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Top Republicans denounce attack on Clinton aide

Are you comparing white supremacists to Muslims?

No, I'm comparing white supremacists to terrorist orginizations. Nice try to sucker me into an infraction, though.
 
It's no more racial profiling than zinging a white person for having connections to a white supremacist group

Ok. Did I ever criticize / not criticize that? No. Now you are straw manning on a position which I've never mentioned. Nice.
 
No, I'm comparing white supremacists to terrorist orginizations. Nice try to sucker me into an infraction, though.

Im glad we agree that most Muslims are not extremists. And any suggestion of such is dishonest bigotry.
 
Ok. Did I ever criticize / not criticize that? No. Now you are straw manning on a position which I've never mentioned. Nice.

No, just presenting a different scenario that would be more exceptable to some folks who are getting their panties in a twist over this.
 
No, just presenting a different scenario that would be more exceptable to some folks who are getting their panties in a twist over this.

Ok. Well I'd certainly be consistant so, either they're both wrong or they're not. No if, ands, or buts about it.
 
Im glad we agree that most Muslims are not extremists. And any suggestion of such is dishonest bigotry.

Kinda like this comment?

he is indeed.

many Conservatives, like Oliver North, believe that ALL Muslims are Jihadists, as Jihad is paramount to Islam.
 
Issues like this, remind me of what it was like to be a Jew in the USA, 50 years ago.

back then, it was Jews & Catholics, who were facing such bigoted suspicion.
 
Here's the issue as I've heard it. Has nothing to do with Huma's religion, it has everything to do with involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood's female wing, the Muslim Sisterhood, both wings of that movement have been condemned by multiple federal agencies. Now, if it were about anti-(insert religion) sentiment I'd be 100% on board for condemnation. I will say I haven't read much on the issue and going off of what I've initially seen due to the nature of larger problems facing our country at this time.

It is about anti-Muslim sentiments. Abedin is attacked because Bachman claims "her family has ties to Muslim Brotherhood", note that's her family, not Abedin herself. That's like WWII, if your family is Japanese, off you go to the "internment" camp, doesn't matter what your history actually is or whether you're guilty of anything or not in Bachman's deluded mind.

If anyone was seriously concerned about foreign influence on the US government, look no further than Israel, but that's not the real concern here. If anyone want to get rid of religious influence on the US government, look to Christianity, but that's not the issue here. The issue is that Bachman is a bigot who thinks she can benefit from the anti-Muslin hysteria amongst her followings.
 
How much Liberal ignorance can you possibly have in one thread, apparently alot.

So then if someone questions someones background which includes family members that belong to the Muslim Brotherhood & Sisterhood they are a biggot? Do you realize that Hamas is an offshoot of the brotherhood? Do you realize Ayman Zawahari (the current head of Al Qaida and 9-11 mastermind) was a member of the brotherhood in Egypt and was part of the Anwar Sadat assasination?
With Huma's mother being an advocate of Sharia law its not out of the realm of possibility that she has the same beliefs.

In alot of ways Sharia law is worse than Naziism but it appears that many Liberals are just fine with this type of person being influencial in our goverment. Maybe they are fine with Sharia as well.

Personally I'm glad we have people with the guts to speak out against the current regime and applaud them for doing so.

God knows how many more Americans will die because of Liberal policies like the one where the FBI was afraid to investigate Major Hassan because of political correctness & the fear of being labeled a biggot even though there was plenty of evidence that he was a radical. Alot of good Americans died because of these damn fools in the Obama administration and to be fair useful repewbican idiots like John Mcain as well.
There blood is on your hands IMO.

It really hilarious that you guys only started this with the Muslims since Bush left office .Before that you were all like little doggies nibbling Bush beans. You must have been hypnotiized by scenes like these. How many times di Bush tell you all....I only kiss good muslims and "I don't worry about where Bin Laden is". Down boys or Buah is going to get out the rolled newspaper.

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It is about anti-Muslim sentiments. Abedin is attacked because Bachman claims "her family has ties to Muslim Brotherhood", note that's her family, not Abedin herself. That's like WWII, if your family is Japanese, off you go to the "internment" camp, doesn't matter what your history actually is or whether you're guilty of anything or not in Bachman's deluded mind.

If anyone was seriously concerned about foreign influence on the US government, look no further than Israel, but that's not the real concern here. If anyone want to get rid of religious influence on the US government, look to Christianity, but that's not the issue here. The issue is that Bachman is a bigot who thinks she can benefit from the anti-Muslin hysteria amongst her followings.

If an aide had family connections to the Ku Klux Klowns, folks would be calling for their immediate removal.

Here's the reality: if this dude has family in The Muslim Brotherhood, he has to go. The same would hold for anyone. This cat doesn't get a free pass because he's Muslim.
 
It really hilarious that you guys only started this with the Muslims since Bush left office .Before that you were all like little doggies nibbling Bush beans. You must have been hypnotiized by scenes like these.

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These dumbass photos again?

You do understand that in the ME, it's customary for men to hold hands while discussing business, or politics. Right?
 
If an aide had family connections to the Ku Klux Klowns, folks would be calling for their immediate removal.

Here's the reality: if this dude has family in The Muslim Brotherhood, he has to go. The same would hold for anyone. This cat doesn't get a free pass because he's Muslim.

which Muslim Brotherhood? each nation's party is different with a different agenda.

how close is the relative? is it a distant cousin he never sees or talks to?
 
How much Liberal ignorance can you possibly have in one thread, apparently alot.

So then if someone questions someones background which includes family members that belong to the Muslim Brotherhood & Sisterhood they are a biggot? Do you realize that Hamas is an offshoot of the brotherhood? Do you realize Ayman Zawahari (the current head of Al Qaida and 9-11 mastermind) was a member of the brotherhood in Egypt and was part of the Anwar Sadat assasination?
With Huma's mother being an advocate of Sharia law its not out of the realm of possibility that she has the same beliefs.

It's not outside the realm of possibility that Bachman is medically psychotic either, can we just put her in a ward base on the fact it's not "out of the realm of possibility"?


In alot of ways Sharia law is worse than Naziism but it appears that many Liberals are just fine with this type of person being influencial in our goverment. Maybe they are fine with Sharia as well.

Until you have shown that Sharia Law in anyway supersede the Law of the United State, you are just speaking nonsense.


Personally I'm glad we have people with the guts to speak out against the current regime and applaud them for doing so.

God knows how many more Americans will die because of Liberal policies like the one where the FBI was afraid to investigate Major Hassan because of political correctness & the fear of being labeled a biggot even though there was plenty of evidence that he was a radical. Alot of good Americans died because of these damn fools in the Obama administration and to be fair useful repewbican idiots like John Mcain as well.
There blood is on your hands IMO.

You should take that to the conspiracy theorist section. The FBI just successfully put a would-be Muslim terrorist in jail, they seem to be doing their job just fine.
 
which Muslim Brotherhood? each nation's party is different with a different agenda.

how close is the relative? is it a distant cousin he never sees or talks to?

Is there a Muslim Brotherhood that is pro-American? I'm thinking, uh...no.

The article also mentions the MB in Egypt and those goofballs sure as hell aren't a pro-American/pro-Israel outfit.
 
Is there a Muslim Brotherhood that is pro-American? I'm thinking, uh...no.

The article also mentions the MB in Egypt and those goofballs sure as hell aren't a pro-American/pro-Israel outfit.

you didn't answer my question.

which MB is it?

is the family member close...or distant?

we certainly can't fire someone for having a crazy distant uncle or cousin.


....unless of course the real goal is to keep the White House "Muslim-free".
 
It's not outside the realm of possibility that Bachman is medically psychotic either, can we just put her in a ward base on the fact it's not "out of the realm of possibility"?




Until you have shown that Sharia Law in anyway supersede the Law of the United State, you are just speaking nonsense.




You should take that to the conspiracy theorist section. The FBI just successfully put a would-be Muslim terrorist in jail, they seem to be doing their job just fine.

DO you have any evidence to back that up, or do you enjoy publically slandering and disrespecting a member of the United States Congress?
 
It's no more racial profiling than zinging a white person for having connections to a white supremacist group

depends, are you assuming the guy belongs to a white supremacist group because he's simply a white christian, or is there something that actually raises suspician?

Very important question here
 
For starters.

Article II, section one.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

In June, he issued orders concerning the deportation of Illegal Immigrants which are contrary to existing law as passed by Congress. This is a failure of his oath of office. Nor is he anywhere granted the power to alter, change or ammend existing laws passed by Congress or issue orders equivelent to law.

After the BP Disaster, he put a moritorium on drilling in the gulf, but did not do the same in California or Alaska.

Article 1, Section 9

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

By placing limits on the issuing of permits to only the Gulf Cost and not all offshore drilling, he favored one state over another.

Others to follow, right now, I am off to the gun show.

With such standards, every POTUS would be impeached every three months...... You expect perfection in an imperfect world. Its time for you to grow up.

Sorry, but NONE of those things are even remotely constitutional encroachments. One of the main jobs of any chief executive (POTUS or corporate CEO) is to deploy the limited resources in the manner he best sees fit to achieve the objectives of the organization. If the POTUS had unlimited resources, he could do a whole lot more than he can when people want to limit government. There are lots of laws on the books, they can not all be enforced, nor do you really want them to be... Presidents, governors, mayors, sheriffs, police chiefs, presidents of homeowners associations all pick their battles. It is the very nature of their jobs to make these decisions.
 
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It is about anti-Muslim sentiments. Abedin is attacked because Bachman claims "her family has ties to Muslim Brotherhood", note that's her family, not Abedin herself. That's like WWII, if your family is Japanese, off you go to the "internment" camp, doesn't matter what your history actually is or whether you're guilty of anything or not in Bachman's deluded mind.

so her family does have ties to the muslim brotherhood?
 
you didn't answer my question.

which MB is it?

Please, explain the difference. Thanks.

is the family member close...or distant?

we certainly can't fire someone for having a crazy distant uncle or cousin.


....unless of course the real goal is to keep the White House "Muslim-free".

Father, mother and a brother.
 
With such standards, every POTUS would be impeached every three months...... You expect perfection in an imperfect world. Its time for you to grow up.

Sorry, but NONE of those things are even remotely constitutional encroachments. One of the main jobs of any chief executive (POTUS or corporate CEO) is to deploy the limited resources in the manner he best sees fit to achieve the objectives of the organization. If the POTUS had unlimited resources, he could do a whole lot more than he can when people want to limit government. There are lots of laws on the books, they can not all be enforced, nor do you really want them to be... Presidents, governors, mayors, sheriffs, police chiefs, presidents of homeowners associations all pick their battles. It is the very nature of their jobs to make these decisions.

Do you know what a security clearance is?
 
There's nothing wrong with questioning an aide's security clearance. Especially an aide to the SECSTATE. This is a sensitive post and there is no room for thin skin, nor political correct hyperventilating and no one should be above question.

There's something wrong when she's a target because of her religion. If all they care about is "foreign influence", a lot of people with ties to the IRA and Israel would have to be questioned and investigated everyday.
 
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