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Julian Assange will be granted asylum, says official

The US government coerced the Swedish government to extradite Assange on bogus charges with the intent of later having him extradited to the US where, thanks to right wing anti-freedom loons, the government arrests journalists for doing their job.

Link? Or did you just make that up?
 
You, of course, will be providing links for all of this information, right?

You really are one strange dude - apparently not dissuaded from you conspiracy and alternate history theories by facts at all, are you?

With Assange inside, UK police guard Ecuador embassy - Yahoo! News

Duh, the UK government isn't going to humiliate itself by revealing the contents of private negotiations/plans (unless, of course, someone leaks it!).

You just have to use your noodle: what's keeping UK police from arresting Assange inside the embassy? Powerful, influential governments don't honor international treaties without an incentive.
 
Link? Or did you just make that up?

OK, the "right wing loons" part is made-up, considering obama has also turned traitor and joined forces w/the anti-freedom pols.
 
Duh, the UK government isn't going to humiliate itself by revealing the contents of private negotiations/plans (unless, of course, someone leaks it!).

You just have to use your noodle: what's keeping UK police from arresting Assange inside the embassy? Powerful, influential governments don't honor international treaties without an incentive.

So bsically you made it up.
 
So bsically you made it up.

Nope, logic. The UK doesn't honor treaties without an incentive, so everything else I said logically follows from that.
 
OK, the "right wing loons" part is made-up, considering obama has also turned traitor and joined forces w/the anti-freedom pols.

It's amazing, with all the freedom-stomping anti-journalist action going on in the world (Russia, China, S. America, Syria, Iran, the rest of the mideast...) that someone could somehow point to the US as anti-journalist because of one actual scumbag traitor.

For Pete's sake, Dan Rather aired a blatently fraudulent document against a presidential candidate on national television... did anything legal happen to him? No. If someone did that in Venezuela, for example, that's life in prison with hard labor (if one survives the torture).
 
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Nope, logic. The UK doesn't honor treaties without an incentive, so everything else I said logically follows from that.

Could you provide us with some examples where the UK or the US invaded the embassy of another country and arrested someone? Just one will do.

What is the source of your hatred and contempt for western democracies? Just curious.
 
Nope, logic. The UK doesn't honor treaties without an incentive, so everything else I said logically follows from that.

No, that would not be logic. Logic would be simply waiting for Assange to leave the embassy and not causing much negative press.
 
We wrongly still see ourselves as true diplomats, who still care a great deal about many of these treaties that we had a large hand in shaping. Most countries today like Ecuador have the balls to question our actions, its in trend for leaders in second/third world countries to stand up to past European colonial powerhouses. Calling bluff on our threats and forcing us to immediately backtrack when greater attention is put on us. There's been cases like this since Thatcher left (I'm not a Maggy supporter, but she certainly had balls).

It seems to me like people in our government in recent years have a kind of colonial tick that comes out every now and then. We think we can behave in the way we used to and countries will lie down and accept it. They never do and we backtrack on threats we should never be making these days. Threatening to violate the sanctity of an embassy over a few pseudo rape charges?(Okay perhaps one credible one) You have to agree with solletica that there is something more to that.
 
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Threatening to violate the sanctity of an embassy over a few pseudo rape charges?(Okay perhaps one credible one) You have to agree with solletica that there is something more to that.

Yeah, there's something more to it. The dude leaked classified information.
 
THere is nothing noble about protecting those in the American military that act illegally

It is good that things like wikileaks now exist to remind those that use the military as an excuse to act illegally that it is becoming harder for them to get away with it.

Only totalitarian states seek to muzzle the media. WHy do you want the USA to be a totalitarian state?

Julian is a whack job who hates government and the west. The soldier who leaked stuff to him should hang. We should whack Julian for being an enemy seeking to get american Military killed
 
Why would they drop charges? He (allegedly) broke the ****ing law. He deserves to never be a free man again. What he (allegedly) did cannot be allowed to go unpunished. People have to know that leaking classified information will end your time as a free person.

Especially when the person in question swore an oath to serve and protect the country he committed treason against.

As for Assange. First, he should face the charges in Sweden. Just like I would have to or anyone else.

His "journalism" looks like information warfare to me, and I detect a significant anti US bias. Frequently I see this bias in his supporters too. I think some of what his organization has done is good, but it is a mixed bag and some of it has endangered US military ops. Overall I would say he commits information warfare primarily against the USA while hiding behind the shield of "Journalism".
 
Especially when the person in question swore an oath to serve and protect the country he committed treason against.

As for Assange. First, he should face the charges in Sweden. Just like I would have to or anyone else.

His "journalism" looks like information warfare to me, and I detect a significant anti US bias. Frequently I see this bias in his supporters too. I think some of what his organization has done is good, but it is a mixed bag and some of it has endangered US military ops. Overall I would say he commits information warfare primarily against the USA while hiding behind the shield of "Journalism".

Did you see his comments today where he made demands of the US? I bet that will work ever so well...
 
Why would they drop charges? He (allegedly) broke the ****ing law. He deserves to never be a free man again. What he (allegedly) did cannot be allowed to go unpunished. People have to know that leaking classified information will end your time as a free person.
Arguments like this are part of the reason governments feel safe using their power irresponsibly.
 
Arguments like this are part of the reason governments feel safe using their power irresponsibly.

Enforcing the law is why governments use power irresponsibly? Really? Should we ban the criminal justice system then?
 
Enforcing the law is why governments use power irresponsibly? Really? Should we ban the criminal justice system then?
No, knowing that people will bandwagon on the "leaking classified information will end your time as a free person" argument is part of (you forgot that part) the reason why governments use power irresponsibly.
 
No, knowing that people will bandwagon on the "leaking classified information will end your time as a free person" argument is part of (you forgot that part) the reason why governments use power irresponsibly.


Yes, that is what we call enforcing our laws. Those laws are there for a very good reason. Joe Private simply cannot make the determination as to what should be secret and what should be released to the press. If Joe Private feels something should not be classified, he does have avenues to actually address that which will provide him protection from recrimination.
 
Yes, that is what we call enforcing our laws. Those laws are there for a very good reason. Joe Private simply cannot make the determination as to what should be secret and what should be released to the press. If Joe Private feels something should not be classified, he does have avenues to actually address that which will provide him protection from recrimination.

Reaslity is Redress. Other countries do not agree with you. They do not think US have the right to prosecute foreign citizens for releasing secrets about the US, such as their war crimes. They do not think US law is global law.

Hence US and its puppets are pretending they are not going to prosecute him, but just send him to Sweden for some rape charges. That is the problem.
 
Reaslity is Redress. Other countries do not agree with you. They do not think US have the right to prosecute foreign citizens for releasing secrets about the US, such as their war crimes. They do not think US law is global law.

Hence US and its puppets are pretending they are not going to prosecute him, but just send him to Sweden for some rape charges. That is the problem.

Bradley Manning is a US citizen. Julian Assange is not charged with a crime nor wanted in the US. You need to check your facts.
 
Bradley Manning is a US citizen. Julian Assange is not charged with a crime nor wanted in the US. You need to check your facts.
This topic is not about Bradley Manning, and I had no idea you talked about him.

However, Assange is wanted in the US. There has been secret documents who show that US is interested in him. Also Sweden is unable to give a guarantee against extradition, and is not willing to interview him abroad or give him any kind of assurance that he will not be sent to the US.

The costs is 50000 pounds per day, which could have been spent on many other rape victims. If this is all about a rape case, then they have every incentive to give him an assurance. But we all know it is not a rape case. He is going to be sent to the US after he goes to Sweden.
 
This topic is not about Bradley Manning, and I had no idea you talked about him.

However, Assange is wanted in the US. There has been secret documents who show that US is interested in him. Also Sweden is unable to give a guarantee against extradition, and is not willing to interview him abroad or give him any kind of assurance that he will not be sent to the US.

The costs is 50000 pounds per day, which could have been spent on many other rape victims. If this is all about a rape case, then they have every incentive to give him an assurance. But we all know it is not a rape case. He is going to be sent to the US after he goes to Sweden.

So all you got is some conspiracy theory?
 
So all you got is some conspiracy theory?
Please don't sink to that level.

I give you another chance to write a mature post. I am going to pretend you didn't write that.
 
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