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Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

Last month's "trend" is not a measure of "2 years" of activity.

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Oh no, billy has the bug too, he ignores what I originally responded to.


Hiya Gimmie

Maybe folks are trying to stick to the thread topic and that's why they're ignoring you "dancing" around the facts.


Tango anyone. :lamo
 
Below defines the reason I have a problem using poll to define the issue.

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noun
1. a sampling or collection of opinions on a subject, taken from either a selected or a random group of persons, as for the purpose of analysis.

Can you refute the numbers they published? Or more directly, is there or is there not a higher percentage of adults in this country working full time? Has the percentage of under/unemployed American adults decreased?
 

Which is showing positive increases in GDP, we have had 22 quarters of positive GDP growth since 2009. I still am trying to understand how positive GDP growth....is a bad thing.

PS..note: A consistent negative component....is lowered govt spending.....which is what you guys want. So if you want lower GDP, keep pushing for less govt spending....especially in a recession.
 
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Which is showing positive increases in GDP, we have had 22 quarters of positive GDP growth since 2009. I still am trying to understand how positive GDP growth....is a bad thing.

Right, 1.5% GDP growth, 5.4 trillion added to the debt, and 23 million unemployed/under employed Americans is great news
 
Which is showing positive increases in GDP, we have had 22 quarters of positive GDP growth since 2009. I still am trying to understand how positive GDP growth....is a bad thing.

PS..note: A consistent negative component....is lowered govt spending.....which is what you guys want. So if you want lower GDP, keep pushing for less govt spending....especially in a recession.

Simply put, I think people confuse the words "good" and "improving"
 
Which is showing positive increases in GDP, we have had 22 quarters of positive GDP growth since 2009. I still am trying to understand how positive GDP growth....is a bad thing.

Its enemic. Its below what we need to just to keep up with population growth. Household incomes have fallen while you cite "growth".

Further, someone noted that a greater percentage of Americans have jobs. Since when ? Since Obama took office ? Nope. There are approximately 3 less Americans per 100 working now than when he was sworn in.

Food stamps up 42% as well.
 
Simply put, I think people confuse the words "good" and "improving"

So what evidence do you have that Gallup is more accurate then the official government numbers?
 
Its enemic. Its below what we need to just to keep up with population growth. Household incomes have fallen while you cite "growth".

Further, someone noted that a greater percentage of Americans have jobs. Since when ? Since Obama took office ? Nope. There are approximately 3 less Americans per 100 working now than when he was sworn in.

Food stamps up 42% as well.

I stated it. And I also put right in my postings that it has been improving since 2010.
 
Hiya Gimmie

Maybe folks are trying to stick to the thread topic and that's why they're ignoring you "dancing" around the facts.


Tango anyone. :lamo
Well that is a stupid comment....since I was directly responding to one of your posts.
 
And I gave you the percentage of underemployed adults and showed you that number getting slowly better since 2010

Slowly getting better isn't good enough, still well over 800k discouraged and not looking for work. That is more than when Obama took office and before throwing over a trillion dollars at shovel ready jobs that Obama admitted didn't exist
 
Simply put, I think people confuse the words "good" and "improving"

It is not improving. When you have to parse like that, give up.

The old adage is that you are either getting better, or getting worse. We are not getting better.
 
government to my knowledge does not publish the % of adult working full time.

BLS will give you unemployment by age, race, and about anything else you might want. Even the Gallup numbers don't show much improvement at all so when will you hold Obama accountable for all that spending and such poor results?
 
Its enemic. Its below what we need to just to keep up with population growth. Household incomes have fallen while you cite "growth"
You really shouldn't comment about things you don't understand, GDP is not a measure of income, so why would it come up in a discussion of GDP?

Again, the two consistent negative components are lowered govt spending (which is what you guys want) and household spending. Of course household spending is down....no frigging duh.

If you really want to get into that, we have and we can....but be forewarned, it is not a winning debate for you.
 
I stated it. And I also put right in my postings that it has been improving since 2010.

Sorry, but we have less Americans working as a total percent now than then. You have to use the fudged numbers, to believe what you posted.

Further, from the end of 2010, until now, food stamp usage is up about 10%. Its even worse since August 2010. Can't fudge those with LFPR adjustements.
 
Can you refute the numbers they published? Or more directly, is there or is there not a higher percentage of adults in this country working full time? Has the percentage of under/unemployed American adults decreased?

There is no reason to refute the source. The source is a sample. Do you know how they measured or collected their data? Do you know if it was the same way the collected the data before? Was the same group sampled?

As I said, there is no reason to refute your numbers because they don't actually impact this conversation.
 
You really shouldn't comment about things you don't understand, GDP is not a measure of income, so why would it come up in a discussion of GDP?

Again, the two consistent negative components are lowered govt spending (which is what you guys want) and household spending. Of course household spending is down....no frigging duh.

If you really want to get into that, we have and we can....but be forewarned, it is not a winning debate for you.

LOL .... because some know-nothing said things were getting better, and pointed to GDP. Fact being, when it is not going up enough to keep up with population growth, we get the accurate picture that things are getting worse per household.

So if I want to see something stupid, I should just look to your posts.
 
I will attempt to make it simpler.

The unemployment rate (which i dont believe is an accurate representation of anything since it excludes so many factors) in July 2010 was 9.5%. Today it is 8.3%
THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT

GDP in 2010 value was 13,961,800,000,000 2012 is at 15,094,000,000,000
THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT

Average household income in 2010 was 51,500 in 2012 it is 52,500
THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT

In 2010 65.4% of adults were employed full time, now it is 66.6% of adults.
THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT
 
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