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Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

So would Bush, Romney or any other president. They can't control it, so they have little choice but to polish. The only difference is with those two more republicans would be helping and more democrats would be talking about them polisihing the turd.

Democrats are good at talking.
 
He once told me that the government of North Korea had no impact on its' economy.

:shrug: it's a product of the groupthink bubble he lives in

Telling untruths and misrepresentations are not honorable CP. This is probably a case where you ignored other words surrounding something and hold it in your mind to dishonestly attack someone. :roll:
 
He once told me that the government of North Korea had no impact on its' economy.

:shrug: it's a product of the groupthink bubble he lives in
OK...thats funny right there...I dont care who you are. He didnt really, did he? :lamo
 
OK...thats funny right there...I dont care who you are. He didnt really, did he? :lamo

:) here is the conversation

Boo Radley said:
They can offer some friendly aid, or not, but largely the economy moves as it moves regardless.

cpwill said:
absolutely incorrect. ask yourself why the economy of North Korea looks so different from the economy of South Korea.

And there are reasons for that, and some that don't deal with just form of government.

really. you are honestly going to argue that the differences between South Korea and North Korea's economy are not due to their governmental differences.

Boo, you are officially reaching into nonsense to try to defend a point.

Yes, in the terms you're presenting them.In context, it is the difference between capitalism and, say, socialism, (not that is what we're discussing, more a diversion on your part), but between how each is doing it. Any brutal dictator is likely make things worse. However, that says nothing about any economic theary.

:) Socialism, Capitalism, Corporatism... all of them just fine, nothing really to judge between them. Communism only fails because for some reason it's always taken over by dictators (odd, that). It's just that they so happen to be run by bad guys, so that's why socialism fails.

The Government, you see, despite being about a third of GDP, doesn't impact the rest of the economy, no sir, not really. That's why it's not really Obama's fault that this "recovery" never really happened. :roll:
 
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:) here is the conversation



:) Socialism, Capitalism, Corporatism... all of them just fine, nothing really to judge between them. Communism only fails because for some reason it's always taken over by dictators (odd, that). It's just that they so happen to be run by bad guys, so that's why socialism fails.

The Government, you see, despite being about a third of GDP, doesn't impact the rest of the economy, no sir, not really. That's why it's not really Obama's fault that this "recovery" never really happened. :roll:

Like I thought, you went out of context. Missed words like some. We were largely speaking about our government, and that while Korea had more control, even they had things outside their control. You largely miss much of what is said, either becasue of a lack of understanding or in trying to be dishonest.

Also notice this: (not that is what we're discussing, more a diversion on your part)

Also, lets read the entire response and not your odd cut of it:

Yes, in the terms you're presenting them.In context, it is the difference between capitalism and, say, socialism, (not that is what we're discussing, more a diversion on your part), but between how each is doing it. Any brutal dictator is likely make things worse. However, that says nothing about any economic theory.

And yes, government spending could put money in the hands of people who would spend it, helping to create need, which would inspire some to meet that need, and help the economy in the short run. There are others who would support that thinking. And yes, you could provide some who don't. But the complaint by some against what government has done is that it hasn't done enough, put enough money out there. Doing somehting half as is usually ineffective.

But, that isn't something that fundamentally changes the economy. Other factors have to come from other places. Without that, even this would fail. That's why leaders always cross their fingers and pray whenever they do something. They need help.

You'll notice I make no claim about either North nor South Korea.

CP, you can should be better than this.
 
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