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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

Wiggen said:
No it isn't. Whether it is the correct decision largely depends on what those religious beliefs are.
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Picking and choosing which beliefs of a persons you want to be tolerant of is pretty much what discrimination is. Just like gays and lesbians dont like to be discriminated against neither do Christians or anyone else. Many people need to learn to tolerate and accept those different from them or stop demanding it for themselves. It is hypocritical to say its wrong to discriminate against me but its ok for me to discriminate against you.
 
muciti said:
thank you for the edit.



It is his Christian belief. That belief is a religious belief.



Their religion.
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The fact that its a Christian belief is irrelevant. If he was an atheist it would still be wrong to try and legally discriminate against homosexuals.

And if the only reason you have to boycott someones place of business then its wrong. However as I have said people arnt boycotting CFA over Christianity they are boycotting CFA over the fact that their CEO supports legally discriminating againts homosexuals and gives money to anti gay groups.
 
muciti said:
Yes at the chick fil a that I was at last night a gay couple that I am friends with work and got called into work last night to help with the heavy volume of orders. Not only does he employ them and I am sure they support ssm he gave them OT pay to come in last night to help.
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What lobbying work do they do for SSM?
 
muciti said:
WBC should have the same rights as anyone else. Also yes I think it is wrong to boycott Nabisco for their views on SSM.
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Omgitsme said:
I thought we wernt talking about rights. We are talking about discrimination right? After all no one is infringing on the CEO of CFAs rights.
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Dont know if you missed this or not.
 
Omgitsme said:
The fact that its a Christian belief is irrelevant. If he was an atheist it would still be wrong to try and legally discriminate against homosexuals.

And if the only reason you have to boycott someones place of business then its wrong. However as I have said people arnt boycotting CFA over Christianity they are boycotting CFA over the fact that their CEO supports legally discriminating againts homosexuals and gives money to anti gay groups.
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Exactly my point.
 
muciti said:
God is the primary belief of most religious people.
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Not even close.

Christianity is the biggest religion in the world.

But when add the total of other religion monotheistic and polytheistic, + atheists, you trounce 'God' soundly.

Islam and Hinduism are close to 2 billion. Toss in Buddhism and Christianity is looking like the minority party.
 
hazlnut said:
Not even close.

Christianity is the biggest religion in the world.

But when add the total of other religion monotheistic and polytheistic, + atheists, you trounce 'God' soundly.

Islam and Hinduism are close to 2 billion. Toss in Buddhism and Christianity is looking like the minority party.
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Most religions believe in a god.
 
muciti said:
Exactly my point.
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Except they arnt boycotting him because his religion. They are boycotting him due to him supporting legal discriminating against homosexuals. There is a huge difference between the two. No one should use their religious beliefs to interfere with the rights of others. Would you agree with that last sentence?
 
muciti said:
No I still think it is wrong to boycott Nabisco.
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Thats not what I meant. What I meant was do you think its ok to discriminate against the WBC in the non legal sense. Im not talking about rights but the same type of discrimination that the boycotters are doing against the CEO of CFA.
 
muciti said:
All this talk about chick fil a makes me hungry. I am taking the family there for dinner tonight.
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Beware!! The invisible man in the sky hath smited the VP of Chik Fil A. It's like the movie Omen. Homophobes everywhere are going to start dropping dead.

If the WBC collapses on Phelps and his daughter, everyone will say, 'Hazlnut called it.'
 
Omgitsme said:
The fact that its a Christian belief is irrelevant. If he was an atheist it would still be wrong to try and legally discriminate against homosexuals.

And if the only reason you have to boycott someones place of business then its wrong. However as I have said people arnt boycotting CFA over Christianity they are boycotting CFA over the fact that their CEO supports legally discriminating againts homosexuals and gives money to anti gay groups.
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So what? Chick-Fil-A is a facility that operates on Biblical principles. . .

From the day Truett Cathy started the company, he began applying biblically-based principles to managing his business. . .

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/FAQ#?category=1
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Some posters here may have a hard time swallowing that, but those Biblical principles are clearly reflected in their final product. . .

Chicken (100% natural whole breast filet, seasoning [salt, monosodium glutamate, sugar, spices, paprika], seasoned coater [enriched bleached flour {bleached wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid}, sugar, salt, monosodium glutamate, nonfat milk, leavening {baking soda, sodium aluminum phosphate, monocalcium phosphate}, spice, soybean oil, color {paprika}], milk wash [water, whole powdered egg and nonfat milk solids], peanut oil [fully refined peanut oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness and dimethylpolysiloxane an anti-foaming agent added]). . .

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Food/Menu-Detail/ChickfilA-Chicken-Sandwich#?details=ingredients
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There's nothing more Christian than dimethylpolysiloxane and sodium aluminum phosphate (they were likely served at the Last Supper).

And lest you believe the executive management is being hypocritical, there is strong evidence they eat their own stuff. . .

Chick-fil-A’s Vice President of Public Relations Dies of Heart Attack - ABC News
 
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muciti said:
Most religions believe in a god.
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Buzzt. that's not what you said.

Hinduism is polytheistic.

Buddha is not a God.

So, fail... Quit saying 'most' when you don't know what you're talking about.

Native Americans and Pagans believe in the mother earth, sun, moon, and water...

Scientologists... never mind.
 
solletica said:
Well, one thing's for certain. Mitt Romney is now going to have to dine at Chick-Fil-A (and be photographed doing so) to cement his conservative credentials.

FYI, he (may) not have to swallow.
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That's what she said!
 
hazlnut said:
Beware!! The invisible man in the sky hath smited the VP of Chik Fil A. It's like the movie Omen. Homophobes everywhere are going to start dropping dead.

If the WBC collapses on Phelps and his daughter, everyone will say, 'Hazlnut called it.'
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this is one of the most ignorant things in this thread. you should be ashamed of yourself.
 
hazlnut said:
Buzzt. that's not what you said.

Hinduism is polytheistic.

Buddha is not a God.

So, fail... Quit saying 'most' when you don't know what you're talking about.

Native Americans and Pagans believe in the mother earth, sun, moon, and water...

Scientologists... never mind.
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I know exactly what i am talking about. and most religions believe in god.
 
muciti said:
you mean do i think it is right for people to picket the wbc compound?
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Yes. Do you believe it is morally right to picket the WBC compound. And as a side note I think you missed my post #536
 
Kandahar said:
Yep. Just like Martin Luther King should have just been more tolerant of Bull Connor and his firehoses and attack dogs. Both sides made a reasonable argument, so they should've just been respectful of each other's point of view and agreed to disagree. Right? :roll:
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Beliefs and behavior are two different things. I haven't seen Chick fil A refusing to serve or hire gay people. Just as you can not force a person who believes in segregation that they are wrong, and just as you can not convince me that my sexuality is a sin, and just as you can not convince Dan Cathy that marriage rights should be extended to same sex couples, you can insist that their behavior and policy as a business are not discriminatory.

Chick fil A has not been discriminatory in their behavior. They can hold whatever beliefs they choose. These are statements- not actions. And by the way, if a person feels that they do not wish to patronize Chick fil A for this reason, that is fine with me. But attacking the company for the personal beliefs and politics of their CEO IS wrong, IMO, especially when using terms like anti-gay (as if pro-DOMA and anti-gay are synonomous) and "spewing hatred." I know for a fact that Dan Cathy does not HATE gay people.
 
Any CEO who claims to believe one thing and acts and/or operates his/her business in a manner that is inconsistent with that belief, even though he has a choice not to, is by definition, a hypocrite.

The CEO of Chick-Fil-A cannot say he opposes gay marriage and then simultaneously be believed 100% that he opposes discriminating against gay couples in his facilities.

A person's values are fundamentally reflected by his actions. And Dan Cathy's actions are clear: he has donated money to organizations that promote a gay-bashing agenda. Therefore, he's a bigot himself, plain and simple. So if it's true that his eating facilities don't discriminate against people due to sexual orientation, then he must be a hypocrite. But if he's not a hypocrite, then he must support such discrimination, in keeping with his true beliefs.

One must keep in mind that it's difficult to tell whether Cathy would like such discrimination to take place in his facilities by just examining its official discrimination policy, which always has to comply with anti-discrimination laws.
 
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