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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

How exactly is he not being allowed to freely practice his religion? People are not required to buy his chicken in order for him to be able to practice his religion. He is quite free to not only practice his religion, but also to sell his chicken to anyone else willing to buy it.

I dont think anyone is claiming any one is required to buy his chicken. At least I am not. I am saying their reasons for not buying his chicken are bigoted and idiotic.
 
So I will wrap this up for you guys before I go to the chair. This boycott by libs is about trying to deny this man freedom of religion. Any views that don't conform to the liberal agenda shall be quashed. Dissent is not allowed, conform or perish. You will be assimilated, resistance is futile. WE ARE THE BORG! LMAO


Paraphrasing: I will get the hell out of this tread, but not without out making a snarky meaningless remark about 'libs'.
 
How exactly is he not being allowed to freely practice his religion?

Or a made-up perverted version of that religion in which tolerance only extends to people with whom he is comfortable.


People are not required to buy his chicken in order for him to be able to practice his religion. He is quite free to not only practice his religion, but also to sell his chicken to anyone else willing to buy it.

I think we need to stop defending hate and bigotry with religion, it's really the ugliest tree (more of a weed) in the beautiful forest.
 
BS he advocates making gay marriage illegal and funds groups that advocate the same and then some.

Oh, noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really?

A homophobic remark portraying gays as somehow making the invisible man in the sky mad at us... you don't see that as offensive and just plain ignorant?

Is santa not bringing any toys to those who believe in marriage equality?

Using scripture out of context and historical context is not 'a viewpoint'. It's people justifying their own fears and insecurities by any means-- just like segregationist used to.

How exactly is he not being allowed to freely practice his religion? People are not required to buy his chicken in order for him to be able to practice his religion. He is quite free to not only practice his religion, but also to sell his chicken to anyone else willing to buy it.

Both politicians in Chicago who weighed in on this stated that, because of his religious stance, he was not welcome in Chicago. One of them, the Alderman, stated that he would do everything in his power to prevent them from getting a business license because of his religious stance. That is unConstitutional...which, apparently, they've both been made aware of since both have completely backed off their positions.
 
I dont think anyone is claiming any one is required to buy his chicken. At least I am not. I am saying their reasons for not buying his chicken are bigoted and idiotic.

So if I choose not to give my money to a bigot, that makes me a bigot? :lamo
 
Oh, noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Both politicians in Chicago who weighed in on this stated that, because of his religious stance, he was not welcome in Chicago. One of them, the Alderman, stated that he would do everything in his power to prevent them from getting a business license because of his religious stance. That is unConstitutional...which, apparently, they've both been made aware of since both have completely backed off their positions.


Yes, free speech does cover believing in invisible men who will smite you for sodomy. Kansas has Creationism museum that hosts school tours.

But think about this, if a community can ban strip clubs, can't they ban businesses run by hateful bigots?
 
Both politicians in Chicago who weighed in on this stated that, because of his religious stance, he was not welcome in Chicago. One of them, the Alderman, stated that he would do everything in his power to prevent them from getting a business license because of his religious stance. That is unConstitutional...which, apparently, they've both been made aware of since both have completely backed off their positions.

Which has nothing to do with the boycotts. They were wrong and got called on it. The boycotts and this issue, the Hensons cutting ties with them, in no way prevents him from practicing his religion or even selling his chicken.
 
I dont think anyone is claiming any one is required to buy his chicken. At least I am not. I am saying their reasons for not buying his chicken are bigoted and idiotic.

It is not bigoted to choose to not buy stuff from someone you don't agree with by itself.

Would it be bigoted to choose not support a business that came out and said that they thought that interracial marriages were bad for children and should not be encouraged or legal?
 
I forgot if one person who is a Christian says something that is a lie (which i have no idea who this girl is or what she lied about) then it makes all Christians liars. I keep forgetting to remember that.

Just make sure you apply it universally k?

Well, she is a the stock photo used for a fake Facebook account to support Chick Fil-A. Abby Farle is the name someone used. The account started after this controversy. So this, coupled with the lie about why the Muppet toys aren't being used at Chick Fil-A is inviting God's Judgement.

They lied about why they are no longer offering the toys. They did this at the expense of the safety reputation of said toys. I can't find any instances of kids getting the fingers stuck.

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For those who can't resist the food:

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Does this mean you don't deny that Chick-Fil-A lied in that note?

Not quite sure what you're referring to. What note? The sign they posted said nothing whatsoever about Muppets. It was a whole different defective toy line that was owned by Henson. Hope the kids involved sue her to the ground.

Unfortunately, there's no Chik in Oregon. But my family in California says they'll be sure to start eating there more.
 
It is not bigoted to choose to not buy stuff from someone you don't agree with by itself.

No.

Would it be bigoted to choose not support a business that came out and said that they thought that interracial marriages were bad for children and should not be encouraged or legal?

No.
 
Not quite sure what you're referring to. What note? The sign they posted said nothing whatsoever about Muppets. It was a whole different defective toy line that was owned by Henson. Hope the kids involved sue her to the ground.

Unfortunately, there's no Chik in Oregon. But my family in California says they'll be sure to start eating there more.

You have your head in the sand about this don't you?

No one is going to sue because no kids were harmed by the finger puppets, made by the Jim Henson Company. It was a lie. Check the date on the announcement.
 
If your refusal is based on his religion or creed or race or sexual orientation or age then yes.

Religious bigotry should be protected from discrimination at all costs! :rofl
 
Well, she is a the stock photo used for a fake Facebook account to support Chick Fil-A. Abby Farle is the name someone used. The account started after this controversy. So this, coupled with the lie about why the Muppet toys aren't being used at Chick Fil-A is inviting God's Judgement.

They lied about why they are no longer offering the toys. They did this at the expense of the safety reputation of said toys. I can't find any instances of kids getting the fingers stuck.

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For those who can't resist the food:

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Yea i am sure they lied. Any proof of that? or just fake notes? It is always good to try to mask your own bigotry by lies. Furthermore are you going to boycott any business I can show has ever lied or just the ones whos religious beliefs dont align with yours?
 
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So if I choose not to give my money to a bigot, that makes me a bigot? :lamo

In order to understand that, you have to think like a hateful bigot.

Try to follow: The bigot gets called a bigot because he hates. When people single him out and label him he feels hated. Therefore, those calling him bigot must be a bigot like him.

In other words, he's admitting that he hates, and rationalizing that all forms of discontent or dislike are bigotry.

I'm apparently bigoted towards vegetables and M. Night Shamalans last four movies.
 
Yea i am sure they lied. Any proof of that? or just fake notes? It is always good to try to mask your own bigotry by lies.

You have your head firmly planted in the sand I see.

All you have to do is provide an instance of a child getting their finger stuck in a puppet.

Don't believe me? How about Business Insider?

"Apparently they got three calls about hey, there's a complaint that kids are getting their fingers stuck in a hole in the toys," an employee explained. "We are erring on the side of being extra, extra cautious."

Although Chick-fil-A is not asking parents to return the toy.

Read more: Chick-Fil-A Recalls Muppet Toys After Jim Henson Co. Diss - Business Insider

Possible safety issue but don't bother returning the toy. :rofl
 
You have your head firmly planted in the sand I see.

All you have to do is provide an instance of a child getting their finger stuck in a puppet.

Don't believe me? How about Business Insider?

Did you see your own quote? Chick Fil A had received complaints and choose to err on the caution. At least maybe.

How about you answer part 2 of that same post.

Can you prove noone complained about that?
 
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Did you see your own quote? Chick Fil A had received complaints and choose to err on the caution. At least maybe.

How about you answer part 2 of that same post.

Can you prove noone complained about that?

You can't prove a negative. Of course they said they received complaints. If they were real they would have asked them to return the toys. They didn't. :rofl

BTW, "Abby Farle" removed her stock photo from her Facebook account. :lol:
 
So I will wrap this up for you guys before I go to the chair. This boycott by libs is about trying to deny this man freedom of religion. Any views that don't conform to the liberal agenda shall be quashed. Dissent is not allowed, conform or perish. You will be assimilated, resistance is futile. WE ARE THE BORG! LMAO

You forgot the part about, "If you disagree with me, you hate America."

Now, let's get a couple of things straight. The First Amendment forbids the government from preventing the practice of religion. Is the government preventing this man from going to church?

How is anybody else preventing him from excercising his religion? My religion tells me not to hate gays. So by not going to Chick-fil-A, wouldn't I be freely excercising my religion? Where in the Constitution does his religion outrank mine?

How are liberals not buying fried chicken from this guy because they don't like his politics any different from conservatives not buying Dixie Chicks records because they don't like Natalie Maines' politics?

To summarize, he has every right to say what he wants to, and to put his money behind any cause he chooses, correct? And the general public has the right to buy or not to buy his product, correct? I don't see the problem here.
 
So if I choose not to give my money to a bigot, that makes me a bigot? :lamo

Only if you're not giving your money to a conservative. If you choose not to give it to liberals, that's OK.
 
First off he donates to groups that do many many many many many things like I have said before. I donate a good deal of money to various religious organizations and believe or not it has nothing to do with sex. Nothing. Not even a little bit.

In this guy's case, he gives money to groups that are specifically anti-gay like Exodus International. If he just gave money to standard right-wing groups, I'd be much less offended. But there is no reason to give money to Exodus International unless you support discrimination, plain and simple. He doesn't even deny it; he says he's "guilty as charged."

Second the marriage debate has two sides to it. He is entitled to his opinion. Just because his differs from yours doesn't make it wrong. It is just different.

No, my opinion is right and his is wrong.

Perhaps things could be resolved if instead of being defensive and aggressive and demanding these people could learn to actually communicate and respect their fellow human beings.

Which is more disrespectful to one's fellow human beings? Telling them that they can't get married because of who they are, or calling them out on hateful comments that they make?
 
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You have your head in the sand about this don't you?

No one is going to sue because no kids were harmed by the finger puppets, made by the Jim Henson Company. It was a lie. Check the date on the announcement.

I can see how you might think that. You can't prove it of course, but it's understandable. Where you have your head in the sand is the fact that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Muppets, nor does Henson own the Muppets any longer (they haven't for a decade now). So the thread title at least is a lie. The MSM blasting this as a Muppets thing is also lying.

I'm also a bit confused as to why you'd be defending a company who makes those little crap toys (most likely manufactured in China) to go in kid's meals. Yeah, it's just so unlikely there'd be a problem with any of those toys, it's never happened before, right? </sarcasm>
 
You can't prove a negative. Of course they said they received complaints. If they were real they would have asked them to return the toys. They didn't. :rofl

BTW, "Abby Farle" removed her stock photo from her Facebook account. :lol:

Oh they "say". This type of **** is getting rediculous. This whole Chick Fil A thing is making this a really ****ty choice for people to have to make. Support religious freedom and the right to free speech vs the right to marry. I value free speech over marriage. Earlier this year there were petitions going around to get Colorado to get our state politicians to review SSM. I signed it and even stood outside king soopers for an hour collecting signatures. I have always voted for ssm when it has been on the Colorado ballot. My wife and I make a yearly donation to GLAAD and cospride.org. The disgusting attitudes of the people on this site and other websites is strongly making me reconsider all of this. Apparently the gay community wants to force people to discriminate based on religion and suppress the right to free speech. I suppose since I don't agree with religious discrimination it would not make sense for me to continue to support these groups. As long as the gay and lesbian community is encouraging people to discriminate I will no longer be supportive of them and I am going to instead donate that money elsewhere and encourage my friends and family to do the same.
 
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