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Gun attack at Batman film premiere in Denver [W:120]

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Phys251 said:
Hasn't it been speculated that the Aurora movie shooter had to go back to his car to reload?
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I haven't heard anything about that, I think he was in a static position so he had the ammo. It wouldn't make sense to me that people would stick around for his reload, but then again panic is a funny thing.
 
Furiounova said:
A rifle can take out a cobra pilot or a tank? You have never been in combat.
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it sure can kill a pilot when he isn't in his vehicle. It will kill politicians who order tanks to attack American citizens.

do you know how many helicopter crewmen were killed in the Nam by guys with AK rifles?
 
TurtleDude said:
generally because that facade of a reason is used to justify making it harder for honest and good people to get firearms because the people you mentioned are already banned from possessing any guns
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I have never suggested making it hard for honest and good people to buy guns.

However if you will recall the shooter at Virginia Tech was stopped and questioned by the police before he bought the guns to kill people with.

I am however asking that if a person is questionable then he can wait to buy his guns until a background comes back.

After all do you know what it takes to get a drivers licence that's not counting tags and regestration?

You don't just walk into the Sec of State and lay your money down.:peace
 
Furiounova said:
For the last time. I am talking about why guns were invented. Do you really want to claim the evolution of the gun had people saying:

"Hey, let's use gunpowder to fire a projectile."

"Great idea!!"

This is why gunners get laughed at because they refuse to employ basic intellectual honesty.
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And for the last time you are wrong. You don't want to admit it, and you want to engage in little games, but you are wrong nonetheless.
 
Goshin said:
It is time for me and my son to go see the new Batman movie.


I'll post later and let you know we made it back alive and well. :lamo


(pardon my sense of gallows humor, the media is just in such a frenzy of stupidity that it strikes me as a bit laughable.)
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Good for you. :) Really. The best way people can show that an act of evil does not affect their way of life is to get out there and do that thing.
 
Furiounova said:
I'm not talking about different types of guns. I'm talking about guns. They were designed with one purpose: to kill. Would it help if I said they were invented to kill?
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until you actually demonstrate you have a clue about guns, I am going to point out the ignorance of your posts

what were Anschutz 54 Rifles designed to do

Perazzi Mirage Shotguns

Winchester 22 Rifles

Rock River National Match AR 15s

Krieghoff K-80 ISU skeet shotguns

the Beretta DT-10

the Smith and Wesson Model 41 Pistol
 
Phys251 said:
Good for you. :) Really. The best way people can show that an act of evil does not affect their way of life is to get out there and do that thing.
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I just don't see a copycat here, this was a random and sick act by a subhuman victimizer.
 
Furiounova said:
I just realized you are the one who said a semi-auto rifle could take out a cobra pilot....or a tank. Forgive me for not caring about your assessment.
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You don't read very well-you have posted over 1000 times in less than a month

Hint-quality is far better than quantity. I said those rifles can kill people who pilot those vehicles.

You were in the Special Forces?
 
TurtleDude said:
until you actually demonstrate you have a clue about guns, I am going to point out the ignorance of your posts

what were Anschutz 54 Rifles designed to do

Perazzi Mirage Shotguns

Winchester 22 Rifles

Rock River National Match AR 15s

Krieghoff K-80 ISU skeet shotguns

the Beretta DT-10

the Smith and Wesson Model 41 Pistol
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I never did get an answer from him about which semi-auto he was referring to when trying to take out a Cobra pilot. A handgun, probably not, a rifle, possibly, a shotgun, improbable.
 
LaMidRighter said:
I just don't see a copycat here, this was a random and sick act by a subhuman victimizer.
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No--I mean, some people are probably not going to go see The Dark Knight Rises simply because of this shooting incident. My point is, what better way to thumb one's nose at the killer than to go to a theater and watch that movie.
 
Crosscheck said:
He was dressed up like Rambo and did a fair impersonation of a tough guy when shooting sitting ducks. But when facing policemen who were equally armed he suddently realized he just had grapenuts in his underwear. Yes, he ******d out for that final fight.

All that battlewear is useless if you are nothing but a coward.
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having actually studied "Active shooters" professionally, in almost every case, the active shooter gives up or kills himself when confronted with potentially lethal force
 
jet57 said:
No; obvious mature argument that you can't match.
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remind me of the mature posts you have made on this thread. I asked what other steps he wanted
 
LaMidRighter said:
I never did get an answer from him about which semi-auto he was referring to when trying to take out a Cobra pilot. A handgun, probably not, a rifle, possibly, a shotgun, improbable.
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a rifle. it was claimed a semi automatic rifle could take out a cobra pilot. Yes it is "possible" just like it is possible Scarlet Johanson will knock on my door and ask for help with trying on new bras.
 
Phys251 said:
No--I mean, some people are probably not going to go see The Dark Knight Rises simply because of this shooting incident. My point is, what better way to thumb one's nose at the killer than to go to a theater and watch that movie.
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I could see that point. Most of my friends who wanted to go are still going, of course I think everyone is in the corner of the victims families and those who survived but were injured. I just don't think there's a huge reason to believe this happens again.
 
TurtleDude said:
did I limit my comment to cobra pilots?
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You specifically said COBRA pilots and now that you got called out on such a ridiculous claim you want to move the goal posts.
 
TurtleDude said:
how about explaining that. cops are not usually around when people get victimized. If some lady is walking down the street and there is a cop standing on the corner-chances Joe Q Rapist isn''t going to rip her skirt off in front of the constabulary.
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I'll be glad to explain, and shock of shocks, you'll probbaly agree. Cops on a beat, like any mobster or otherwise tough person can develope a reputation: one that is frightening to those that think about crossing them. When a mobster takes over neighborhood, nothing goes in or out adn no crimes are committed; by and large, unless it goes through the mob. Same thing for tough cops. Cops in this country have been neutered by the politically correct and racially charged ambulance chasers to the point that municipalities are afraid of being sued and local politicians are afraid of loosing votes. So, it's not about keep the public safe anymore, it's about people keeping their jobs and changing neighborhoods into "communities". That was the first clue: the word "neighborhhod" suddenly sounded too black.

So, if cops can just be cops for a while, watch what happens to stupid neighborhood thuggery.
 
Furiounova said:
a rifle. it was claimed a semi automatic rifle could take out a cobra pilot. Yes it is "possible" just like it is possible Scarlet Johanson will knock on my door and ask for help with trying on new bras.
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You don't understand the subject then. First off, you said "semi-auto" which could be any type of firearm, second, most modern bullets are hypersonic while all helicopters are on the low side of sub-sonic. The reason Cobras are dangerous is that they end up in warzones, with known threats and locations, and the less accurate full auto fire. A shooter who is hidden could take out a Cobra pilot at low altitude or when they land. Don't kid yourself.
 
Furiounova said:
You specifically said COBRA pilots and now that you got called out on such a ridiculous claim you want to move the goal posts.
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so Cobra pilots are immune to bullets

gotcha
 
Moot said:
Yes, he was wearing body armor, so why did he give up so easy when the cops arrived?

The way he was armed along with the body armor kinda reminds me of these guys except he wasn't robbing a bank and he didn't have any priors....

North Hollywood shootout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think SBC is still a possibility.
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From what I understand the plan was to be caught all along, having to do with the Joker scene from the second movie. This is according to reports on the matter so that is obviously up for debate.
 
Harshaw said:
Nope. As I said above, assault rifles -- the M-16 and similar -- were designed specifically to wound.
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Can you back up that claim with a link? Otherwise I'm going to have to throw the BS flag.
 
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