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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

specklebang said:
The good news is that you can still eat a Chickaboom filet while watching the Muppets.
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Not if the muppets go on strike!

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So one company pulls advertising and support from another company because they disapprove of the other company's politics, procedures, ethics, purpose, or other. The company has the perfect right to do so. Companies will align with those who they perceive as giving a positive image for them, and break with those they perceive as giving a negative image for them all the damned time.

I don't even understand why this thread was started. :shrug:
 
Now that I reread post #230 and read the sign for content, it's cleared a couple things up. The Muppets have absolutely nothing to do with this. Disney owns the Muppets, not the Jim Henson Company. I couldn't figure out why Lisa Henson was even commenting. But now I understand it was another product from the Henson company that was involved.

Once again, the Muppets aren't any part of this. It's another MSM false lead.
 
Arcana XV said:
That depends on your point of view. You might very well think there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of the following organisations. If you're gay, some names might be a tad bit familiar and not in a good way:

IRS 990 forms show that WinShape , the restaurant chain's charitable foundation which was founded by Chick-Fil-A's chairman S. Truett Cathy in 1994, gave to the following groups in 2009:

Marriage & Family Legacy Fund: $994,199
Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
National Christian Foundation: $240,000
Focus On The Family: $12,500
Eagle Forum: $5,000
Exodus International: $1,000
Family Research Council: $1,000

Chick-Fil-A Donated Nearly $2 Million To Anti-Gay Groups In 2009 | Equality Matters
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Hey you better start talking nice, or I'll have Romney close his Swiss bank account. :lol:
 
Matt Foley said:
This is what happens when the top 10% have 80% to 90% of stocks, bonds, trust funds, and business equity, and over 75% of non-home real estate. Right conservatives?
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Oh look, he bolded the "con" part of the word; I'll be he'd trying to say something clever.
 
Redress said:
:rofl:rofl

Seriously, religious people calling others fanatics....
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You know not all religious people are fanatics. I'm religious, and I don't consider myself a religious fanatic.
 
muciti said:
I am home. I saw post 230. I dont know the actual reasons behind the fallout of the muppets and chick fil a. For all i know chick fil a threatened to pull their toys and muppets reacted this way. Or for all i know some anti chick fil a person put that up and took the picture. in either case i dont care honestly. It worked out for the better. My kids got kids meals from there and in place of some dumbass muppet they got Berenstein Bear books. I'd much rather my kids get books, good books that instill good values, than a muppet. Chick Fil A should be applauded for helping educate children especially when so many kids today dont have many books at home.

Furthermore that place was packed. Almost to the point I left. They had employees directing traffic it was so busy at that store. So many people inside I have never seen it that busy. Going back tomorrow morning to continue my support of the right to free speech.

Funny thing is I dont even agree with what he said lol. BUt those attempting to suppress his right to say it cannot win this. I am encouraging everyone who can via every forum, and social media outlet I can to go support Chick Fil A. Also last year my sons school had 4 separate fundraisers with chick fil a. As vice president of the PTA i am going to do what I can to double that amount rather than splitting it up with them and other restaurants. I doubt I'll get 4 more but every little bit helps.
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The sad thing is, by taking what Mr. Cathy knew full and well was a polarizing stance, Chick-Fil-A will suddenly attract the support of some while repelling others. They're a fast food chain, for god's sake. Not a church. If he wanted to preach this kind of crap, at the very least he should have had the decency to do so from a church, if he weren't to have the decency not to say it in the first place. If this comes back to bite Chick-Fil-A hard--which I damn well hope it does--he'll have nothing to blame but his own stupidity.
 
clownboy said:
Now that I reread post #230 and read the sign for content, it's cleared a couple things up. The Muppets have absolutely nothing to do with this. Disney owns the Muppets, not the Jim Henson Company. I couldn't figure out why Lisa Henson was even commenting. But now I understand it was another product from the Henson company that was involved.

Once again, the Muppets aren't any part of this. It's another MSM false lead.
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Does this mean you don't deny that Chick-Fil-A lied in that note?
 
American said:
Oh look, he bolded the "con" part of the word; I'll be he'd trying to say something clever.
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evolution in effect. In fact, just five years ago, we widdle folly was limited to typing out "amerikkka" and calling everyone "sheeple"

least now he can bring variety
 
Kandahar said:
Except no one actually believed that Obama didn't support same-sex marriage in the first place. This Chick-Fil-A guy clearly supports discrimination. **** him.
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Me...personally? I agree. Even Reverend Wright said that Obama really never has held a real interest in religion. And while that I'm sure makes some people even more happy, you are then forced to face the incontrovertible fact that if that all be true...he merely used gay people and gay marriage for nothing more than a political ploy his entire political career up to and including his now public 'support' of gay marriage. Tokens...thats awesome. Support THAT guy some more! :lamo
 
VanceMack said:
Me...personally? I agree. Even Reverend Wright said that Obama really never has held a real interest in religion.
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What does his "real interest in religion" (or lack thereof) have to do with gay marriage?

And while that I'm sure makes some people even more happy, you are then forced to face the incontrovertible fact that if that all be true...he merely used gay people and gay marriage for nothing more than a political ploy his entire political career up to and including his now public 'support' of gay marriage. Tokens...thats awesome. Support THAT guy some more! :lamo
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I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning that he didn't actually believe the bull**** he was saying about marriage being between a man and a woman, and it looks like I was correct. If I had actually believed him, I would've been much less inclined to vote for him in 2008. Same goes for John Kerry in 2004.
 
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Kandahar said:
What does his "real interest in religion" (or lack thereof) have to do with gay marriage?



I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning that he didn't actually believe the bull**** he was saying about marriage being between a man and a woman, and it looks like I was correct. If I had actually believed him, I would've been much less inclined to vote for him in 2008. Same goes for John Kerry in 2004.
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It speaks VOLUMES about how much he 'cares' or about his values. It speaks volumes about how he views the gay community. Of course...why SHOULD he 'value' the gay community since they so easily sell out their own 'values' when it comes to politics.
 
Phys251 said:
The sad thing is, by taking what Mr. Cathy knew full and well was a polarizing stance, Chick-Fil-A will suddenly attract the support of some while repelling others. They're a fast food chain, for god's sake. Not a church. If he wanted to preach this kind of crap, at the very least he should have had the decency to do so from a church, if he weren't to have the decency not to say it in the first place. If this comes back to bite Chick-Fil-A hard--which I damn well hope it does--he'll have nothing to blame but his own stupidity.
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chik fil a is a family owned business; cathy's family
so, he can use his enterprise as a mechanism to push his social/political/religious agenda
the fellow is willing to put his money and his business on the line to support his wrong-headed campaign to prohibit marriage by individuals of the same sex
he need not be in a church pulpit to do that
while i oppose his message, we should in no way challenge his right to express it
but i do agree with you in that i hope he and his franchisees suffer greatly because of his intolerant stand
 
VanceMack said:
It speaks VOLUMES about how much he 'cares' or about his values. It speaks volumes about how he views the gay community.
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Or: It shows that he didn't want to take a political stance he perceived to be harmful in 2008, but by 2012 he calculated it wasn't all that harmful anymore. He is a politician, after all.

Of course...why SHOULD he 'value' the gay community since they so easily sell out their own 'values' when it comes to politics.
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What was their alternative? Voting for John McCain?
 
ChuckBerry said:
Muppets dump Chick-Fil-A to support gay marriage - Chicago Tribune

"The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors," the company said in a statement posted on their official Facebook page.

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The Henson company, whose Muppet characters are hugely popular, said its Chief Executive Lisa Henson is a "strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD," the company said in their statement.

Chick-Fil-A has not hidden its Christian mission statement from day one, which precedes the founding of Henson's company. If Henson actually gave a damn about the issue, rather than responding to pressure and then grandstanding, they might have never chosen to associate with Chick-Fil-A at all.

It's a pity that simple symbols and characters from childhood now have to be politicized.
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It's the owners money and they can do as they please. Wonder if Ms. Henson will returned/give away previous donations? Probably not.

Why, with all the money the Muppet trademark makes, hell I've bought at a minimum 3 Grovers, does anyone give them money?
 
Billy the Kid said:
It's the owners money and they can do as they please. Wonder if Ms. Henson will returned/give away previous donations? Probably not.

Why, with all the money the Muppet trademark makes, hell I've bought at a minimum 3 Grovers, does anyone give them money?
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Chick-Fil-A contracted with the Jim Henson Company to include muppet toys in kids' meals.
 
Kandahar said:
Or: It shows that he didn't want to take a political stance he perceived to be harmful in 2008, but by 2012 he calculated it wasn't all that harmful anymore. He is a politician, after all.
What was their alternative? Voting for John McCain?
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you continue to confirm the point. He doesn't give a **** about the gay community. He sees them as a tool...as a vote, and nothing more. And since you do readily compromise your 'values', why shouldn't he see you that way? Must suck to be a token.
 
So chik had no problem selling out to a pro gay group for profit then said:

Representatives for Chick-Fil-A were not immediately available for comment on Monday, but the company posted on their Facebook page last week that their restaurants "treat every person with honor, dignity and respect - regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender."

That's completely false considering their comments against SSM.
 
muciti said:
Got breakfast a Chick Fil A this morning. Holy freaking awesome burrito Batman. Everything else aside this chicken burrito is awesome.
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And you won't get "the gay" from it!
 
Furiounova said:
So chik had no problem selling out to a pro gay group for profit then said:

Representatives for Chick-Fil-A were not immediately available for comment on Monday, but the company posted on their Facebook page last week that their restaurants "treat every person with honor, dignity and respect - regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender."

That's completely false considering their comments against SSM.
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You can treat people with dignity and respect and be against SSM.

This whole thing is rather silly to me. If the dude wants to use his company to promote an anti-gay agenda, he's free to do so. If that pisses people off enough not to patronize his business as a result, they are free to do that. Everybody just get back to excercising your freedom, and we're fine.
 
justabubba said:
chik fil a is a family owned business; cathy's family
so, he can use his enterprise as a mechanism to push his social/political/religious agenda
the fellow is willing to put his money and his business on the line to support his wrong-headed campaign to prohibit marriage by individuals of the same sex
he need not be in a church pulpit to do that
while i oppose his message, we should in no way challenge his right to express it
but i do agree with you in that i hope he and his franchisees suffer greatly because of his intolerant stand
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If it comes down to it, chik will open up drive thru same sex wedding ceremonies before closing the chain down.
 
Furiounova said:
So chik had no problem selling out to a pro gay group for profit then said:

Representatives for Chick-Fil-A were not immediately available for comment on Monday, but the company posted on their Facebook page last week that their restaurants "treat every person with honor, dignity and respect - regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender."

That's completely false considering their comments against SSM.
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surprised that attorneys who specialize in title VII cases are not lined up at chik fil a, soliciting clients for discrimination filings
it would be difficult for the company to now defend against them
 
rocket88 said:
You can treat people with dignity and respect and be against SSM.

This whole thing is rather silly to me. If the dude wants to use his company to promote an anti-gay agenda, he's free to do so. If that pisses people off enough not to patronize his business as a result, they are free to do that. Everybody just get back to excercising your freedom, and we're fine.
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You cannot treat everyone the same while at the same time saying you are against SSM. It is an irreconcilable contradiction. I completely support his right to live by his bigotry.
 
VanceMack said:
you continue to confirm the point. He doesn't give a **** about the gay community. He sees them as a tool...as a vote, and nothing more.
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I don't really care what Obama or any other politician believes deep in their heart. As long as he's willing to implement progressive policies (and he has on gay rights), that's what's important.

And since you do readily compromise your 'values', why shouldn't he see you that way? Must suck to be a token.
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It's pretty disgusting that you use "gay" as a way to smear people, but to quote Jerry Seinfeld, "I'm not gay...not that there's anything wrong with that."
 
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