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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

nota bene said:
It's just that appropriating--politicizing--characters beloved by little kids (and adults including me) is so sad.
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And politicizing chicken sandwiches is just fine?
 
ChuckBerry said:
Muppets dump Chick-Fil-A to support gay marriage - Chicago Tribune

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a statement posted on their official Facebook page.

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The Henson company, whose Muppet characters are hugely popular, said its Chief Executive Lisa Henson is a "strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD," the company said in their statement.

Chick-Fil-A has not hidden its Christian mission statement from day one, which precedes the founding of Henson's company. If Henson actually gave a damn about the issue, rather than responding to pressure and then grandstanding, they might have never chosen to associate with Chick-Fil-A at all.

It's a pity that simple symbols and characters from childhood now have to be politicized.
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Who cares what she does or thinks? The muppets were used to push a political agenda since their inception. Just another example of left wing hypocrisy.
 
Bobcat said:
Who cares what she does or thinks? The muppets were used to push a political agenda since their inception. Just another example of left wing hypocrisy.
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If sharing, tolerance, and open-mindedness are part of the liberal agenda, does that make hoarding, bigotry, and close-mindedness part of the conservative agenda?
 
Your Star said:
So does Lisa Henson, it goes both ways you know.
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I think I have stated this point. She doesn't like it . . . pull the "toys" from the Chick kid's meals.

But now we have mayors who want to ban the company from doing business in their cities. This IMO is not only no way to grow employment, but pretty dictitorial.
 
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Thorgasm said:
If sharing, tolerance, and open-mindedness are part of the liberal agenda, does that make hoarding, bigotry, and close-mindedness part of the conservative agenda?
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some of what they preached was good, I agree. But they went too far. They are part of the reason that we cannot have winners and losers----no one can get their feelings hurt.

Sharing, tolerance, and open mindedness are great and should be taught. But kids also need to be taught that hard work and skill will be rewarded, and that the world is not always "fair".

The muppets existed in a fantasy world, not the real world.
 
Billy the Kid said:
I think I have stated this point. She doesn't like it . . . pull the "toys" from the Chick kid's meals.

But now we have mayors who want to ban the company from doing business in their cities. This IMO is not only no way to grow employment, but pretty dictitorial.
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thats the way liberals work, everyone who does not agree with them is to be destroyed.
 
Bobcat said:
thats the way liberals work, everyone who does not agree with them is to be destroyed.
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Billy the Kid said:
It sure seems that way.
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I just don't get this mentality.

The National Organization for Marriage has declared boycotts on at least half a dozen companies for supporting same sex marriage and spends millions on deceitful advertising to push their agenda.

One Million Moms has declared boycotts on JC Penny simply for having a gay spokesmen.

In Virginia the state Republicans would not confirm a man to be judge for no other reason than he was gay.

When Romney chose a gay man to be a spokesman for him, Romney got so much flack from his conservative base for the decision that the spokesman had to quit.

Where do you get the audacity to pretend that liberals are any more or less conceited than you?
 
Billy the Kid said:
None.

It has come to the point in this country that "free speech" is no longer acceptable to the "lefties" unless it's their "free speech".

This business owner has the right to give his money to whomever he chooses.
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i know what you mean. apparently tolerance only applies to people who's point of view coincide with yours.
 
Your Star said:
About this, a smart businessman would have shut the **** ubp, and never said a damn thing about this issue. His job is to sell chicken to people, not comment on controversial social issues. All the controversy surrounding this is not helping Chick-Fil-A in the slightest.
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i beg to differ. have you been to or driven by a chick fil a since this whole thing started? This has helped them. I have been there personally 5 times now and each time took almost an hour. Thursday night it took forever just to park.. saturday i couldnt get food because they actually had to close the chick fil a near here because they ran out of food. This is not hurting them..
 
Your Star said:
So does Lisa Henson, it goes both ways you know.
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i do find it a bit funny how chick fil a's owners values have not changed nor has he ever hidden them and henson had no issue entering into a partnership with him. Then when chick fil a decides to pull her crap out of its boxes suddenly she does. hell of a coincidence.
 
CriticalThought said:
I just don't get this mentality.

The National Organization for Marriage has declared boycotts on at least half a dozen companies for supporting same sex marriage and spends millions on deceitful advertising to push their agenda.

One Million Moms has declared boycotts on JC Penny simply for having a gay spokesmen.

In Virginia the state Republicans would not confirm a man to be judge for no other reason than he was gay.

When Romney chose a gay man to be a spokesman for him, Romney got so much flack from his conservative base for the decision that the spokesman had to quit.

Where do you get the audacity to pretend that liberals are any more or less conceited than you?
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are you somehow under the impression these things were ok or that I thought they were ok?
 
muciti said:
i beg to differ. have you been to or driven by a chick fil a since this whole thing started? This has helped them. I have been there personally 5 times now and each time took almost an hour. Thursday night it took forever just to park.. saturday i couldnt get food because they actually had to close the chick fil a near here because they ran out of food. This is not hurting them..
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I don't think for the most part that this will hurt their business. It would depend largely on area. Some of these restaurants are located in areas that have a large LGBT population, but even there they don't report considerable loss of revenue. The reality is that this just isn't the firestorm that the media is making it out to be and that most people simply don't care one way or the other. Not to mention that persecuting your local Chick-fil-A franchise is not likely to have that much of an impact on the national headquarters.

I've never ate at their restaurants and I don't intend to start. However, I live in the south and if I didn't frequent businesses that are anti-gay then I would be in trouble because most of them down here are that way. I do try to throw extra business towards companies with good track records, like Starbucks, but regionally speaking, I'm just out of luck.
 
muciti said:
are you somehow under the impression these things were ok or that I thought they were ok?
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What are you talking about? I wasn't quoting you.

I just find it funny that conservatives get rattled about one anti gay business being protested by liberals when several pro gay businesses are protested by conservatives.
 
Your Star said:
And politicizing chicken sandwiches is just fine?
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It's only political because someone else made it so. The company is just doing business, and the owner has personal religious beliefs which are offensive to some people. It is the right of anyone who wants, to refuse to do business in his establishments, just as it's within the rights of Henson to sever ties with whomever she so wishes.
 
lizzie said:
It's only political because someone else made it so. The company is just doing business, and the owner has personal religious beliefs which are offensive to some people. It is the right of anyone who wants, to refuse to do business in his establishments, just as it's with the rights of Henson to sever ties with whomever she so wishes.
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The president of the company made it political.
 
CriticalThought said:
I just don't get this mentality.

The National Organization for Marriage has declared boycotts on at least half a dozen companies for supporting same sex marriage and spends millions on deceitful advertising to push their agenda.

One Million Moms has declared boycotts on JC Penny simply for having a gay spokesmen.

In Virginia the state Republicans would not confirm a man to be judge for no other reason than he was gay.

When Romney chose a gay man to be a spokesman for him, Romney got so much flack from his conservative base for the decision that the spokesman had to quit.

Where do you get the audacity to pretend that liberals are any more or less conceited than you?
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My problem is attempting to shut down or ban a business, as these 4-5 mayors want to do, when Chick did not discriminate against anyone. We, as a country, are bleeding jobs. The economy is tanking. And the future isn't looking any better and we're playing political dice with jobs.

If you don't like where this one particular citizen gave their money, then don't buy from them. It's your right to do so.
 
I am flabbergasted by the amount of butthurt from the Right. But really, I shouldn't be.

How did they not see this boycott coming? How could they arrogantly assume that those who support same-sex marriage rights would just shut up and take it, just like they have taken it since, like, forever? They know this is a polarizing issue; they know that for every person in America who wants to deny gays their right to marry, another supports it. Yet they seem to want one of those two contingencies just shut up and go away.

That, to me, is a key part of discrimination: Assume that the oppressed will just put up with their oppression, and feign outrage when they and their supporters protest it. We've seen that many, many times before. Pro-slavery groups were outraged that liberals would DARE to suggest that all slaves be freed. Anti-women's-rights forces were outraged that liberals would DARE to suggest that women be given the right to vote. And then, with an intensity straight out of the pits of Hell, anti-civil-rights groups broke into an all out rage against blacks and, to a lesser extent, white liberals, all of whom would DARE to suggest that people of all races be treated equally.

Tell me, those of you opposed to same-sex marriage rights: How exactly is this issue any different? How can you claim that for once, the liberals are on the wrong side of history and the conservatives are on the right side? You (plural) have a mile-long track history record of hate and discrimination to address before you can even hope to explain away this problem.
 
Phys251 said:
I am flabbergasted by the amount of butthurt from the Right. But really, I shouldn't be.

How did they not see this boycott coming? How could they arrogantly assume that those who support same-sex marriage rights would just shut up and take it, just like they have taken it since, like, forever? They know this is a polarizing issue; they know that for every person in America who wants to deny gays their right to marry, another supports it. Yet they seem to want one of those two contingencies just shut up and go away.
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But you see, this is the deal: the owner of a business establishment isn't making laws. He has his business interests, which are to sell chicken sandwiches to the public, for making his living. His personal opinions about gay marriage (or any other social issue) don't mean squat in relation to his operation of his business establishment. He isn't discriminating in hiring/firing/ or any other legally-controlled aspect of business that I am aware of. People are trying to turn this into some kind of civil rights issue, when it's nothing of the sort.
 
lizzie said:
But you see, this is the deal: the owner of a business establishment isn't making laws. He has his business interests, which are to sell chicken sandwiches to the public, for making his living. His personal opinions about gay marriage (or any other social issue) don't mean squat in relation to his operation of his business establishment. He isn't discriminating in hiring/firing/ or any other legally-controlled aspect of business that I am aware of. People are trying to turn this into some kind of civil rights issue, when it's nothing of the sort.
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Yanno I bet he would if he could. And he is trying to affect the law by supporting anti gay marriage groups. I say put a KFC in there instead.
 
lizzie said:
But you see, this is the deal: the owner of a business establishment isn't making laws. He has his business interests, which are to sell chicken sandwiches to the public, for making his living. His personal opinions about gay marriage (or any other social issue) don't mean squat in relation to his operation of his business establishment. He isn't discriminating in hiring/firing/ or any other legally-controlled aspect of business that I am aware of. People are trying to turn this into some kind of civil rights issue, when it's nothing of the sort.
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It must be nice to know that public opinion will never, ever infringe upon your right to marry.

If Mr. Cathy wants to be a bigot, that is his right to do so. His error in judgment was letting the world know about it. As I said earlier, this kind of butthurt from the Right fascinates me.
 
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