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Jobless rate rises to 8.3 percent, hiring picks up but still falling short

Diversion is what you do, do you believe we have a 13.6 trillion dollar GDP? That is wrong and you should know that. The chart doesn't show what you want it to show
Do you know you can get your own chart and make up any numbers you want just like your budget numbers? Do you know that you can get your own GDP chart and try to refute the St. Louis Fed? Do you know how absolutely silly your posts are becoming?
 
I have never made that claim. I have been stating that since Jan 2010 our economy has been slowly improving.

Nice, that is like saying (waiting for that special day) it's better than it was yesterday. Yesterday it was raining, but now it's sunny. Good one.
 
Nice, that is like saying (waiting for that special day) it's better than it was yesterday. Yesterday it was raining, but now it's sunny. Good one.

That doesnt make sense. Is a person not allowed to say the economy has been slowly improving since Jan 2010?
 
Just goes to show how little this Administration knows about the private sector. The private sector is not going to create jobs when it is demonized and threatened with higher taxes. Incentive drives all personal behavior and that is something Obama will never understand.
The fact that you're accusing the entire Administration of somehow failing to grasp this utterly simplistic, arm chair analysis is absolutely laughable.
 
That doesnt make sense. Is a person not allowed to say the economy has been slowly improving since Jan 2010?

Pick any day you want to support your desired view. However I take the full account of what happens on a presidents watch. Like Obama has raised our national debt by almost 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. Unemployment has been over 8% for over 40 months, there are more poor under Obama than any president before him. Obama was the first president to have our debt downgraded, on and on I can go.
 
Higher taxes takes more money out of your pocket, decreasing demand for goods and services, why, because you have less money to spend.
Except that the tax hikes being proposed currently would affect a minute percentage of the population, a sect that would in all likelihood make nary a change in it's consumption habits in reaction to a 4% hike.
 
Pick any day you want to support your desired view. However I take the full account of what happens on a presidents watch. Like Obama has raised our national debt by almost 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. Unemployment has been over 8% for over 40 months, there are more poor under Obama than any president before him. Obama was the first president to have our debt downgraded, on and on I can go.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...453-unemployment-rises-20.html#post1060758707
 
Did I ever say that noone was under/unemployed? I doubt I did. Try honesty. Its fun.

You are claiming the economy is getting better and the reality is the growth is not helping create jobs and it is all due to poor leadership. There were 12.7 million unemployed and discouraged workers when Obama took office and 13.6 million today. That an improvement to you?
 
Except that the tax hikes being proposed currently would affect a minute percentage of the population, a sect that would in all likelihood make nary a change in it's consumption habits in reaction to a 4% hike.
Yeah...well....when I said "your"...I meant mine....because I am part of the 1%.....with my wife....Morgan Fairchild.....yeah, that's the ticket!
 
Do you know you can get your own chart and make up any numbers you want just like your budget numbers? Do you know that you can get your own GDP chart and try to refute the St. Louis Fed? Do you know how absolutely silly your posts are becoming?

I asked you a simple question, do you believe the GDP of this country is 13.6 trillion dollars?
 
That doesnt make sense. Is a person not allowed to say the economy has been slowly improving since Jan 2010?

But Obama has been in office since Jan. '09 - that is how he should be judged.

And since he took over, unemployment is worse, average housing prices are worse, number of Americans on food stamps is much worse, the national debt is MUCH worse.

Poverty, housing, jobs and debt...those are all biggies...and all of them have gotten worse on his watch.
 
Pick any day you want to support your desired view. However I take the full account of what happens on a presidents watch. Like Obama has raised our national debt by almost 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. Unemployment has been over 8% for over 40 months, there are more poor under Obama than any president before him. Obama was the first president to have our debt downgraded, on and on I can go.

But you can't nominate a candidate that has any ideas that will improve on what Obama has done. You can't find one western nation that is doing better than the U.S. either. We are Thai fastest growing western nation and it is thanks to Obama putting a lid on austerity measures that threw Europe back into recession. Romney's policies are sure to do the same for us.
You also can't explain why the Dow went up over 200 points on the news of 163,000 jobs created, I guess they are all drinking the "Obama kool-aid" too. It was good news to them that is for sure.
 
You are claiming the economy is getting better and the reality is the growth is not helping create jobs and it is all due to poor leadership. There were 12.7 million unemployed and discouraged workers when Obama took office and 13.6 million today. That an improvement to you?
And yet....what is the GOP/con solution?...lower taxes for the upper quintile.....which will not cause greater demand.

It is not a supply side problem.
 
Pick any day you want to support your desired view. However I take the full account of what happens on a presidents watch. Like Obama has raised our national debt by almost 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. Unemployment has been over 8% for over 40 months, there are more poor under Obama than any president before him. Obama was the first president to have our debt downgraded, on and on I can go.

And none of how much you go on and on and on about would change anything. I am not talking about Obama or how you secretly like him and feel the need to convince yourself not to. I do not blame a single person for our economic successes or failures. It is hilarious to me that if I sit here and state that the economy has gotten better in the last 2 years how many of you people come out and get defensive, assume it is an endorsement for Obama, and suddenly I am a liberal. You people are idiotic. None of that, and I do mean none of that refutes my claim that the economy has improved since 2010. Since you want to bring it up

Like AMERICA has raised our national debt by almost 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. AMERICAN Unemployment has been over 8% for over 40 months, there are more poor IN OUR COUNTRY NOW IN RECENT MEMORY. AMERICAN HAS HAD ITS CREDIT downgraded, on and on I can go.

Helped you out a bit there. Obama does not have complete control over any of these things. Our government and the people of this country are ruining it. Not just Obama, but every one in office is failing, and the American people are making this crap worse. YOU are as much to blame for the crap you listed above as Obama is.
 
But you can't nominate a candidate that has any ideas that will improve on what Obama has done. You can't find one western nation that is doing better than the U.S. either. We are Thai fastest growing western nation and it is thanks to Obama putting a lid on austerity measures that threw Europe back into recession. Romney's policies are sure to do the same for us.
You also can't explain why the Dow went up over 200 points on the news of 163,000 jobs created, I guess they are all drinking the "Obama kool-aid" too. It was good news to them that is for sure.

Pretty simple, Wall Street is expecting Bernanke to print more money to stimulate this poor economy. Thought someone as smart as you think you are would understand that. Great to see the same people who demonized Wall Street during the Bush years when it went over 14000 excited about it now.
 
You are claiming the economy is getting better and the reality is the growth is not helping create jobs and it is all due to poor leadership. There were 12.7 million unemployed and discouraged workers when Obama took office and 13.6 million today. That an improvement to you?

I have clearly stated that we have seen improvements since 2010 and I havent once mentioned Obama.
 
I asked you a simple question, do you believe the GDP of this country is 13.6 trillion dollars?
In REAL, CHAINED 2005 DOLLARS....yes, I do not believe the Dept of Commerce is LYING.

Do you....do you...do you...do you?
 
Q4 2011 GDP: 4.1%

Today it's 1.5%, down more than half from Q4 2011, looks like we're headed for another recession. And this is after Obama flooded the country with borrowed money up to almost 6 trillion added to our national debt.
You still can't bring yourself to actually read the whole post and respond. Strike 2.
 
And yet....what is the GOP/con solution?...lower taxes for the upper quintile.....which will not cause greater demand.

It is not a supply side problem.

Stop demonizing individual wealth creation and instead promote it by providing incentive. Implement the Bowles/Simpson recommendations of lowering corporate tax rates as well as individual tax rates. Implement a flat tax, remove SS and Medicare from the budget and put it where it belongs. Then return all social programs except Medicare and SS to the states, local communities, and charites. Increase the deductions for charitable giving. Cut the budget down to 1.5 trillion dollars which I gave you the numbers for. Let the private sector work, eliminate all public unions or if you keep them put all compensation issues with public unions up for a vote by the taxpayers.
 
In REAL, CHAINED 2005 DOLLARS....yes, I do not believe the Dept of Commerce is LYING.

Do you....do you...do you...do you?

Chained dollars don't reflect GDP numbers that generate tax revenue nor create jobs. The real numbers are 15 trillion and that is still too low as it was 14.5 trillion when Bush left office. Therein lies your problem. "Your" President doesn't have a clue how to lead
 
Stop demonizing individual wealth creation and instead promote it by providing incentive. Implement the Bowles/Simpson recommendations of lowering corporate tax rates as well as individual tax rates. Implement a flat tax, remove SS and Medicare from the budget and put it where it belongs. Then return all social programs except Medicare and SS to the states, local communities, and charites. Increase the deductions for charitable giving. Cut the budget down to 1.5 trillion dollars which I gave you the numbers for. Let the private sector work, eliminate all public unions or if you keep them put all compensation issues with public unions up for a vote by the taxpayers.
Again, none of that increases demand and all of it is again tangential rhetoric.
 
Chained dollars don't reflect GDP numbers that generate tax revenue nor create jobs. The real numbers are 15 trillion and that is still too low as it was 14.5 trillion when Bush left office. Therein lies your problem. "Your" President doesn't have a clue how to lead

Who is your president out of curiosity?
 
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