• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

House easily approves Paul's 'audit the Fed' bill in 327-98 vote

And the names of their CEO's to get an even clearer picture.;)
 
24107 said:
I would love a clear explanation of who exactly are our corporate masters.:popcorn2:
Click to expand...

most people are holding onto the delusion that they have actual representation in federal government and politicians serve the will of the people.

It simply isn't so. Your corporate masters are the ones that actually control the strings. It doesn't matter if 80% of the people favor a particular bill so long as those controlling the system oppose it.

So who are they? Big banks. The Military Industrial Complex. Big Labor. etc, etc. They call the shots. no actual change is coming anytime soon.
 
ARealConservative said:
most people are holding onto the delusion that they have actual representation in federal government and politicians serve the will of the people.

It simply isn't so. Your corporate masters are the ones that actually control the strings. It doesn't matter if 80% of the people favor a particular bill so long as those controlling the system oppose it.

So who are they? Big banks. The Military Industrial Complex. Big Labor. etc, etc. They call the shots. no actual change is coming anytime soon.
Click to expand...


Well, our congressmen aren't becoming millionaires because they are doing a bang-up job of running our country.....
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Well, our congressmen aren't becoming millionaires because they are doing a bang-up job of running our country.....
Click to expand...

I agree, i think they are becoming rich through corrupt means.
 
ARealConservative said:
most people are holding onto the delusion that they have actual representation in federal government and politicians serve the will of the people.

It simply isn't so. Your corporate masters are the ones that actually control the strings. It doesn't matter if 80% of the people favor a particular bill so long as those controlling the system oppose it.

So who are they? Big banks. The Military Industrial Complex. Big Labor. etc, etc. They call the shots. no actual change is coming anytime soon.
Click to expand...

But..but that doesn't sound like a democracy :(
 
DA60 said:
It's not rocket science...who benefits the most from the Fed's power and secrecy?

Look at the top banks, find their CEO's/major share holders - there are at least some of your names.
Click to expand...

You are claiming that the entire US government is controlled by some mysterious "corporate masters". Sorry, but that does not pass a smell test.

I do agree that some in congress are controlled by special interests in their states and that some of them are taking under the table bribes. But to claim that the entire government is being run by a bunch of corporate CEOs is just silly.
 
Bobcat said:
You are claiming that the entire US government is controlled by some mysterious "corporate masters". Sorry, but that does not pass a smell test.

I do agree that some in congress are controlled by special interests in their states and that some of them are taking under the table bribes. But to claim that the entire government is being run by a bunch of corporate CEOs is just silly.
Click to expand...

Let's take the original comment in the vein that it was supposed to be taken. To think someone would seriously suggest that the WHOLE government is run by corporate masters, is just silly.

I would agree that these "corporate masters" have an abundance of influence on what congress does and does not do.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
Let's take the original comment in the vein that it was supposed to be taken. To think someone would seriously suggest that the WHOLE government is run by corporate masters, is just silly.

I would agree that these "corporate masters" have an abundance of influence on what congress does and does not do.
Click to expand...

a great example is our propensity to go to war when the American people overwhelmingly reject the notion.

The amount of fraud and propaganda that comes out to drum up war support is so transparent.

Another example is how people were duped into passing an amendment to "soak the rich", only to quickly discover this new found power is used to take money away from low income labor before they see a dime.
 
ARealConservative said:
a great example is our propensity to go to war when the American people overwhelmingly reject the notion.

The amount of fraud and propaganda that comes out to drum up war support is so transparent.

Another example is how people were duped into passing an amendment to "soak the rich", only to quickly discover this new found power is used to take money away from low income labor before they see a dime.
Click to expand...

How about the lack of charges stemming from the banking collapse? To big to fail and apparently too influential to bring to justice.
 
DA60 said:
'Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) won a rare legislative victory on Wednesday when the House passed his legislation allowing for a full audit of the Federal Reserve, including an audit of the Fed's monetary policy decisions.

The House approved Paul's Federal Reserve Transparency Act, H.R. 459, in a bipartisan 327-98 vote. The vote split Democrats almost evenly — 89 for and 97 against — while only one Republican, Rep. Robert Turner (R-N.Y.), voted against it.

The bill won an easy majority, given its 270 co-sponsors, and easily cleared the two-thirds majority needed for passage, which was required because it was considered under a suspension of the rules.'

House easily approves Paul's 'audit the Fed' bill in 327-98 vote - The Hill's Floor Action

Click to expand...


A very good bill. Only Congress was granted the authority to print and regulate the value of our dollar. As such ANY agency which prints or regulates the value of our dollar belongs to Congress and serves at their behest.
 
I don't expect much to come out of this.

And when nothing much comes out of this, folks will suspect a conspiracy to "hide" the truth.
 
Thunder said:
I don't expect much to come out of this.

And when nothing much comes out of this, folks will suspect a conspiracy to "hide" the truth.
Click to expand...

of course nothing will come of this. One person that chairs the banking sub committee alone decides if the Senate version of this bill will see the light of day. No way will that person allow the bill to go to a vote.
 
Thunder said:
I don't expect much to come out of this.

And when nothing much comes out of this, folks will suspect a conspiracy to "hide" the truth.
Click to expand...

If this bill does not pass, that mean's they are trying to hide something. That is not a conspiracy. That is called dishonesty.
 
24107 said:
If this bill does not pass, that mean's they are trying to hide something. That is not a conspiracy. That is called dishonesty.
Click to expand...

It's government, of course they're trying to hide something.
 
ARealConservative said:
of course nothing will come of this. One person that chairs the banking sub committee alone decides if the Senate version of this bill will see the light of day. No way will that person allow the bill to go to a vote.
Click to expand...

And no reason he should. It is nothing but partisan pandering which is the House's middle name lately.
That's why the bill keeping taxes down on 95% of Americans won't get a vote in the House. They only care about 5% of us.
 
Last edited:
iguanaman said:
And no reason he should. It is nothing but partisan pandering which is the House's middle name lately.
That's why the bill keeping taxes down on 95% of Americans won't get a vote in the House. They only care about 5% of us.
Click to expand...

partisan pandering?

The bill passed 327 to 98.
 
Ikari said:
It's government, of course they're trying to hide something.
Click to expand...

Ya but thunder stick's up for the corruption in govt. , by making excuses for them like calling their hiding facts, a ''conspiracy theory'' i wonder why?
 
Last edited:
Chaddelamancha said:
Let's take the original comment in the vein that it was supposed to be taken. To think someone would seriously suggest that the WHOLE government is run by corporate masters, is just silly.

I would agree that these "corporate masters" have an abundance of influence on what congress does and does not do.
Click to expand...

Exactly and thank you.
 
Thunder said:
that is a lie.

I have never defend corruption in govt.
Click to expand...

But you seem to be against an investigation, which is auditing the FED. by auditing the fed facts can come out.
 
How is it that the government can audit any company within the U.S. except the Fed?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom