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California Farm Labor Shortage 'Worst It's Been, Ever'

I think maybe you're over-reacting a bit here sweety_

Actually, we've been in a period of "forced dumming down" for the last few decades_

That would depend on your point of view. If you want educated productive people, then the system has pretty much reached critical failure. If you are trying to produce more people who buy into the politics of the enviromentalist and the Marxians, then it is doing a truely fantastic job.

Since the "social" revolution of the '60s, there has been ever decreasing discipline in schools, greater and greater numbers of people on government assistance, under-educated and in prisons. If it wasn't so tragic, it would funny how as our society becomes more and more Marxian it has become more and more dysfunctional. Nah, those two things couldn't possibly be related, could they?
 
Isn't it racist of you to assume farm labor is primarily composed of illegal Mexicans?

Uhh I live right in the middle of that and uhh yea they are very illeagal Mexicans, Salvadorians, and pretty much everyone else from south of the border. The correct term would be unlawful alien. But none the less they mostly be illeagal. So nope not racist in the least. Unless the truth is racist.
 
I think maybe you're over-reacting a bit here sweety_

Actually, we've been in a period of "forced dumming down" for the last few decades_

Yes, Ikari always over reacts. He is a liberal who allows emotion to rule over logic and often makes such melodramatic quips in an attempt to grab the attention of those who are less educated on an issue.

If Ikari was as outraged by the debt and weaker nation we are about to pass down to our children as he is with the IQ of this nation, he might have a leg to stand on but he isn’t willing to do what those before us did when they made tough choices that included the ultimate sacrifice. He thinks education is more important than values but he fails to realize that values bring us together or drive us apart no matter how educated or uneducated we may be.
 
Isn't it racist of you to assume farm labor is primarily composed of illegal Mexicans?

Facts are not racist, they are what they are. From some view point always associating Mexicans and other Central/South Americans with Illegal immigration is racist. But the fact still remains that they make up the vast majority of Illegal immigrants in the US. 100%, no, but most, yes.

The total of illegal Mexicans in the US dropped after the economic meltdown, even in their sector, jobs were lost. Why has so many illegal immigrant farm laborers disappeared from California? It sure as hell not border security working better. Those jobs are seasonal, without unemployment and welfare, the people doing those jobs had to seek jobs elsewhere after Cali took such a massive hit in their economy. They went elsewhere in the US seeking jobs for the off season and didn't return or some of them were probably in the few million illegals who actually left after the collapse.

Obama's only contribution to border security was to keep the economy on this side of the border so bad that fewer wanted to come here or were able to stay here. While our economy sucking hind tit might be good for discouraging illegal immigration, it's side affects on everything else pretty much, well, suck.
 
Uhh I live right in the middle of that and uhh yea they are very illeagal Mexicans, Salvadorians, and pretty much everyone else from south of the border. The correct term would be unlawful alien. But none the less they mostly be illeagal. So nope not racist in the least. Unless the truth is racist.
One of my favorite pasttimes is to go to one of mexican swap meets and cry out La Immigra in my best mexican accent. Funny as hell. Or go around the swap meet with a fake badge and a border patrol jacket and hat. Even funnier. I wonder is that cruel? Then I go naaaa. :fueltofir :devil:
 
Uhh I live right in the middle of that and uhh yea they are very illeagal Mexicans, Salvadorians, and pretty much everyone else from south of the border. The correct term would be unlawful alien. But none the less they mostly be illeagal. So nope not racist in the least. Unless the truth is racist.

I really can't argue with that. It think it's a shame we can't pay more for our produce if it means we bring the wages up to the level that americans will do the work but i also think it's a shame that Americans can do better on welfare if they choose not to do agricutural work. We are so soft and weak compared to the generations before us.
 
I really can't argue with that. It think it's a shame we can't pay more for our produce if it means we bring the wages up to the level that americans will do the work but i also think it's a shame that Americans can do better on welfare if they choose not to do agricutural work. We are so soft and weak compared to the generations before us.

Solution: Eliminate welfare, cash aid, et all. Then because lazy welfare bums like eating they will find a job. Or starve to death. Probably starve to death, they aint exactly intelligent. Any ways it solves two problems with one stone. The goverments cash flow problem and the obesity problem. :lol:
 
Solution: Eliminate welfare, cash aid, et all. Then because lazy welfare bums like eating they will find a job. Or starve to death. Probably starve to death, they aint exactly intelligent. Any ways it solves two problems with one stone. The goverments cash flow problem and the obesity problem. :lol:

I can’t support that at all. I support time limits and stringent federal work requirements for welfare recipients but eliminating the programs altogether is heartless and extremist IMHO.
 
I can’t support that at all. I support time limits and stringent federal work requirements for welfare recipients but eliminating the programs altogether is heartless and extremist IMHO.

Take away the net so that failure actually hurts. Otherwise everyone just does stupid stuff going "Oh well the net will save me". Danger focuses the mind wonderfully. Its not heartless its compasionate. Extremist is allowing people to languish in poverty for years by giving them just enough to keep them alive and hold them in perpetual bondage. Survival motivates people to make better wiser decisions. The only thing the poor really need is for the goverment get off their necks and let them start to accumulate money. And stop putting roadblocks in their way out of poverty.
 
By the way, people should be responsible for their own charitable giving. The goverment sucks a charity.
 
Isn't it racist of you to assume farm labor is primarily composed of illegal Mexicans?

Where did I mention Mexicans? I made zero mention of Mexicans

I said illegal immigrants, you made the assumption that they were Mexican
 
Where did I mention Mexicans? I made zero mention of Mexicans

I said illegal immigrants, you made the assumption that they were Mexican

Trust me they mostly be mexicans. I should know they live in my back yard. :) Unlawful or illieagal aliens by the way. They are in no way an immigrant.
 
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One of my favorite pasttimes is to go to one of mexican swap meets and cry out La Immigra in my best mexican accent. Funny as hell. Or go around the swap meet with a fake badge and a border patrol jacket and hat. Even funnier. I wonder is that cruel? Then I go naaaa. :fueltofir :devil:

You've never once in your life done this.
 
You've never once in your life done this.

I dont know were you live but I live in the central valley of California, theres a LOT of illeagles here. And yes I have done these things more than once. These guys also used to be hired by unscupulous contractors mainly the bigger corperate ones. I used to install overhead doors when I was younger. One of the things I would do was tell some poor sap that I saw Immigration rolling around. One minute a busy contruction site next pretty much a ghost town. It helps when Immigration really is rolling about, or at least was previously. So yep I've done it lots. I got all sorts of variations on the general theme. I like to do it right around sweep time.:lol:
 
Lets see, California has more than 1.5 million people on welfare and a 10.7% unemployment rate (July 2012). Seems they don't have a farm labour shortage, they have a shortage of people who actually are willing to work.

Here is an idea, take the farmers to the welfare office and start hiring people as they walk in, oh wait, Obama says people on welfare shouldn't have to seek employment. Well, it is California, you know, total lack of common sense and overwhelmingly Liberal. Obama should win that state hands down.

Then get the farmers to provide day care for all these peole on "welfare". And transportation of course.......

In GA they have a stoary about a guy that PAID FOR THE FARMERS Fed required transportation ($3000) to get USA workers to his field.
Then he refused to train them, and did not allow them to work.

Facts dont back up your class war claims, but if you want war........
 
Then get the farmers to provide day care for all these peole on "welfare". And transportation of course.......

In GA they have a stoary about a guy that PAID FOR THE FARMERS Fed required transportation ($3000) to get USA workers to his field.
Then he refused to train them, and did not allow them to work.

Facts dont back up your class war claims, but if you want war........

Wouldnt want them in the fields anyhow they dont know what work is let alone how to actually do it.
 
Wouldnt want them in the fields anyhow they dont know what work is let alone how to actually do it.

So the fat *** farmer is going to get the work done? LMAO

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Look at that GUT!!!
 
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