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Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

The longer I've had to think about this, the madder it makes me. This is really an underlying problem -- the fact that politicians use their power to punish and censor. There was a time in our culture (not long ago) that an alderman or mayor coming out and saying he was going to do everything in his power to stop a faith-based company from opening up shop in his neighborhood would have been tarred, feathered and run out of town.

But today, if one comes out and says, "We are a faith-based company who believes in the Biblical defintion of marriage," it's okay-fine to use your political clout to bring them to their knees."

We should be outraged.

I'm outraged that this is even an issue.
 
Clearly Rahm has never eaten at one of these restaurants. Unarguably the best fast food place in my area from a customer service point of view and a food quality/taste point of view. Their only crime is not opening on Sundays! (Though it's a fantastic policy for the people working there)
 
What does this have ANYTHING to do with the comment I made?
Sorry, I was commenting on the concept that city officials are openly discussing denying a company a business permit based on the protected speech made by the CEO.
If the public chooses not to patronize that business, that is one thing, for the city to deny them a right to try is
discrimination.
 
Sorry, I was commenting on the concept that city officials are openly discussing denying a company a business permit based on the protected speech made by the CEO.
If the public chooses not to patronize that business, that is one thing, for the city to deny them a right to try is
discrimination.

And my comment that you quoted specifically stated I am NOT for the government abusing their power to deny a company a business permit based on who they give money to. However, I do believe individuals have the right to boycott this comapny.
 
And my comment that you quoted specifically stated I am NOT for the government abusing their power to deny a company a business permit based on who they give money to. However, I do believe individuals have the right to boycott this comapny.
I dont think anyone is denying the individual right to boycott. The bigger picture here is that a government official has put his (and several other) cities at risk to civil litigation in the name of partisanship and hyopocrisy. And lets be honest...if you are a homosexual and arent pissed to the wall at Rahm Emmanuel for his selective outrage while he endorsed and embraced Farrakhan who has said far worse about homosexuals than Cathy ever has...then...straight up? You yourself are a worthless piece of **** that sells out your 'values' for politics. You deserve no respect because you dont respect yourself. This ginned up controversy specifically exploits the same people that Emmanuel, with his very next action, ****s all over.
 
With Chick-fil-A fight, progressive mayors get their ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ moment - Guest Voices - The Washington Post
"This week, mayors of Boston, Chicago and San Francisco warned Chick-fil-A and its CEO Dan Cathy, who’s been an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage, not to pursue new franchises in their cities. Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said he shares his fellow mayors’ concerns and would consider trying to block the chain as well.

“Closest #ChickFilA to San Francisco is 40 miles away,” tweeted San Francisco Mayor Edwin Lee on July 26, “& I strongly recommend that they not try to come any closer.”"

Do you think they mean to deny the chain entry into their cities by force of will?
No they will deny them a permit!
...or what?
 
I dont think anyone is denying the individual right to boycott. The bigger picture here is that a government official has put his (and several other) cities at risk to civil litigation in the name of partisanship and hyopocrisy.

I agree with that. However, there are people upset at just individuals boycotting this.

And lets be honest...if you are a homosexual and arent pissed to the wall at Rahm Emmanuel for his selective outrage while he endorsed and embraced Farrakhan who has said far worse about homosexuals than Cathy ever has...then...straight up? You yourself are a worthless piece of **** that sells out your 'values' for politics. You deserve no respect because you dont respect yourself. This ginned up controversy specifically exploits the same people that Emmanuel, with his very next action, ****s all over.

Any conservative voting for Romney then is a worthless piece of **** that sells out their values for politics. They deserve no respect becuase they don't respect themeselves.

Works in many ways.
 
I agree with that. However, there are people upset at just individuals boycotting this.



Any conservative voting for Romney then is a worthless piece of **** that sells out their values for politics. They deserve no respect becuase they don't respect themeselves.

Works in many ways.
Any 'conservative' voting for ANY GOP candidate is as mindless as anyone that votes for a democrat based solely on party affiliation. It does indeed cut both ways.
 
I agree with that. However, there are people upset at just individuals boycotting this.
I'm all for people expressing themselves using their most powerful voting means...their dollar. I think people that boycotted Target for selling Rainbow Oreos are foolish...but hey...have a ball. People want to boycott ChickFilA because the owner doesnt believe the laws should be changed to allow for gay marriage? By all means...by your fast food elsewhere. I will be interested to see what the end result of all this will be. Im willing to bet that their business bottom line has actually increased.
 
I'm all for people expressing themselves using their most powerful voting means...their dollar. I think people that boycotted Target for selling Rainbow Oreos are foolish...but hey...have a ball. People want to boycott ChickFilA because the owner doesnt believe the laws should be changed to allow for gay marriage? By all means...by your fast food elsewhere. I will be interested to see what the end result of all this will be. Im willing to bet that their business bottom line has actually increased.

I don't know whether it has increased or decreased and frankly I don't care one way or another. I only speak for what I can spend my money on.

I would be willing to bet 5 years of salary that this will not break them, however, it could decrese their profits over this I don't know. My only point is that it is people's right to so and in this case I think it is right they boycott it.
 
I don't know whether it has increased or decreased and frankly I don't care one way or another. I only speak for what I can spend my money on.

I would be willing to bet 5 years of salary that this will not break them, however, it could decrese their profits over this I don't know. My only point is that it is people's right to so and in this case I think it is right they boycott it.

Yep, I think it's perfectly fine, too. But I think their business will actually increase. This has brought them front and center in the news and caused many people to think, "Oh!!! ChickFilA!!! We haven't had one in ages!!"
 
Yep, I think it's perfectly fine, too. But I think their business will actually increase. This has brought them front and center in the news and caused many people to think, "Oh!!! ChickFilA!!! We haven't had one in ages!!"

I had never heard of them before this came out.
 
I don't know whether it has increased or decreased and frankly I don't care one way or another. I only speak for what I can spend my money on.

I would be willing to bet 5 years of salary that this will not break them, however, it could decrese their profits over this I don't know. My only point is that it is people's right to so and in this case I think it is right they boycott it.

That said...this is a company who actively chooses to shut down on Sunday's every week for largely religious motivations, a move that undoubtably causes them profit loss. I have a feeling that while they will be bothered if they lose some profits, which remains to be seen, that they won't necessarily regret their stance nor change it. And I highly doubt it'll be a big enough hit that it significantly changes the business model or likelihood of the chains continued over all success.
 
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That said...this is a country who actively chooses to shut down on Sunday's every week for largely religious motivations, a move that undoubtably causes them profit loss. I have a feeling that while they will be bothered if they lose some profits, which remains to be seen, that they won't necessarily regret their stance nor change it. And I highly doubt it'll be a big enough hit that it significantly changes the business model or likelihood of the chains continued over all success.

It probably won't be enough to shut them down or cause them to change their stance, but then my goal isn't to shut them down. It just is to not support them with my money and my family also supports that and is doing that as well. If enough people boycott them and it does change their stance, great. If it doesn't, no skin off my back they just don't get my money.
 
I don't recall you having a problem with other conservatives focusing on Obama's Birth Certificate instead of the economy or debt. Why is that?

You don't recall? I don't know why you don't recall, you'll have to answer that.
 
It probably won't be enough to shut them down or cause them to change their stance, but then my goal isn't to shut them down. It just is to not support them with my money and my family also supports that and is doing that as well. If enough people boycott them and it does change their stance, great. If it doesn't, no skin off my back they just don't get my money.
Its kinda silly to think that the guy will ever 'change his stance' and the company and business operations have never been accused of discriminatory practices (quite the opposite). I am all for that principled stand...I just wonder if hizzoner the Mayor of Chicago has gotten your letter of upset for his willingness to use the gay community as nothing but a token?
 
I just wonder if hizzoner the Mayor of Chicago has gotten your letter of upset for his willingness to use the gay community as nothing but a token?

Why would the Mayor of Chicago care about a letter sent from someone in Nevada?
 
Clearly Rahm has never eaten at one of these restaurants. Unarguably the best fast food place in my area from a customer service point of view and a food quality/taste point of view. Their only crime is not opening on Sundays! (Though it's a fantastic policy for the people working there)

I dont think CFA has ever gotten my order wrong and the last two orders I had from McDonalds where wrong. They really are one of the best fast food restaurants out there.
 
You don't recall? I don't know why you don't recall, you'll have to answer that.

Please provide the post showing you were upset at conservative's wasting time with Obama's Birth Certificate then.
 
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Some of us can think about more than one thing at once....
 
I was out and about at lunch, and thought about stopping at Chick-Fil-A, but it was too crowded.
I mean the place was packed, the drive through line was out into the street and no parking places in the lot.
 
I was out and about at lunch, and thought about stopping at Chick-Fil-A, but it was too crowded.
I mean the place was packed, the drive through line was out into the street and no parking places in the lot.

So where did you get lunch?
 
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