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Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

The worst recession since 29? By whose standards and by what standards was this worse than 1981? How old were you then?
Already answered for like 5 or 6 times before......and you forgot again. Diversion noted.

So the trend down in July is seasonal? Why, it is the height of summer vacations and hiring.
See now, here you are ignoring all basic US econ knowledge, it is common knowledge that:
"July is typically a much weaker month for payroll employment than June, because of seasonal factors."

You want badly to believe the liberal rhetoric when the facts just make you look foolish. Did unemployment rise in July?
Yes...I look foolish, not like you wondering if we have higher levels of UE now than at the beginning of a very bad recession.
 
So you believe having 23 million unemployed/under employed at a cost of 5.4 trillion added to the debt is an improvement because Gallup says it is less than two years ago?

Unemployment just went up. Don't even bother with his nonsensical snake oil.

Liberal economic policies do not work. 53% of college graduates aged 25 and younger are unemployed and underemployed.
 
So you believe raising taxes on the rich is going to increase consumer spending, create more jobs, and improve the GDP? That seems to me to be liberal logic and false.
That is not what I was responding to, FFS you just continue to not read the context of the comments. I was not talking about the Olympics, but you might as well have twisted it into that, it would make as much sense.
 
So you believe having 23 million unemployed/under employed at a cost of 5.4 trillion added to the debt is an improvement because Gallup says it is less than two years ago?

Gallup shows the numbers each year and most days if you open the whole file, and the numbers from 2 years ago to today are slightly better.
 
That is not what I was responding to, FFS you just continue to not read the context of the comments. I was not talking about the Olympics, but you might as well have twisted it into that, it would make as much sense.

I dont think he reads before posting and quoting.
 
Gallup shows the numbers each year and most days if you open the whole file, and the numbers from 2 years ago to today are slightly better.

Do you really believe that things are improving? Just set aside your Obama idol worship for a second. Do you REALLY believe the economy is improving?
 
Already answered for like 5 or 6 times before......and you forgot again. Diversion noted.

See now, here you are ignoring all basic US econ knowledge, it is common knowledge that:
"July is typically a much weaker month for payroll employment than June, because of seasonal factors."

Yes...I look foolish, not like you wondering if we have higher levels of UE now than at the beginning of a very bad recession.

Already refuted, diversion noted. You didn't work or probably weren't old enough to know what went on in 81-82 so you buy the liberal spin

In July 1984 Reagan economy created over 320,000 jobs after a recession worse than this one.

Do we have higher unemployment in July vs. June? Liberalism makes you look foolish because results are never what you want to believe
 
Gallup shows the numbers each year and most days if you open the whole file, and the numbers from 2 years ago to today are slightly better.

What Gallup shows is that this economy is still not doing well and that is confirmed by the keeper of the actual data, bls.gov. We are three years after the end of the recession and this is the worst recovery in history all due to very poor leadership and economic policy. Unemployment is up vs. June, labor force is down vs. June, discouraged workers is up vs. June, and GDP growth is worse than last year. That isn't an improving economy
 
Already refuted, diversion noted. You didn't work or probably weren't old enough to know what went on in 81-82 so you buy the liberal spin

In July 1984 Reagan economy created over 320,000 jobs after a recession worse than this one.
2 pages ago...
There you go again, you once again are using this as an opportunity to go off on your favorite tale of how bad it was....but then when I or anyone else brings up the massive spending by Reagan to get the economy going, you throw a tantrum and knock your toys out of the pram.....and complain to the mods.

Go tell your tale to someone else, someone who is interested, otherwise....just for once....read what I post and directly respond....for once in your life.




Do we have higher unemployment in July vs. June? Liberalism makes you look foolish because results are never what you want to believe
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Already answered for like 5 or 6 times before......and you forgot again. Diversion noted.

See now, here you are ignoring all basic US econ knowledge, it is common knowledge that:
"July is typically a much weaker month for payroll employment than June, because of seasonal factors."
 
What Gallup shows is that this economy is still not doing well and that is confirmed by the keeper of the actual data, bls.gov. We are three years after the end of the recession and this is the worst recovery in history all due to very poor leadership and economic policy. Unemployment is up vs. June, labor force is down vs. June, discouraged workers is up vs. June, and GDP growth is worse than last year. That isn't an improving economy

Don't even bother wasting your time chasing down their endless strawmen

Unemployment UP 8.3%. A shrinking Labor Force/Labor Market. 5 trillion flushed down the toilet.

If they want to sit there with their red books and claim the economy is improving, let them. Facts are facts however. Obama's economic policies = Historic failure

No amount of diversion, distraction, division, and spin is going to change that.
 
What Gallup shows is that this economy is still not doing well and that is confirmed by the keeper of the actual data, bls.gov. We are three years after the end of the recession and this is the worst recovery in history all due to very poor leadership and economic policy. Unemployment is up vs. June, labor force is down vs. June, discouraged workers is up vs. June, and GDP growth is worse than last year. That isn't an improving economy

I never said the economy was doing good. I said it was improving. And yes I do believe that.
 
I never said the economy was doing good. I said it was improving. And yes I do believe that.

8%+ unemployment for how many months straight?

It's improving?
 
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8%+ unemployment for how many months straight?

It's improving?

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Political cartoons and Gallup Polls. The new measures of economic improvement.
 
I have answered that repeatedly. I do believe our economy has been slowly improving for the last two years.

Now answer mine. How exactly do I worship Obama?

Yep there was a cross post

How has the economy been improving over the last 2 years? GDP growth is trending down. Unemployment is trending up. All at a cost of 5 trillion that was borrowed from future generations.

How can you possibly call that an "improvement"?

The only possible way someone could still support Obama today is if they were still apart of his Hope and Change cult. Facts don't matter. Obama's promises have turned into lies. The only way you could even take the man seriously at this point and DEFEND the absolute disaster that is the US Economy under is leadership is through FAITH. Faith in miserable liberal economic policies that do not work.

Come on man. Tell us all how Obama is going to lower the rise of the oceans and how the planet is going to heal just because Obama was elected.

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Yep there was a cross post

How has the economy been improving over the last 2 years? GDP growth is trending down. Unemployment is trending up. All at a cost of 5 trillion that was borrowed from future generations.

How can you possibly call that an "improvement"?
Last month's "trend" is not a measure of "2 years" of activity.
 
Yep there was a cross post

How has the economy been improving over the last 2 years? GDP growth is trending down. Unemployment is trending up. All at a cost of 5 trillion that was borrowed from future generations.

How can you possibly call that an "improvement"?

a higher percentage of americans are working full time and a lower percentage of americans are underemployed and unemployed. In my opinion those are the numbers that matter.

are you ever going to answer my question to you?
 
I never said the economy was doing good. I said it was improving. And yes I do believe that.

Lets look at some numbers.

In Jan 2009, when Obama took office, there were 31,983,716 Americans receiving food stamps, with a paid benefit of $ 3,633,188,682 that month.

IN May 2012, there were 46,496,788 Americans receiving food stamps, with a paid benefit of $ 6,181,720,325.

Do you have some other "improving" numbers ?

SNAP Monthly Data
 
a higher percentage of americans are working full time and a lower percentage of americans are underemployed and unemployed. In my opinion those are the numbers that matter.

are you ever going to answer my question to you?

Below defines the reason I have a problem using poll to define the issue.

poll1    /poʊl/ Show Spelled[pohl] Show IPA
noun
1. a sampling or collection of opinions on a subject, taken from either a selected or a random group of persons, as for the purpose of analysis.
 
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