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Middle-class poorer, earned less in 2000s

Will if there were dead middleclass bodies piled 20 high all around you....you would somehow find a way to spin how wonderful the rich is and how those dead middleclass screwed them

:lol: yeah. the CBO saying that our current fiscal path is unsustainable is just part of a plot to extend to rich people the right to start machine gunning the middle class :lamo
 
:lol: yeah. the CBO saying that our current fiscal path is unsustainable is just part of a plot to extend to rich people the right to start machine gunning the middle class :lamo


If they could make a few bucks more and the middleclass wouldnt annihilate them...they would give it a go :)...I bet theres more middleclass marines than rich one percenters :pppppppp
 
More bad news for Romney in the Pew study:

"respondents said Obama's policies were better for the middle class than Romney's by a 52% to 42% margin."
 
Well, we haven't helped unions on the whole, and look where we are. Perhaps you could step up and provide some evidence?

economic reality is stomping the living crap out of manufacturing unions Public sector unions should be banned. and we never should have protected private sector unions--if the workers could get enough to agree with them-then they could dictate terms-if not the employer could fire the unionistas. that is the way it should have been
 
economic reality is stomping the living crap out of manufacturing unions Public sector unions should be banned. and we never should have protected private sector unions--if the workers could get enough to agree with them-then they could dictate terms-if not the employer could fire the unionistas. that is the way it should have been

So, back to social Darwinism my friend? Neutralism? Or????
 
So, back to social Darwinism my friend? Neutralism? Or????

No way to stop it. If you pay more for the same quality labor than your competition you go out of business

public sector unions should be banned even FDR was against them
 
great idea. too many politicians would have a cow.

They would. But continue this path to Corporate Capitalism and you will see class strife only deepen.
 
They would. But continue this path to Corporate Capitalism and you will see class strife only deepen.

sure beats pure democracy though
 
Neither is a good state and neither is free.

Id much rather have more corporatism and less government than we have now.
 
Id much rather have more corporatism and less government than we have now.

I'd rather have free market and less government than we have now. I ain't gonna settle for second fiddle.
 
I'd rather have free market and less government than we have now. I ain't gonna settle for second fiddle.

I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold

Jimmy Page
 
I live for my dreams and a pocket full of gold

Jimmy Page

I live my life to live by my life and the consequences that comes to bear.

ME!
 
I live my life to live by my life and the consequences that comes to bear.

ME!

Its good to look to yourself as the source of you own life roadmap

T
 
Why I have a hard time with these stats is because I'm not sure what's taken into account. For instance, since we've been experiencing heavy immigration, legal and illegal, through our southern border, there should be more people in the lower income ranges, I think. (I don't know this...it's my common sense talking...and could be wrong.) Also, people don't necessarily stay in a class. Lower income moves up to middle income moves up to higher income, ad infinitum. I would think.

Also, I would point out that the top 10% of earners in this country pay 70% of the taxes. How much more do you want them to pay, by the way?

Top 10 Percent of Earners Paid 71 Percent of Federal Income Taxes

Edit: And the reason the middle class lost a median 28% of their net worth is, quite obviously, because of the housing crisis.

19th century racists who blamed the Irish/Italians/Jews for the US' declined would be proud of America's modern right wing continuing the proud old tradition of blaming the immigrants. It is never failed laissez faire policies. Nope. It's always the fault of the new generation of immigrants.
 
economic reality is stomping the living crap out of manufacturing unions Public sector unions should be banned. and we never should have protected private sector unions--if the workers could get enough to agree with them-then they could dictate terms-if not the employer could fire the unionistas. that is the way it should have been

With the help of government.
 
19th century racists who blamed the Irish/Italians/Jews for the US' declined would be proud of America's modern right wing continuing the proud old tradition of blaming the immigrants. It is never failed laissez faire policies. Nope. It's always the fault of the new generation of immigrants.

Mr. Hat, surely you didn't read my response as blaming immigrants -- for anything. It's those loppy-left glasses you're wearing. Straighten 'em out, please; or your brain'll freeze like that.
 
Hardly. But with them hurting as you suggest, where are all those jobs you say would come?

I said jobs would come?

you believe unions could have survived without all that New Deal help?
 
Mr. Hat, surely you didn't read my response as blaming immigrants -- for anything. It's those loppy-left glasses you're wearing. Straighten 'em out, please; or your brain'll freeze like that.

Sure you didn't. You didn't even suggest it. :) Carry on bull****ting yourself.
 
Sure you didn't. You didn't even suggest it. :) Carry on bull****ting yourself.

What?? You think immigrants come over the southern border and immediately join the middle class? Just how cranky are you today, Mr. Hat?
 
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