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Muppets owner Lisa Henson severs ties with Chick-Fil-A over SSM

 
Zyphlin said:
You realize there's a difference between believing that homosexuality is a sin and thus marriage shouldn't be allowed between two men or two females...and believing that if we allow it that it specifically will cause us to incur Gods Wrath. Hell, it's actually possible to believe that being gay itself isn't a sin, but that marriage is meant to be between one man and one woman anyways and thus disagree with gay marriage. That position would ALSO be different than Cathy's

Additionally there is the issue that, for some people, the issue that they care about or are talking most about isn't what the owner SAYS...but rather where the owners company donates money too, specifically to apparently a group who pushes for Homosexuality to be illegal. That is not something I believe falls in line with Obama's views.
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A 'sin'...that would be 'wrong' to someone that believed in such a manner, correct? So...degrees. A southern Baptist believes that violating Gods laws will bring about dire consequences, whereas apparently Obama believed...hmmm...that their lifestyle was a sin in opposition to Gods word, surely with some form of consequence. And he believed that pretty much his whole life...right up until the rich donors declared they were withholding their campaign contributions.
 
Thorgasm said:
I'll type slowly for you.
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Do you realize that no matter how slowly you type it all posts on here at the same speed? I am not actually watching you type it live.

Religious bigots don't want a segment of the population to marry the ones they love. I am not restricting religious bigots in that manner. You tried to say that I was equally bigoted. That is not true.
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You are equally bigoted. You discriminate on people based on their beliefs. Based on their religion. You expect people to be tolerant of your beliefs yet you dont seem to think you have to be tolerant of theirs. You are equally bigoted as people who discriminate against minorities, gays, women or anyone else.
 
Thorgasm said:
I'm not sure how this relates to my comment you quoted. I don't think those people were bringing people together either.
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Because I want to see if you sides actions but not another's.

I didn't ask if you think the mosque people weren't bringing people together. You seem to have no issue with the notion of the businesses being black balled by the government based on other posts you made. I wanted to see if you condemn one side's actions but not the other thus making your argument I quoted rather hillarious...or if you're consistent and thus your argument has some value to it.
 
Thorgasm said:
I don't believe they are offering Muppet toys with the White House happy meals.
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Perhaps they should...they are :rofl :rofl fun!
 
VanceMack said:
So...THATS it then? If not because of his religious beliefs (well...except by his own words, it WAS because of his religious beliefs) why then did Obama maintain a position AGAINST gay marriage?
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Political expediency. Are you surprised?
 
VanceMack said:
A 'sin'...that would be 'wrong' to someone that believed in such a manner, correct? So...degrees. A southern Baptist believes that violating Gods laws will bring about dire consequences, whereas apparently Obama believed...hmmm...that their lifestyle was a sin in opposition to Gods word, surely with some form of consequence. And he believed that pretty much his whole life...right up until the rich donors declared they were withholding their campaign contributions.
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Yes. Degree's. Degree's matter.

Are you going to tell me someone Punching you in the face and someone clicking a pencil are on equal level and should be given equal disdain because they are both annoying?
 
Zyphlin said:
Yes. Degree's. Degree's matter.

Are you going to tell me someone Punching you in the face and someone clicking a pencil are on equal level and should be given equal disdain because they are both annoying?
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If you dont believe what the ChikFilA owners position on gay marriage IS (and BTW I DONT) then the 'degree' is completely irrelevant. The end result here on...you know...EARTH...is precisely the same. Who gives a **** if he thinks it will bring Gods wrath, a plague of hand puppet frogs, or cause it to rain McNuggets from the sky?
 
VanceMack said:
That CHANGES his position on gay marriage how exactly? A private business owner held the same position that up until 2 months ago your beloved leader held. APPARENTLY you think Obama was just FRIVOLOUSLY opposed to gay marriage then?
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Here you go again repeating retarded rhetoric.

He is not my "beloved leader". Put down the Kool-Aid and turn off the caps lock fury.
 
Thorgasm said:
Political expediency. Are you surprised?
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Shocked that you admit it actually...since that IS what this is all about. His...the mayors...the Muppet owners...etc.
 
muciti said:
You are equally bigoted. You discriminate on people based on their beliefs. Based on their religion. You expect people to be tolerant of your beliefs yet you dont seem to think you have to be tolerant of theirs. You are equally bigoted as people who discriminate against minorities, gays, women or anyone else.
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You want to restrict people, homosexuals, from marriage. There is no significant movement to restrict legal heterosexual marriage.
 
Thorgasm said:
Here you go again repeating retarded rhetoric.

He is not my "beloved leader". Put down the Kool-Aid and turn off the caps lock fury.
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Three words does not a caps lock make, and you sure do jump to to defend his every action...so...yeah...kinda is...
 
muciti said:
Do you realize that no matter how slowly you type it all posts on here at the same speed? I am not actually watching you type it live.
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No, I didn't realize that. That's for the information!

muciti said:
You are equally bigoted. You discriminate on people based on their beliefs. Based on their religion. You expect people to be tolerant of your beliefs yet you dont seem to think you have to be tolerant of theirs. You are equally bigoted as people who discriminate against minorities, gays, women or anyone else.
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Tolerance doesn't mean you have to accept other people's intolerance.
 
winston53660 said:
You want to restrict people, homosexuals, from marriage. There is no significant movement to restrict legal heterosexual marriage.
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First off you have no clue what I want to do so dont sit here and speculate or push lies as truth.
Second, restriction of marriage is not the only way to discriminate against someone.
 
winston53660 said:
You want to restrict people, homosexuals, from marriage. There is no significant movement to restrict legal heterosexual marriage.
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So...up until 2 months ago Obama WAS a bigot...right up until, in the name of political expediency, he 'changed' his position. Well...that must cause complete satisfaction knowing the person you voted for and support is A-a bigot and B-cares so very little for gay people
 
Thorgasm said:
Tolerance doesn't mean you have to accept other people's intolerance.
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Holy ****...

And yet you DO...when they are someone you vote for.
 
muciti said:
First off you have no clue what I want to do so dont sit here and speculate or push lies as truth.
Second, restriction of marriage is not the only way to discriminate against someone.
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Cool then you think States, Feds should recognize gay marriage and if not say so.
 
VanceMack said:
So...up until 2 months ago Obama WAS a bigot...right up until, in the name of political expediency, he 'changed' his position. Well...that must cause complete satisfaction knowing the person you voted for and support is A-a bigot and B-cares so very little for gay people
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No, this was his position:

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that's not what America's about. Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don't contract them.
Barack Obama

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muciti said:
You can go back to every post I have ever made on this site and try to find any post where I have ever said differently. Good luck.
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I'm not going to do that. So what is your beef here? You don't think Mayors have the right to freedom of speech? or what?
 
VanceMack said:
So...up until 2 months ago Obama WAS a bigot...right up until, in the name of political expediency, he 'changed' his position. Well...that must cause complete satisfaction knowing the person you voted for and support is A-a bigot and B-cares so very little for gay people
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Except no one actually believed that Obama didn't support same-sex marriage in the first place. This Chick-Fil-A guy clearly supports discrimination. **** him.
 
Zyphlin said:
However, the norm for the majority of your strict fundamentalist southern baptists, which is what Cathy is and has made no bones about it, is opposition to gay marriage.
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And, of course, the original statement did not limit the group in question to Southern Babtists, the fundamentalist nature of which is so often diametrically opposed to Jesus' teachings, preferring the fire and brimstone of the O.T., or the intolerance of Paul.

Zyphlin said:
Apparently stereotyping how a group is going to vote based singularly on their religious beliefs as a means to attempt to insult them, as often happens with regards to evangelicals and the "religious right" is perfectly okay. However, stereotyping them based singularly on their religious beliefs when it would keep you from eating their tasty tasty chicken....absolutely unfathomable and you would of course only act once it's blatantly stated that they hold that stereotypical view.

That's the part that makes me chuckle.
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You chuckle? I had no idea.

As to the stereotyping, however, I do believe I am the one trying to point out that there are many true Christians who interpret their bible by following Jesus, Who, of course, would be quite aghast at His name being leant to this myopic and idiotic brand of persecution. He never once mentioned Homosexuality, and so if He thought it as a sin so important as to elevete it into a crusade to hurt people, He certainly never mentioned it.
 
Zyphlin said:
Because I want to see if you sides actions but not another's.

I didn't ask if you think the mosque people weren't bringing people together. You seem to have no issue with the notion of the businesses being black balled by the government based on other posts you made. I wanted to see if you condemn one side's actions but not the other thus making your argument I quoted rather hillarious...or if you're consistent and thus your argument has some value to it.
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While I am sure it is hypocritical of me to support one situation and not another, I am consistent in the fact that I oppose bigotry. If the Ground Zero Mosque was opposed because of their stance and public comments on SSM, the issue would be the same. Or if Chicago and Boston were denying licenses simple because the Presidents of companies were Christian it would be the same. The people opposed to the Ground Zero Mosque did so out of the bigoted theme that Muslim=terrorist. I am not saying that Christian=anti-gay. It is nuanced and therefore inconsistent with regards to government power, but it is consistent with being against bigotry.
 
VanceMack said:
Shocked that you admit it actually...since that IS what this is all about. His...the mayors...the Muppet owners...etc.
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I stated in the other thread that the politicians are grandstanding.
 
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