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Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

radcen said:
I wanted to challenge the notion that CfA was somehow standing alone, but never got to it. I knew there had to be more companies with similar mindsets from ownership than only CfA. The only one for sure I could think of was Curves.

I know that the family that owns In-n-Out Burger is also deeply religious, but I don't know if they support specific causes to the extreme that CfA does. They don't close on Sunday like CfA does, so they may not (be as extreme).
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Side note: It wasn't until Neil Peart pointed it out that I realized In-n-Out shake cups and burger wraps have bible verses on them. I've eaten there all my life and never noticed that.

I guess God is in the details.
 
So, this is weird and kind of related:

Donald A. Perry, vice-president of public relations at Chick-fil-A, died this morning from a heart attack, in the midst of a growing national controversy over the fast-food restaurant's opposition to gay marriage. "We are saddened to report the news to you that our dear friend Don Perry, vice president of public relations, passed away suddenly this morning," said a company statement.

Chick-fil-A's Vice President of P.R. Dies
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Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
Corporations that openly support Same Sex Marriage....

Amazon
Apple
Electronic Arts
Ford
General Mills
General Motors
Goldman Sachs
Google
Home Depot
IBM
JC Penny
Kraft Foods
McDonalds
Microsoft
Nike
Pepsi
Proctor and Gamble
Sears
Starbucks
Target
United Airlines
Walgreens
The Walt Disney Company
Wells Fargo

Corporations that openly oppose Same Sex Marriage...

Chick-fil-A


That should say enough right there.
Holy dishonest. Let's make a more complete list of companies that support anti-gay rights issues.

Chic-Fil-A
AUto-Zone
Cracker Barrel(until 2002, you could not even work there if you where gay)
Cinemark
Dish Network
Domino's Pizza
Gold's Gym(holy irony there)
Insure.com
Salvation Army

Guy Dads: Anti-gay companies

I am pretty sure that the stats on the Same-Sex Marriage is that a helluva lot more States are against it than for it. And, more to the point, The Supreme Court of the United States considers Same Sex marriages as bogus.

As to the obvious larger number of companies endorsing queer marriage, the only thing that proves is that these companies probably ran market surveys and found that the LIEberrhoidals feel more strongly about their convictions as far as extending that to their purchases, etc. And, that LIEberrhoidal PC is very effective.
 
hazlnut said:
Side note: It wasn't until Neil Peart pointed it out that I realized In-n-Out shake cups and burger wraps have bible verses on them. I've eaten there all my life and never noticed that.

I guess God is in the details.
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Hey, if that's what it takes to get a righteous burger and fries... :2razz:
 
HoongLoong said:
As to the obvious larger number of companies endorsing queer marriage, the only thing that proves is that these companies probably ran market surveys and found that the LIEberrhoidals feel more strongly about their convictions as far as extending that to their purchases, etc. And, that LIEberrhoidal PC is very effective.
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Stay classy.
 
hazlnut said:
Define "reprisal."

Anyone is allowed to offer up an opinion and a community can set standards for the type of businesses they want in their town.

Chick-Flic-a brand is now associated with WBC ignorance, that an invisible man in the sky is going to smite American for being tolerant. That Chick-flic-a brand, the sign, the logo may inspire feelings of oppression, disgust, nausea... just like the sign for a strip club or adult book store, or a Nazi flag. A community has the right to say, we don't want your business here.

Now, withholding permits is a different issue. I agree, a mayor has to tread lightly. A government entity should not take direct action unless they can show a conflict or interest in the community, as with strip clubs and adult book stores.

But a community has the right to speak up at a board meeting, permit hearing, whatever and voice concerns. The City of Chicago has the right to say, 'We don't like you and we wish you were not in our town.' And the mayor can speak for the people. He was elected to do so.
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I have no problems with the mayors of these towns calling Cathy an idiot for his beliefs and/or statements. I take issue if they refuse to issue a business license because of his statements as it's been reported they have done. The latter I consider reprisal.
 
HoongLoong said:
As to the obvious larger number of companies endorsing queer marriage, the only thing that proves is that these companies probably ran market surveys and found that the LIEberrhoidals feel more strongly about their convictions as far as extending that to their purchases, etc. And, that LIEberrhoidal PC is very effective.
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Watch what you say, the invisible man in the sky smited the VP of Chik-flic-a today, coincidentally with a heart attack.

The big guy has spoken and he don't like homophobes. Perhaps you all better stop, or at least stop calling yourself 'christians'...
 
Phoenix said:
I have no problems with the mayors of these towns calling Cathy an idiot for his beliefs and/or statements. I take issue if they refuse to issue a business license because of his statements as it's been reported they have done. The latter I consider reprisal.
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I agree with that. They could get in some trouble on that one.
 
radcen said:
You're new, I get that, but if this is the maturity level of your discourse, I really don't give a rats arse what you say. You can agree with me, and I'd still discount your opinion.
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Apparently, you're not new, but your discourse intended to convince anyone of maturity while resorting to what seems your favorite preoccupation with a rat's arse is not very convincing.

BTW, an apt neologism that encapsulates the characteristics of slime isn't something that one should perceive as undesirable. Enlarge your intellectual horizons.
 
HoongLoong said:
BTW, an apt neologism that encapsulates the characteristics of slime isn't something that one should perceive as undesirable. Enlarge your intellectual horizons.
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Put down the Thesaurus and tell us what you really think...
 
hazlnut said:
I agree with that. They could get in some trouble on that one.
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Agreed. Plus if a business license can be rejected because of the owners stand on gay marriage, then it is entirely legitimate for the mayor of Jerkwater USA to reject a license for a business whose owner supports gay marriage. Its a two way street.
 
Meanwhile, Rahm embraces Farrahkan. Chicago's mongrels run the murder rate to new levels of horror. And we are worried about the values of grilled chicken on a bun.

Hey. Want to add. Some cows, and some chickens, are gay. Go figure.
 
radcen said:
You're new, I get that, but if this is the maturity level of your discourse, I really don't give a rats arse what you say. You can agree with me, and I'd still discount your opinion.
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Apparently, you're not new. And, I get that. However, I don't think it is convincing to resort to what may be your preoccupation with a rat's arse, as a convincing method to instruct someone to change his creative mode of expression.

Furthermore, one should welcome a neologism that aptly encapsulates the concept of slime instead of attacking it.

I suggest you enlarge your weltanschauung thus increasing your chances to be one with Reality.

Sorry for being repetitive, but for a while there my original post disappeared.
 
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Redress said:
Holy dishonest. Let's make a more complete list of companies that support anti-gay rights issues.

Chic-Fil-A
AUto-Zone
Cracker Barrel(until 2002, you could not even work there if you where gay)
Cinemark
Dish Network
Domino's Pizza
Gold's Gym(holy irony there)
Insure.com
Salvation Army

Guy Dads: Anti-gay companies
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Go read it again. The key word was "openly".
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Hey. Want to add. Some cows, and some chickens, are gay. Go figure.
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If you eat a gay chicken at Chik-fil-a, does the invisible man in the sky smite the gay virus and prevent you from turing gay or infecting your children with the gay flu?

Just thinking out loud--are the Evangelicals protected from gayness by the invisible sky man?
 
HoongLoong said:
I am pretty sure that the stats on the Same-Sex Marriage is that a helluva lot more States are against it than for it.
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Appeal to the majority fallacy. I was playing when I did it with the corporations, but you are actually serious, which is sad.

And, more to the point, The Supreme Court of the United States considers Same Sex marriages as bogus.
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Oooookay. Given that the Supreme Court has yet to hear the Prop 8 case or the DOMA case and the sitting Supreme Court has never ruled on Same Sex Marriage.

As to the obvious larger number of companies endorsing queer marriage, the only thing that proves is that these companies probably ran market surveys and found that the LIEberrhoidals feel more strongly about their convictions as far as extending that to their purchases, etc. And, that LIEberrhoidal PC is very effective.
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Uh huh. Riiiiight.
 
hazlnut said:
Watch what you say, the invisible man in the sky smited the VP of Chik-flic-a today, coincidentally with a heart attack.

The big guy has spoken and he don't like homophobes. Perhaps you all better stop, or at least stop calling yourself 'christians'...
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I am not a Christian. As a matter of fact I don't believe in any of the regurgitated mythologies of the Organized Religions of the World. I don't believe in prayers to those gods whereupon the statistical chances of any of them being realized is identical to praying to the nearest rock in one's garden.

My God, if it exists, is Einstein's or Spinoza's God: The Sum Total of the Laws of the Universe. Praying to that is like praying to lightening so it won't strike you. There ain't no heaven or hell. We will all turn into fertilizer not unlike the lowly cockroach snuffling around hither and yon.

I am not the homophobe whom you are implying that I am. I simply don't accept individuals distorting the English language to suit their sexual predilections.
 
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HoongLoong said:
I am not a Christian. As a matter of fact I don't believe in any of the regurgitated mythologies of the Organized Religions of the World. I don't believe in prayers to those gods whereupon the statistical chances of any of them being realized is identical to praying to the nearest rock in one's garden.

My God, if it exists, is Einstein's or Spinoza's God: The Sum Total of the Laws of the Universe. Praying to that is like praying to lightening so it won't strike you. There ain't no heaven or hell. We will all turn into fertilizer not unlike the lowly cockroach snuffling around hither and yon.

I am not the homophobe whom you are implying that I am. I simply don't accept individuals distorting the English language to suit their sexual predilections.
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individuals? Who?
Distorting english language? How
 
HoongLoong said:
I simply don't accept individuals distorting the English language to suit their sexual predilections.
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If you are referring to the word "gay" then you should probably look into the history of that a bit more. It was used first by heterosexuals to imply heterosexually unconstrained lifestyles and later for hedonistic and uninhibited lifestyles. It was used by heterosexuals to suit their sexual predilections decades before gays ever began to use it.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HoongLoong View Post
I am pretty sure that the stats on the Same-Sex Marriage is that a helluva lot more States are against it than for it.

Critical thought:
Appeal to the majority fallacy. I was playing when I did it with the corporations, but you are actually serious, which is sad.

My response: what you consider sad or joyful is of monumental disinterest to me.

HoongLoong:
And, more to the point, The Supreme Court of the United States considers Same Sex marriages as bogus.

Critical Thought:
Oooookay. Given that the Supreme Court has yet to hear the Prop 8 case or the DOMA case and the sitting Supreme Court has never ruled on Same Sex Marriage.

My response:
The Supreme Court doesn't have to consider Prop 8 or the DOMA, neither does it have to consider the possible cases against Twinkies. The fact is SCOTUS considers Same Sex marriages as BOGUS. If that doesn't suit you, don't try to re-invent REALITY.

HoongLoong:
As to the obvious larger number of companies endorsing queer marriage, the only thing that proves is that these companies probably ran market surveys and found that the LIEberrhoidals feel more strongly about their convictions as far as extending that to their purchases, etc. And, that LIEberrhoidal PC is very effective.

Critical Thought:
Uh huh. Riiiiight.

My response:
" Uh huh. Riiiiight." ?!?!? Not a very convincing response. More of a cop out than a response.
 
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