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***** Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

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BBC News - ***** Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'


Havent seen anything on here about this so I thought I would put up a thread. Pretty disgraceful verdict which has Putin and his old KGB cronies written all over it, I personally find this and other recent developments pretty alarming. In a year where we saw Putin hijack an election with bullying, routine arrests on the oppoisition and intimidation of journalists I have to wonder if Russia will slide back 30 years? Maybe im being a little dramatic but with the recent events you cant help but wonder where exactly Russia is headed?
 
BBC News - ***** Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'


Havent seen anything on here about this so I thought I would put up a thread. Pretty disgraceful verdict which has Putin and his old KGB cronies written all over it, I personally find this and other recent developments pretty alarming. In a year where we saw Putin hijack an election with bullying, routine arrests on the oppoisition and intimidation of journalists I have to wonder if Russia will slide back 30 years? Maybe im being a little dramatic but with the recent events you cant help but wonder where exactly Russia is headed?

Any nation that would squelch a ***** riot has obviously been usurped by a reactionary cabal of commie homosexuals.
 
These ''*****cat's'' message at their concerts is to incite violence. And i do think your being a tad dramatic.:roll:
 
BBC News - ***** Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'

Havent seen anything on here about this so I thought I would put up a thread. Pretty disgraceful verdict which has Putin and his old KGB cronies written all over it, I personally find this and other recent developments pretty alarming. In a year where we saw Putin hijack an election with bullying, routine arrests on the oppoisition and intimidation of journalists I have to wonder if Russia will slide back 30 years? Maybe im being a little dramatic but with the recent events you cant help but wonder where exactly Russia is headed?
Russia never left the old days.
 
These ''*****cat's'' message at their concerts is to incite violence. And i do think your being a tad dramatic.:roll:

Can you provide a source? And it appears they were not arrested for inciting violence but rather for protesting Putin and charged with "hooliganism."
 
Russia never left the old days.

I agree on some levels but Boris Teltsin had them moving in the right direction but slowly they have gone back to the days of old. From what I have seen and heard though there are millions of Russians that wont go quielty into the night
 
Boris Teltsin had them moving in the right direction

LOL the same Boris Yeltsin that dissolved and shelled parliament with tanks effectively creating a dictatorship, whose resistance led directly to the deaths of thousands?
 
To be frank, returning to the old days wouldn't be worse than the present situation (I mean for the Russians, not for the rest of the world)
 
BBC News - ***** Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'


Havent seen anything on here about this so I thought I would put up a thread. Pretty disgraceful verdict which has Putin and his old KGB cronies written all over it, I personally find this and other recent developments pretty alarming. In a year where we saw Putin hijack an election with bullying, routine arrests on the oppoisition and intimidation of journalists I have to wonder if Russia will slide back 30 years? Maybe im being a little dramatic but with the recent events you cant help but wonder where exactly Russia is headed?



Putin is definitely from the old Soviet mind set.

Thought control is exactly what the Soviets were trying to accomplish.

Thought control. Hmmm... Who else is trying to enforce thought control. I wonder...
 
I agree on some levels but Boris Teltsin had them moving in the right direction but slowly they have gone back to the days of old. From what I have seen and heard though there are millions of Russians that wont go quielty into the night

They are like frogs in slowly warming water.

Look what we have been subjected to over the last several years and see what has happened to our rights and freedoms.
 
FREE ***** RIOT



These ''*****cat's'' message at their concerts is to incite violence. And i do think your being a tad dramatic.:roll:

Why would you defend this sentence by inventing stuff (violence)?




As the outcry continues after the anti-Putin ***** Riot singers were jailed for two years over a 50-second cathedral protest, former world chess champion Garry Kasparov was arrested for his protestations outside the court. After today's staggering news, leader of the opposition, the mild-mannered Kasparov was shown in forceful terms that the the Russian security forces are clamping down on unrest. The pictures clearly show Kasparov being manhandled by the Russian police as a growing clamour of disbelief begins to spread at the severe sentencing...

The verdict – which could see them sent to Siberian labour camps – is likely to spark a weekend of protest in Russia and in cities around the world...

While the sentence for ‘hooliganism motivated by religious hatred’ was relatively light compared with the seven-year maximum, the case is widely seen as a ‘show trial’ warning to others daring to challenge Putin’s ‘authoritarian rule’.

The trio had expected no mercy for their political protest. Tolokonnikova said shortly before the verdict, which she assumed was written in the Kremlin: ‘I do not believe in this court. There is no court. It is an illusion.’

Russian opposition leader Kasparov, the former chess world champion, was one of dozens arrested outside the court in a huge security clampdown.

Read more: ***** Riot trial: Garry Kasparov dragged away from massive protest | Mail Online


A police source told Itar-Tass news agency 50 people had been detained near the court when scuffles broke out. Among them were Sergei Udaltsov, a leftist opposition leader, and Garry Kasparov, a Putin critic and former world chess champion.

But there was no sign of the opposition taking to the streets in anger. Opposition leaders plan a small gathering in Moscow on Sunday, the anniversary of a failed coup shortly before the Soviet Union fell in 1991, but the next big anti-Putin rally is not planned until September 15...

U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Washington was concerned about the "disproportionate sentences ... and the negative impact on freedom of expression in Russia", and urged Russian authorities "to review this case".

EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said the sentence called into question Russia's respect for the "obligations of fair, transparent, and independent legal process".

Russia's female punk band protesters jailed for two years | Reuters



I think if this happened in the US, some members would be freaking out about how the US is fascist.
 
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Oh not not hooliganism! Couldn't they just be charged with shenanigans or tom foolery?
 
There was an enormous missed opportunity in the 1990's. What went unrealized was that Russia required hundreds of billions in transitional assistance to make a stable descent into a market economy.
 
I'm surprised nobody commented on the Russian polls. Most of the locals actually support the sentencing, according to these polls. Seems many of them want to return to those good ol' Soviet days.
 
We can be jailed without charge or trial, we have free speech zones, numerous reporters were arrested at ows, we have a kill list that has included citizens, we have warrantless wiretapping and police routinely execute people so I find it difficult to get that worked up about a band in Russia. Maybe a better question is why this story has received so much press?

I have no idea about the fairness of the Russian election but I do know we put a guy into office who got less votes because of the electoral college. As bad as the electoral college is it's not as bad as the Diebold(they've changed names) voting machines which are an absolute joke. Then take into account that for the most part to get elected the candidate has to be a donkey or an elephant. I don't see how we can throw stones at another country about their election process when you take an honest look at what we have. Is it really any better than what they have in Russia?
 
I will agree with a previous poster the jailing a ***** riot really seems wrong.
 
Well the Russian court system really shut down ***** Riot's message. No one will ever hear what ***** Riot has to say now.
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This is not a new lesson. Idk, why people in these sorts of positions of power make this same mistake over and over. There've been plenty of previous cases where attacking the messenger raises the profile of the message beyond what the messenger could have ever hoped for.
 
An honest question: would this case be getting such world wide publicity if the name of the group was something less titillating - say SUNSHINE AND FLOWERS for example?
 
BBC News - ***** Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'


Havent seen anything on here about this so I thought I would put up a thread. Pretty disgraceful verdict which has Putin and his old KGB cronies written all over it, I personally find this and other recent developments pretty alarming. In a year where we saw Putin hijack an election with bullying, routine arrests on the oppoisition and intimidation of journalists I have to wonder if Russia will slide back 30 years? Maybe im being a little dramatic but with the recent events you cant help but wonder where exactly Russia is headed?

Nothing new here. Russia has not changed much the last 20 years, and is still a dictatorship .. mostly by mafia groups.

But lets not forget, many countries have disproportionate jail sentences.. so we in the west should not exactly be screaming "bloody murder" so to say. But yes, this conviction is moronic at best.. sure what they did was against the law, but the sentence for a first offence... idiotic.
 
BBC News - ***** Riot jail terms condemned as 'disproportionate'


Havent seen anything on here about this so I thought I would put up a thread. Pretty disgraceful verdict which has Putin and his old KGB cronies written all over it, I personally find this and other recent developments pretty alarming. In a year where we saw Putin hijack an election with bullying, routine arrests on the oppoisition and intimidation of journalists I have to wonder if Russia will slide back 30 years? Maybe im being a little dramatic but with the recent events you cant help but wonder where exactly Russia is headed?
What exactly did they expect to happen?
 
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