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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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TurtleDude said:
which is why he should be in the general prison population. even the worst robber, hit man, narcotics trafficker, ponzi scheme Bernie Madoff wannabe is going to be disgusted with some coward that shoots little kids and unarmed people for fun.

His punishment will be far far worse than anything an executioner could legally do to him
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No. We aren't like him...and we can do better. Have to do better.

He may well be a coward too, but if the report from the just-released inmate is correct, he really is non compos mentis.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The olympics would disagree with you. ;-)
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Sharp shooting is a handy talent to have if you're a sniper. However, the olymic shooting events such as the pentathalon were meant to simulate soldiers on the battle field and doesn't diminish the fact the gun was designed for one purpose and that is to kill, kill, kill.
 
TurtleDude said:
active shooters are always cowards. If someone had wounded him-the odds are 15-1 he would have blown his brains out
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15 to 1 eh? S owhat gives that impression? I thnk that if this goon had the granolas to blow his brains out, he would'a done it when he fired his last shot into the crowd. I mean; knowing what was coming.
 
Moot said:
Sharp shooting is a handy talent to have if you're a sniper. However, the olymic shooting events such as the pentathalon were meant to simulate soldiers on the battle field and doesn't diminish the fact the gun was designed for one purpose and that is to kill, kill, kill.
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I was a world class ISU skeet shooter ISU skeet was designed to train us to shoot down martian flying saucers

ISU Double trap was designed to teach us how to deal with 2 saucers

I guess you think the only purpose of a knife is to kill as well


Why should anyone take your posts seriously when you post such oozing emotobabbling drivel?
 
jet57 said:
15 to 1 eh? S owhat gives that impression? I thnk that if this goon had the granolas to blow his brains out, he would'a done it when he fired his last shot into the crowd. I mean; knowing what was coming.
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who knows-maybe the cops should hook him up to a car battery and get the answers we'd all like to see?
 
haymarket said:
By all means do present your verifiable case for America always being fascinated with guns. And put heavy emphasis on the FASCINATED part. This I want to to see.

Maybe you can help make my case for me? ;):roll:
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The United States was borne of guns, the west was settled through the use of guns, the agrarian South depended on guns. Like it or not guns made the United States possible; guns forced the reunification of the Southern States; it's always been guns.

I grew up with guns. I have early memories of going squirrel hunting with my father and grandfather. My friends were no different. I never much thought about it. I don't recall anyone locking up gun racks - we didn't know anyone with gun safes.

The United States has been at war, almost constantly. We are a culture of people who have readily taken up guns. Good? Bad? Just the way it is. But, if you have learned to enjoy shooting and enjoy guns why would you not be fascinated with them. I have a few guns that, as far as self defense, aren't much better than a BFR, but I keep them and clean them and shoot them from time to time.
 
TurtleDude said:
who knows-maybe the cops should hook him up to a car battery and get the answers we'd all like to see?
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(chuckle) Yeah. Buuut I think the general population will work it out for him. That's why I don't like the death penalty: it doesn't solve anything and it kind of rips people off: like the surviving families. The general population keeps guys like that alive, until they get tired of him. Then the book making starts.

You put this idiot in the general population and he'll talk: he'll go to great lengths to tell you aaaallll about it.
 
Harshaw said:
No one claimed someone couldn't be killed by it.
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They claimed it was designed to wound. If it was designed to wound it would not do THAT to a human leg. Had that guy been hit anywhere in the torso he'd be dead.
 
If he's detached from reality, all you'd hear is the ravings of someone terribly disturbed.
 
jet57 said:
(chuckle) Yeah. Buuut I think the general population will work it out for him. That's why I don't like the death penalty: it doesn't solve anything and it kind of rips people off: like the surviving families. The general population keeps guys like that alive, until they get tired of him. Then the book making starts.

You put this idiot in the general population and he'll talk: he'll go to great lengths to tell you aaaallll about it.
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sort of like that song from the Bob and Tom show

PRISONER OF LOVE!!
 
Moot said:
Sharp shooting is a handy talent to have if you're a sniper. However, the olymic shooting events such as the pentathalon were meant to simulate soldiers on the battle field and doesn't diminish the fact the gun was designed for one purpose and that is to kill, kill, kill.
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Did you know that is what Drew Brees calls out at the line of scrimmage if he sees something he doesn't like in the defense and wants to change the play?

Ok off topic but ****, its July, I'm ready for some damn football.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
The United States was borne of guns, the west was settled through the use of guns, the agrarian South depended on guns. Like it or not guns made the United States possible; guns forced the reunification of the Southern States; it's always been guns.

I grew up with guns. I have early memories of going squirrel hunting with my father and grandfather. My friends were no different. I never much thought about it. I don't recall anyone locking up gun racks - we didn't know anyone with gun safes.

The United States has been at war, almost constantly. We are a culture of people who have readily taken up guns. Good? Bad? Just the way it is. But, if you have learned to enjoy shooting and enjoy guns why would you not be fascinated with them. I have a few guns that, as far as self defense, aren't much better than a BFR, but I keep them and clean them and shoot them from time to time.
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I think that your argument is silly: we're not a gun culture perse'. We never have been. We were born out of age when there was lots of room and no cops. Not many poeple carried or even owned guns in urban American, then or now. A "gun culture" of sorts was born out of old west tales and John wayne. The right-wing has pushed an agenda that the II Amendment is somehow under some sort of threat, which is just nonsenes. If we spent more time taking care of our lawns and neighborhoods, and just started using common sense, all this "gun stuff" would just go away.
 
non compos mentis
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Oh, no! Not with the Latin. I had 3 years of Latin I. I hate that ****. I was planning on being a brain surgeon, but I found out we had to take Latin. :(

Now I have to go look it up - "non compos mantis"
 
TurtleDude said:
sort of like that song from the Bob and Tom show

PRISONER OF LOVE!!
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That's why terrorists, in my view, should be tried and convicted here instead of some secret military tribunal. Even convicts wanna fight for their country. You want answers . . . .?

Adendum: can you just imagine what would've happend if Bin Laden had been captured and thrown into Pelican Bay; or Leavenworth . . . He'd talk.
 
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Sig said:
You have no case. This is the point.
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You have an unsupported opinion. I can see why Turtle gave it a like.

I have no case about what exactly? It seems you are engaged in deflection of your own inabilities.

You were the one who made the allegation about the history of America and its everlasting fascination with guns. And now you are impotent to present any verifiable evidence for it.
 
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haymarket said:
You have an unsupported opinion. I can see why Turtle gave it a like.

I have no case about what exactly?
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Actually, if Turtle supports it, then, by definition, that would make it a supported opinion.


BTW: It is you who are presenting an unsupported opinion with this ridiculous rebuttal.

Next time, come back with an actual argument or don't come back at all.
 
Risky Thicket said:
The United States was borne of guns, the west was settled through the use of guns, the agrarian South depended on guns. Like it or not guns made the United States possible; guns forced the reunification of the Southern States; it's always been guns.

I grew up with guns. I have early memories of going squirrel hunting with my father and grandfather. My friends were no different. I never much thought about it. I don't recall anyone locking up gun racks - we didn't know anyone with gun safes.

The United States has been at war, almost constantly. We are a culture of people who have readily taken up guns. Good? Bad? Just the way it is. But, if you have learned to enjoy shooting and enjoy guns why would you not be fascinated with them. I have a few guns that, as far as self defense, aren't much better than a BFR, but I keep them and clean them and shoot them from time to time.
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You have made my point for me that America is steeped in the gun culture. Thank you.

But having taken a step in that direction I see absolutely NOTHING in there about any proof of the charge of FASCINATION. Why is that missing?
 
Sig said:
Actually, if Turtle supports it, then, by definition, that would make it a supported opinion.


BTW: It is you who are presenting an unsupported opinion with this ridiculous rebuttal.

Next time, come back with an actual argument or don't come back at all.
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No. You confuse LIKE with SUPPORT. They are two different things. Perhaps a good dictionary may help you gain this knowledge of the difference? But then of course you would have to apply yourself to the mastery of the two different concepts.

Turtle liked it because it reminded him of his own mile high stack of unsupported pompous pontifications. He was simply recognizing a fellow worshipper before the same altar chanting the same mantra.

Again, you charged that America had been fascinated with guns from its inception and we have seen nothing from you documenting that. Your impotence to do so shows your rather limited debate skills. There are books which can help with that also.
 
haymarket said:
Again, you charged that America had been fascinated with guns from its inception and we have seen nothing from you documenting that. Your impotence to do so shows your rather limited debate skills. There are books which can help with that also.
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Obviously, you are a cerebral eunuch in this area. Why do you bother to post about a subject which you know nothing about?

For starters:

Gun culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
haymarket said:
No. You confuse LIKE with SUPPORT. They are two different things. Perhaps a good dictionary may help you gain this knowledge of the difference? But then of course you would have to apply yourself to the mastery of the two different concepts.

Turtle liked it because it reminded him of his own mile high stack of unsupported pompous pontifications. He was simply recognizing a fellow worshipper before the same altar chanting the same mantra.

Again, you charged that America had been fascinated with guns from its inception and we have seen nothing from you documenting that. Your impotence to do so shows your rather limited debate skills. There are books which can help with that also.
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why do you pretend you have any clue why I did something.

when it comes to guns Haymarket-your posts tend to suffer from a paucity of rational arguments and tend to rely on psychobabble.

You sort of lost all credibility when you wanted to erect a monument to the second amendment using people who had been killed or maimed by CRIMINALS.


it was as stupid as having a monument to the 14th Amendment and picturing whites killed by black criminals
 
jet57 said:
I think that your argument is silly: we're not a gun culture perse'. We never have been. We were born out of age when there was lots of room and no cops. Not many poeple carried or even owned guns in urban American, then or now. A "gun culture" of sorts was born out of old west tales and John wayne. The right-wing has pushed an agenda that the II Amendment is somehow under some sort of threat, which is just nonsenes. If we spent more time taking care of our lawns and neighborhoods, and just started using common sense, all this "gun stuff" would just go away.
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Old west tales? I can take you to a few old saloons here in Arizona and show you bullet holes in the ceiling. I'm thinking you haven't read a great deal about the old west.

Growing up in Georgia I carried snake loads in the summer to keep the cotton mouths and such from coming up from the creek toward the house.

Ever have a favorite saw or drill or hammer? Most of us have and do. In fact, you likely know the difference between a framing hammer and a tack hammer and why you need several different kinds of hammers, if you like to do manual labor on your house and land. I swear some framing hammers are better than others. I have my favorite. I even have a brass framed folding yard stick. I don't know how old that thing is. I marvel at it from time to time when I rediscover it in a drawer on my work bench. You don't see craftsmanship like that these days. They are all tools.

Guns are tools and have been tools in America since whenever they brought guns over. I can recall when I was finally given permission by my father to shoot a .308. It was a big thrill. It was a huge thrill the first time I fam fired a .50 cal. I called home that night and told my dad I had fired a .50! Later, I qualified with a .50 cal. It was a moment I remember, not to mention being a hell of a lot of fun. It was another tool I had learned to use.

In many ways, in the US, learning to shoot has been a right of passage for young men. If it wasn't within your experience I am truly sorry you missed it.
 
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