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Automaker Fisker recalls some 2,400 Karmas for cooling fan issue

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'Fisker Automotive, a green car company that received funding from the U.S. government, is recalling about 2,400 Karma plug-in hybrids to repair a faulty cooling fan unit that was the cause of a vehicle fire in Woodside, California last week.

The Anaheim, California-based automaker, founded in 2007, said the August 10 fire began in front of the left wheel, where the low temperature cooling fan is located. An "internal fault" caused the sealed unit to fail, starting a slow burning fire, Fisker said in a statement on Saturday....

...Earlier this year, the U.S. Department of Energy denied Fisker access to more than half of a $529-million government loan awarded in 2009 due to delays in the Karma launch.'

Automaker Fisker recalls some 2,400 Karmas for cooling fan issue | Reuters
 
Well that's big news.
 
Ah, must be bad karma:2razz:
 
'Fisker Automotive, a green car company that received funding from the U.S. government, is recalling about 2,400 Karma plug-in hybrids to repair a faulty cooling fan unit that was the cause of a vehicle fire in Woodside, California last week.

The Anaheim, California-based automaker, founded in 2007, said the August 10 fire began in front of the left wheel, where the low temperature cooling fan is located. An "internal fault" caused the sealed unit to fail, starting a slow burning fire, Fisker said in a statement on Saturday....

...Earlier this year, the U.S. Department of Energy denied Fisker access to more than half of a $529-million government loan awarded in 2009 due to delays in the Karma launch.'

Automaker Fisker recalls some 2,400 Karmas for cooling fan issue | Reuters

It just keeps rainin' on Obama's parade. Let's see if Romney uses that to some small advantage. That's one hot car, though.

But for over $100K, I guess it should be.

What the heck good does it do to invest in a company that makes a car no one can afford?

Seems like it got $260M from the government; now it's looking for another $150M to stay afloat. Wanna' bet it's on the chopping block right after the election? Or will we give them the other half of the money that was set aside for them that's now on hold?

Automaker Fisker recalls some 2,400 Karmas for cooling fan issue | Reuters
 
It just keeps rainin' on Obama's parade. Let's see if Romney uses that to some small advantage. That's one hot car, though.

But for over $100K, I guess it should be.

What the heck good does it do to invest in a company that makes a car no one can afford?

Seems like it got $260M from the government; now it's looking for another $150M to stay afloat. Wanna' bet it's on the chopping block right after the election? Or will we give them the other half of the money that was set aside for them that's now on hold?

Automaker Fisker recalls some 2,400 Karmas for cooling fan issue | Reuters

Not only the Feds, but the idiot Gov of DE dumped millions of DE tax dollars into Fisker because they were going to build cars at the empty GM plant in Newark, DE and hire HUNDREDS OF OUT OF WORK AUTOWORKERS. Right. The plant is still empty, DE taxpayers are footing the bill for utilities and upkeep ... and the 'out of work autoworkers' in Finland have the jobs.

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Fisker will be the next Delorean. They'll make crappy, expensive cars for a couple years, and then no one will ever hear from them again. It would be no great shame if every single one of those POS Karmas burnt to the ground.

I really hope they don't get their additional funding, for a number of personal and political reasons.
 
Green cars (actually any cars) that cost $100K have a small market and are a foolish product for our gov't to invest in. The party of the "little guy" investing in toys for the rich and famous, using borrowed money and backed by the taxpayers, is insane. Safety recalls are no big deal, since only experience (over time) can show these types of problems. Like all hybrid technology, it is inefficient in either mode; in the electric mode (about the first 32 miles) it must carry the added dead cargo weight/bulk of the IC engine and the fossil fuel source and in the IC mode (all travel beyond 32 miles, and at only 20mpg) it must carry the added dead weight/bulk of the electric power plant and batteries. Since the basic technology is not new, the mileage is poor and the price is high - just what exactly is so good about these cars?
 
It just keeps rainin' on Obama's parade. Let's see if Romney uses that to some small advantage. That's one hot car, though.

But for over $100K, I guess it should be.

What the heck good does it do to invest in a company that makes a car no one can afford?

Seems like it got $260M from the government; now it's looking for another $150M to stay afloat. Wanna' bet it's on the chopping block right after the election? Or will we give them the other half of the money that was set aside for them that's now on hold?

Automaker Fisker recalls some 2,400 Karmas for cooling fan issue | Reuters

What does this have to do with Obama? That's like saying the Toyota recalls hurt the GOP because the GOP supports drilling more oil.
 
What does this have to do with Obama? That's like saying the Toyota recalls hurt the GOP because the GOP supports drilling more oil.

No, the Obama Administration gave a $560M line of credit to this company. They've used $260M of it and are looking for another $150M more. Fortunately, the government has now pulled the plug on that line of credit (for the near term). The recall isn't that significant. Car companies do that all the time. But the fact that they're still in trouble? The fact that the line-of-credit was given to a company that builds $100K+ cars? I'd like to see Obama have to justify that decision in the public eye.
 
No, the Obama Administration gave a $560M line of credit to this company. They've used $260M of it and are looking for another $150M more. Fortunately, the government has now pulled the plug on that line of credit (for the near term). The recall isn't that significant. Car companies do that all the time. But the fact that they're still in trouble? The fact that the line-of-credit was given to a company that builds $100K+ cars? I'd like to see Obama have to justify that decision in the public eye.

Don't forget they took our money and built a factory in.... Finland!

Way to get those manufacturing jobs back in the US!
 
Don't forget they took our money and built a factory in.... Finland!

Way to get those manufacturing jobs back in the US!

They did not build a factory in Finland. Fisker contracted out the assembly of the Karma to Valmet, this was done BEFORE the US government gave out the loan.
 
No, the Obama Administration gave a $560M line of credit to this company. They've used $260M of it and are looking for another $150M more. Fortunately, the government has now pulled the plug on that line of credit (for the near term). The recall isn't that significant. Car companies do that all the time. But the fact that they're still in trouble? The fact that the line-of-credit was given to a company that builds $100K+ cars? I'd like to see Obama have to justify that decision in the public eye.

You think the president personally oversees all of these loans?
 
You think the president personally oversees all of these loans?

Harry Truman had a sign on his desk that said, "The buck stops here". The WH staff DOES see all of this stuff and makes decisions accordingly. Don't try to use this tripe about the Kenyan not knowing or not overseeing. Remember where the buck stops.

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Let's recall that the point of this thread is to point out that 2400 cars are being recalled to replace a cooling fan. But will this earth shattering news be covered by the lamestream media? Nooooooo!

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Fisker will be the next Delorean. They'll make crappy, expensive cars for a couple years, and then no one will ever hear from them again. It would be no great shame if every single one of those POS Karmas burnt to the ground.

I really hope they don't get their additional funding, for a number of personal and political reasons.

delorean made awesome cars,but i wont argue on them being too expensive.delorean made the early supercars that were used as a base design for many cars in the 80's.what killed them was the fact they cost 25k in the late seventies,back when a new car was around 5k or less.

kinda odd though these new electric cars share the same outrageous cost to benefit ratio.
 
delorean made awesome cars,but i wont argue on them being too expensive.delorean made the early supercars that were used as a base design for many cars in the 80's.what killed them was the fact they cost 25k in the late seventies,back when a new car was around 5k or less.

kinda odd though these new electric cars share the same outrageous cost to benefit ratio.

Here's a list of the most expensive cars in the world. Not one of them is electric. The Fisker costs less than one sixth of the cheapest one. And the companies that make these incredibly expensive cars aren't going under. Price is not a problem.
Most Expensive Cars In The World: Top 10 List 2012-2013
 
It just keeps rainin' on Obama's parade. Let's see if Romney uses that to some small advantage. That's one hot car, though.

But for over $100K, I guess it should be.

What the heck good does it do to invest in a company that makes a car no one can afford?

Seems like it got $260M from the government; now it's looking for another $150M to stay afloat. Wanna' bet it's on the chopping block right after the election? Or will we give them the other half of the money that was set aside for them that's now on hold?

Automaker Fisker recalls some 2,400 Karmas for cooling fan issue | Reuters

Technology gets streamlined and perfected through application and use. TV's used to be expensive. Telephone's used to be expensive. Microwave's used to be expensive. It's a new technology. Let it grow.
 
delorean made awesome cars,but i wont argue on them being too expensive.delorean made the early supercars that were used as a base design for many cars in the 80's.what killed them was the fact they cost 25k in the late seventies,back when a new car was around 5k or less.

Well, that and the CEO being accused of helping smuggle cocaine into the US probably didn't help either...:lol:
 
Technology gets streamlined and perfected through application and use. TV's used to be expensive. Telephone's used to be expensive. Microwave's used to be expensive. It's a new technology. Let it grow.

That's what venture capitalists are for, RM.
 
delorean made awesome cars,but i wont argue on them being too expensive.delorean made the early supercars that were used as a base design for many cars in the 80's.what killed them was the fact they cost 25k in the late seventies,back when a new car was around 5k or less.

kinda odd though these new electric cars share the same outrageous cost to benefit ratio.

DeLorean's were 'awesome'?

Maybe to you - not to me.

They were fairly slow (0-60 in about 11 seconds, if I recall) and since they were made of stainless steel, after just a year or two of driving them, up close their bodies looked like old kitchen sinks - not smooth but lots of swirl marks and tiny pits...yuch.
 
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delorean made awesome cars,but i wont argue on them being too expensive.delorean made the early supercars that were used as a base design for many cars in the 80's.what killed them was the fact they cost 25k in the late seventies,back when a new car was around 5k or less.

kinda odd though these new electric cars share the same outrageous cost to benefit ratio.

The engines were vastly underpowered especially for what was supposed to be a sports car
 
Technology gets streamlined and perfected through application and use. TV's used to be expensive. Telephone's used to be expensive. Microwave's used to be expensive. It's a new technology. Let it grow.

There is no new technology here at all, it is simply a fancy wrapper, around a basic hybrid car. The car gets 32 miles per charge and then gets 20mpg. Other than being politically connected, what is the "new tech" involved? This is crony capitalism at its worst and the "comming soon" plant in Newark, DE (Joe Biden's home state) is still not even a reality.
 
There is no new technology here at all, it is simply a fancy wrapper, around a basic hybrid car. The car gets 32 miles per charge and then gets 20mpg. Other than being politically connected, what is the "new tech" involved? This is crony capitalism at its worst and the "comming soon" plant in Newark, DE (Joe Biden's home state) is still not even a reality.

It was supposed to be the first plug in hybrid,
 
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