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Rahm: “Chick-fil-A Values Are Not Chicago Values” [W:698]

Miguel17 said:
Businesses do not have inalienable rights to open locations within cities. They have to apply for the license. Whichever city official makes that decision is not constitutionally bound to give the license to certain people, he can give it whomever he pleases.
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These decisions can be challenged in court if they are made in an arbitrary and capricious manner, as would be the case if they were turned down only because of the company president's view on gay marriage.

BTW, Rahm recently welcomed Louis Farrakhan to Chicago, so he seems to have no problem with Farrakhan's view on gay marrage (very much against) or gays (he loves them but thinks they're sick, degenerate, sinful, and headed for Hell).
 
LowDown said:
These decisions can be challenged in court if they are made in an arbitrary and capricious manner, as would be the case if they were turned down only because of the company president's view on gay marriage.

BTW, Rahm recently welcomed Louis Farrakhan to Chicago, so he seems to have no problem with Farrakhan's view on gay marrage (very much against) or gays (he loves them but thinks they're sick, degenerate, sinful, and headed for Hell).
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But you see, thats CONSISTENT. PC is ALWAYS a part of Rahm Emmanuels values and embracing black groups is ALWAYS a good thing. Speaking OUT against Farrakhan (or lets be honest...ANY black groups that dont accept gay marriage) and denying him access to the city because their position on homosexuals would be a blow politically...cant risk losing those votes. THATS what its all about, which completely witnesses and testifies to the absolute lack of 'values' they have.
 
OscarB63 said:
Sarcasm in response to your assertion that bigots would eat at CFA based soley on the MGT's "hatred" of faggots.

I could be the world's biggest racist but I would never give my patronage to a business with crappy product just because they hate darkies.


People eat at CFA because they like the food. If the food sucked people would not eat there no matter how much they agree with policy.

Most people don't have money to throw away in support of ideaology
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Fairly certain a few people have proclaimed they planned to eat at CFA more because of their stance
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Fairly certain a few people have proclaimed they planned to eat at CFA more because of their stance
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The key word being "more".... They already eat there because they like the food.

I haven't seen anyone here say "chik-fil-a's food sucks but I'm gonna eat there anyway because they hate gays"

There is a local fast food chain in my area called "Jack's". I think their food is horrible. If they came out tomorrow and supported the idea that miltary vet's shouldn't pay income tax, I still wouldn't eat there.
 
Mason66 said:
Would it be OK to arrest somebody for saying they are against SSM?

Would it be OK to give them 2 years in prison for saying they are against SSM?

The government action is what surpresses free speech.

That is the same effect here.

The government is trying to scare people into not saying what they feel out of fear of government action against them.
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arresting somebody and putting them in prison is NOT the same LOL because the argument is they are no longer free at all and cant voice their opinion to anybody but the walls in their cell

also how do you know the "government" (some mayors that will lose if push comes to shove) are trying to "scare" people. What proof of that do you have? thats more hyperbole just like the OP.

What they are doing is wrong IMO but the CEOs free speech is still intact.

this is NOT the same at all, these guys are trying something that is wrong and they are discriminating against them unfairly which is wrong but their speech is not infringed. :shrug: a handful of people and the OP can try and make that connection if they want buts its a failed one.
 
While I support individuals boycotting Chik-Fil-A I do not support government officials using their powers to prevent this restraunt from coming in.

It's just as bad when government officials have gotten involved with strip clubs and preventing them from coming into places.
 
There are people who are organizing an Eat and Chick-fil-A day (probably several).

I think that's as stupid as the boycotts.

I like Chick-fil-A. I'll eat there when I choose to eat there. I'm not going to stop eating there because someone wants me to; nor am I going to go because someone wants me to.

Like I said, those who politicize every aspect of their lives must be miserable, uptight people. I choose not to be.
 
Thorgasm said:
So revoking a rapist's drivers license would be as effective as prison time?
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their effectiveness is irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that it would be leverage as a punitive measure
 
Mason66 said:
So what was the point of Rahm even saying this if they are already in that area?

Seems really stupid on his part to start this conversation for nothing.
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hyperbole to fire up the base.
 
TheNextEra said:
While I support individuals boycotting Chik-Fil-A I do not support government officials using their powers to prevent this restraunt from coming in.

It's just as bad when government officials have gotten involved with strip clubs and preventing them from coming into places.
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and if push comes to shove they will probably fail because unless theres some BS loophole they can bury this is, its unfair discrimination but its not an infringement of free speech
 
Objective-J said:
and if push comes to shove they will probably fail because unless theres some BS loophole they can bury this is, its unfair discrimination but its not an infringement of free speech
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Don't necessarily need a loophole. They can use bureaucracy to slow it down or downright stop it. Just grind the permitting process to halt. It is Chicago after all.
 
Fishstyx said:
Don't necessarily need a loophole. They can use bureaucracy to slow it down or downright stop it. Just grind the permitting process to halt. It is Chicago after all.
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Absolutely, they can do this. But it would be just as repugnant... if not more so.
 
I've actually realized I've had a fair bit of Chick-Fil-A the past few days. Not because of any kind of concerted effort...just kind of happened. Though I can't deny that seeing talk about it each day has made me go "mmmmm....chicken sandwich"
 
ChuckBerry said:
BTW it's a pity I don't like Chik-Fil-A's food, else I would switch all my fast food consumption to them exclusively.
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I'll pick up your slack. I've never eaten there and HATE the spelling of their name, but I keep hearing/reading that the food is great.
 
Mason66 said:
So what was the point of Rahm even saying this if they are already in that area?

Seems really stupid on his part to start this conversation for nothing.
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You are probably correct.
 
nota bene said:
I'll pick up your slack. I've never eaten there and HATE the spelling of their name, but I keep hearing/reading that the food is great.
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Fine eat there . Get their Chicken sandwich with 1400 mgs of sodium and a fries 150mg. Be careful not to add salt to your fries because you are already at 1550 mgs of sodium and the recommended daily dose for a heart healthy treating your body as a temple is 2000mgs per day.

Chick fil A Sandwich Menu | Chicken Strips and Nuggets
 
winston53660 said:
Fine eat there . Get their Chicken sandwich with 1400 mgs of sodium and a fries 150mg. Be careful not to add salt to your fries because you are already at 1550 mgs of sodium and the recommended daily dose for a heart healthy treating your body as a temple is 2000mgs per day.

Chick fil A Sandwich Menu | Chicken Strips and Nuggets
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Ah, papa, don't preach. You don't know me or what I prefer to eat. I hate salt. But I love salads. Chick fil A Salad and Dressing Menu | Chicken Salad Menu
 
Where are these Chik-Fil-A's located? Certainly not in Rochester that i know of? Damn shame, I'd visit them frequently. Taking stands works both ways. :)

Tim-
 
Thorgasm said:
Mason66 said:
Thorgasm said:
Chicagoland already has 5 and the Boston area has 2.
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So what was the point of Rahm even saying this if they are already in that area?

Seems really stupid on his part to start this conversation for nothing.
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You are probably correct.
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Only one appears to be in Chicago-proper. Still, unless CfA currently has (or will soon have) an application in for another one, then we're back at the grandstanding aspect.
 
winston53660 said:
Their Chargrilled & Fruit Salad has 450mgs of sodium. Right there that is almost a 1/4 of the recommended allowance. Add crutons and your over a quarter.

The Chick-n-Strips Salad is 960mgs.
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So what? As long as you don't eat there 3-4 times a day you're still good
 
I respect the rights and opinions of business owners. If an owner doesn't agree with gay marriage, so the **** what? Let it go and stop being so damned sensitive. I cannot believe this Rahm schmuck thinks he can punish people who don't share his views. It's a dangerous precedent to punish people for their points of view.
 
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