerned by the unanimous conclusion of the specialists that chemical weapons on many occasions have been used by Iraqi forces against Iranian troops and the members of the Council strongly condemn this continued use of chemical weapons in clear violation of the Geneva Protocol of 1925 which prohibits the use in war of chemical weapons." The United States was the only member who voted against the issuance of this statement


I say Obama should get another peace prize he's really been gang busters on peace. What's worse is I think Romney will be an even bigger Warmonger than Obama.
 
Who cares if he does use chemical weapons? Let him use them. It's their country, not ours. If he starts using them on America, then we go in.
 
only usa can use nukes:2razz:
 
The warning should have come from the U.N.
 
Obama is bluffing. If Assad calls his bluff and uses chemical weapons, Obama wont "lead from behind" like he did in Libya, but will 'lead from beneath' his desk. But fear not, the moment things appear to be going our way, Obama will reappear and claim credit.
 
And your link to unbiased evidence that it is 'ludicrously paranoid' is what exactly?

You think I am wrong - fine. I admit I could well be - and I hope I am.

But if I was going to call someone ludicrously paranoid, I would at least have some hard evidence to back it up.

Assuming you do not have any, I guess you don't care about having hard evidence when you accuse/insult others.

Noted.


Have a nice day.

Evidence that President Obama isn't concocting a plan to work with the rebels so they can acquire a chemical weapon from fortified Syrian stockpiles and then figure out a way to covertly and anonymously use them on a civilian target to inflict mass casualties so that the US can then have an artificial cassus belli to intervene? No I do not have that evidence, because it is a conspiracy theory of the first class.
 
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