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Leading Israeli religious Zionist rabbi: A woman's place is in the home

johnny_rebson said:
But if religious leaders think that women lack the necessities to be effective religious leaders, who are you to tell them they're wrong? What is your recourse?
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Who are they to tell women they lack necessities to be religious leaders? There are already female preachers and pastors, and they do their job well. Recourse is simple: Boycott by going to another church.
 
Hatuey said:
Argumentum ad populum? Fallacy.
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Not at all. That would assume I am saying something is accurate because the majority says it is accurate. I would think you would recognize that's not at ALL what I said.

Again, you can't be an "extremist" when you're arguing the historically mainstream understanding of verses found in your religion's books and endorsed by clergy etc.
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Reread what I wrote. I said CURRENT. Historical is irrelevant to what I said.

Or are you now going to argue that Judaism, Islam and Christianity, as religions do not see women as being lesser beings? If anything, it is the mainstream understanding of these religions which has become washed out. He's a traditionalist, not an extremist.
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Based on current positions on these things, he's an extremist. A traditionalist is extreme in these times.

PS: If your argument is that if it's not held by a fallaciously invented mainstream it's "extremism", then you may as well start arguing that atheism is an extremist position seeing as how we currently comprise about 7-8% of the populace at best.
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No, I will form my own opinions. You don't get to tell me what they are.
 
Hatuey said:
I'm not arguing that his position isn't extreme within a wider societal construct that takes into consideration secular opinions. I'm arguing that within the historical understanding and teachings of Abrahamic faith, his position is perfectly well within the mainstream.
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And since I was discussing current positions and thoughts... similar to the first part of your sentence, saying ZERO about historical understanding, you have just agreed with me. Thank you.
 
johnny_rebson said:
But if religious leaders think that women lack the necessities to be effective religious leaders, who are you to tell them they're wrong? What is your recourse?
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What necessities could they possibly lack? Complete seminary school, preach away.
 
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